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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | This is the 3rd time my mares been bred. Twice this year and once last year. She looses them every time. She's only 13. Should I give up on her and try a different mare or it was suggested by the vet for me to give her regimate as soon as I knew she was bred but it's $280 for a bottle and it will take 3 bottles so I don't think I can afford it. Opinion please. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | If you feel you can't afford the meds then my suggestion is to give her another job... there are so many foals of good breeding that you could put that $280+ for a yearling. Not every mare can be a productive as a broodmare. So sorry that she can't go the 11 months. I have a gray mare that was bred in 2011, but aborted at 3 months it was a foal I really wanted- I waited till 2012 rebred to a different stud and she foaled in May with a tobiano colt. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Aqhaczy - 2014-07-16 8:40 PM
If you feel you can't afford the meds then my suggestion is to give her another job... there are so many foals of good breeding that you could put that $280+ for a yearling. Not every mare can be a productive as a broodmare. So sorry that she can't go the 11 months. I have a gray mare that was bred in 2011, but aborted at 3 months it was a foal I really wanted- I waited till 2012 rebred to a different stud and she foaled in May with a tobiano colt.
All 3 times we bred her to a different stud. She's either got to be a pasture ornament or a brood mare. Shes a daughter of Haidias Little Pep and was a very successful Penner with my uncle but she got hurt about 5 or 6 years ago and isn't fixable. He tried to fix her but nothing worked so he gave her to me to use as a brood mare.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | So very sorry. You might try at least once again with the regumate. |
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Location: Oklahoma | If I were to breed her again, I'd defiitely put her on Regumate. When does she sluff?
Start Regumate 6 days post OV ... and check progesterone levels at 14 days .... if not high enough, pull again at 45 days ... If low - Id keep her on thru 120 days.
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Location: The edge of no where | TessBelle - 2014-07-16 8:30 PM This is the 3rd time my mares been bred. Twice this year and once last year. She looses them every time. She's only 13. Should I give up on her and try a different mare or it was suggested by the vet for me to give her regimate as soon as I knew she was bred but it's $280 for a bottle and it will take 3 bottles so I don't think I can afford it. Opinion please.
This is going to sound harsh....BUT raising babies is expensive. If you can't afford $900 for the regumate, then don't mess with trying to raise one. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | MS2011 - 2014-07-17 8:02 AM
TessBelle - 2014-07-16 8:30 PM This is the 3rd time my mares been bred. Twice this year and once last year. She looses them every time. She's only 13. Should I give up on her and try a different mare or it was suggested by the vet for me to give her regimate as soon as I knew she was bred but it's $280 for a bottle and it will take 3 bottles so I don't think I can afford it. Opinion please.
This is going to sound harsh....BUT raising babies is expensive. If you can't afford $900 for the regumate, then don't mess with trying to raise one.
This is the first baby I would be raised. But since I've already got $2,000 in a baby I don't have I'm thinking seriously about not putting any more into it. |
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| Have you had her ultrasounded? Have you had her cultured? If you haven't this is where I would start.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Murphy - 2014-07-17 6:52 AM
Can you trail ride her?
No. She's just barely pasture sound. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-17 10:17 AM
Have you had her ultrasounded? Have you had her cultured? If you haven't this is where I would start.
I had her ultrasounds but not a culture. I asked about a culture but the vet didn't think she needed it. I'm not going to breed her agin this year. I takes to the stud owner and she's gonna let me try agin next year but I don't know if I will try her one more time or see if I can find a different mare. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | If She is "barely pasture sound"...does that mean she could be in some degree of chronic pain? Remember that carrying a foal means carrying added weight. That added strain could make things worse. Remember too that chronic pain can cause other health problems. (Not to say that would be why she keeps slipping foals...but something to consider if she already has stress on her body from pain/discomfort).
Not every mare that is unsound for riding will be sound enough to breed. Maybe since she served her past owner well as a competition horse...maybe retirement has been earned. Just a real shame it happened so early in her career.
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Did you put her on any prenatals? I'm not sure if they make horse prenatals but I don't see why they wouldn't. Also I read early that she is barely pasture sound. Not knowing the injury or anything, but will carrying the extra weight be healthy and good for her to do? |
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Location: Florida.. | No.. 3 times is enough for her. but I always think of the mare and not how much $$ i put into it or what i will get out of it.. Id let her be a pasture ornament.. imho. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2014-07-17 10:50 AM No.. 3 times is enough for her. but I always think of the mare and not how much $$ i put into it or what i will get out of it.. Id let her be a pasture ornament.. imho.
I agree let her just be a pasture ornament or be a companion for another horse, sounds like she's not breeding sound. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | My vet had me use alternogest for the first 120 days (I think) and my mare didn't slip her colt. It's not quite as expensive as regumate.
We also gave another shot every 3 months after finishing the atrenogest but I can't remember the name of it.
ETA: I just seen you said she's barely pasture sounds so why breed her, wouldn't it cause her more pain and unsoundness to carry a colt and then raise it?
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Location: Bastrop, TX | Not only does she need to be somewhat sound to carry that baby, but she sure needs to be sound enough to chase after and protect the little rascal once it hits the ground.
I've gone the Regumate route twice, works, expensive but was worth it in the long run. From the sounds of your mare, I would not breed her anymore. If you really had money to blow you could have her bred, flushed and the embryo put in a serogate mare.....not all of us are fortunate enough to afford that route.
Good luck with her. I would still have a uterine culture done, and ultrasound the uterous. My guess is she has cysts in the uterus. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I would either let her be a pasture pet or send her down the road. I am NOT one to have to give drugs of ANY sort to a mare for her to hold a pregnancy. If they won't do it the "way nature intended", they are NOT going to be a broodmare for ME.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I questioned the vet when she said we could breed her but kept saying she would be fine to breed. I'm kinda like the last poster said. It's not natural to have to give them something to keep them from loosing it. But if people do it with no side effects to mom or baby then maybe it would be worth it. I'm just gonna see how everything is when it's time to try agin next year. |
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| I have a 20 year old mare I bought last year just for breeding. I cultured her when I bought her she had to be treated. Bred with fresh semen first cycle and didn't get in foal. Short cycled her, then bred her the second time and she got in foal. However, she was put on a compounded progesterone from the start on the second breeding. She stayed on it 120 days for insurance and had a nice foal this spring. I rebred her with shipped semen this year, did the same protocol with the progesterone. Had her checked at 45 days and she was open :(
Since you haven't tried the progesterone or a culture, then I would try that next year as a last ditch effort. And make sure you are using a superior equine repro vet. It makes a huge difference when you work with a repro specialist!
Good luck to you!!
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