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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Random thought. I seen it on another post but didn't wanna make the thread go off course. Would a shadow roll help a super ratey horse get around the barrel? I have the problem of pushing my mare past the barrel before she is setting for the turn. I was just thinking this might help for a bit till she gets the idea to go past the barrel a little further. Hmmmm... |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | It does help sometimes. It gets them deeper in the pocket before they see it. I tried it on one that got mad, refused to move over for the 2nd, and ran straight over the top of it. But others it made the difference between being in the money or not. My high school rodeo horse ran in one and my gelding I have now was trained in one and I've recently gone back to it (and ran clean 2 out of 2 so far). |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Thanks. I was wondering. We are having problems moving over for 2nd. She's just wanting to find that barrel and turn, problem is that she isn't setting up enough for it and gives ZERO pocket. Make sense? I think I will try it and see what happens. Thanks again  |
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Location: Texas | We used a shadow roll on one horse that was high headed/face in the air. It made him carry his head lower & face a bit more vertical. If anything I would say he rated better because he watched the barrels better. |
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| We have a mare that is very ratey and very sensitieve to your seat....We tried everything to taking her back slow and teaching her to pick up her shoulders and move over but when she got into the arena all that was gone. We just brought her back after a 2 year rest and tried covering her right eye as she is a lefty and it is the right turns that get her....when she crashed those barrel just like she knew that they were there but couldn't see them we had to change riding style....As she is very ratey, anticipates the turn and listens to the riders seat, with that eye covered....we use blinkers with a full covered cup....we know now that is it all rider and it has been easier to push her past when she can't see the barrel and anticipate the turn....It has been working well and we hope that in the future we can take it off completely but since she is very sensitive about your seat it may be a while....Anyways we have been clocking clean runs and it has been working for us. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | LittleFilly - 2014-07-17 10:17 AM
We have a mare that is very ratey and very sensitieve to your seat....We tried everything to taking her back slow and teaching her to pick up her shoulders and move over but when she got into the arena all that was gone. We just brought her back after a 2 year rest and tried covering her right eye as she is a lefty and it is the right turns that get her....when she crashed those barrel just like she knew that they were there but couldn't see them we had to change riding style....As she is very ratey, anticipates the turn and listens to the riders seat, with that eye covered....we use blinkers with a full covered cup....we know now that is it all rider and it has been easier to push her past when she can't see the barrel and anticipate the turn....It has been working well and we hope that in the future we can take it off completely but since she is very sensitive about your seat it may be a while....Anyways we have been clocking clean runs and it has been working for us.
My horse has been having a vision problem running indoors. The shadow roll got us around the barrels but he still did the set up/drop head/act like he's not sure where the barrel is deal--he just did it beside the barrel rather than in from of it. LOL One suggestion was to run him with a full cup on his left eye when we're inside and I'm also going to start running left. One way or another I am going to get him figured out...I'm not a fan of gimmicks but sometimes it's necessary to think outside the box. |
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| dan and vicky gav me great advice on my jetta mare and when i did it it worked rode 1 handed and drove her up into to bit
when i would forget and ride 2 and then go 1 i would let her drop off bit back off bit
when i did it their way i got a check when i forgot i got barrels course now i watch everyone else BUMMER
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | The shadow roll makes them want to reach out more. I suggest.in getting the thick one. Now that they run a little harder getting to move over for the pocket just got more difficult.you will have make your horse softer in moving off you (leg) more. |
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Location: WI | Anyone else used a shadow roll? Why and what were the results? Thinking of trying one, I have a horse that will not focus at certain types of events and wondering if this would help. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | linds - 2015-01-05 4:52 PM Anyone else used a shadow roll? Why and what were the results? Thinking of trying one, I have a horse that will not focus at certain types of events and wondering if this would help.
It might help if your horse is lookng at shadows and tractor tracks and such on the ground. Not so much with lookng around--blinkers might help with that, but they usually season out of it.
btw, update on my horse: We made clean runs the rest of the season after hitting barrels nearly every run before putting the shadow roll on him, but his vision problem came back the last couple of runs we made and he was shying at the barrels on the left side, even outdoors. Flushed his gutteral pouch and he seems better, he's not spooking anymore at home, but I haven't been anywhere. |
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