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| Just wondering what people do for their bleeders without giving Lasix. I give a supplement high in vitamin C and has Rutin and Hesperidin complex as well. I also give a supplement to open airways like a breath aid as well. Seems to work....wondering what others do.... |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | Our bleeder is on Special Arubic Powder, which I buy from a compounding pharmacy in AR , and K&C Plus by Cox Labs. He has been on this combo for 5+ years and never bled through. |
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| I recently put my daughters good mare on Oxy2 and bleeder stop - I stopped using the Lasix and she seems to be doing well on these supplements. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.  |
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| Kaycee - 2014-07-21 7:30 PM How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.
I did, still bleeding internally so we run on lasix. Supplements did not work for me. |
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Location: Florida | rodeomom3 - 2014-07-21 8:57 PM Kaycee - 2014-07-21 7:30 PM How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.
Same here, I have tried every "product" and herbal and actually scoped, horse was already showing signs. Not worth the risk, I wont run him with out lasix. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | bigbob - 2014-07-21 9:10 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-07-21 8:57 PM Kaycee - 2014-07-21 7:30 PM How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.
Yeah I would worry about the same thing. I did talk to a friend that runs on Lasix plus a supplement.
Oh well, just one more thing to add to my diva's care! She's worth it...I think..... |
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| The supplements made mine bleed worse :/ |
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| You might try Shepard's Purse. |
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| Thanks for everyone's responses....what is Shepards's purse? Never heard of it... |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | rodeomom3 - 2014-07-20 8:57 PM Kaycee - 2014-07-21 7:30 PM How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.
When did you scoped after you ran..........right after..........week........ |
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Location: Central Texas | I used Silver Lining Herbs product called NoLasix. I kept my horse on it for 3 months. He ran a full weekend without any visible bleeding, and ran 3 consistent runs (even won an average saddle). He had been making a good run on day one, and then getting slower and slower on the next two days. I did try Lasix (3ml's 2-3 hours before I ran), and he did not run at all! His times that weekend were over a second slower than normal in that pen.
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| CJE - 2014-07-22 10:38 AM rodeomom3 - 2014-07-20 8:57 PM Kaycee - 2014-07-21 7:30 PM How do y'all know that your horses aren't still bleeding on these supplements? I just had my mare bleed this weekend for the first time and in 30 days she will run on Lasix but I have been looking into other supplements. Just curious if anyone has had their horses scoped after a run with no lasix? Interesting subject.
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Location: Sperry, OK | txcajuncowgirl - 2014-07-22 10:46 AM I used Silver Lining Herbs product called NoLasix. I kept my horse on it for 3 months. He ran a full weekend without any visible bleeding, and ran 3 consistent runs (even won an average saddle). He had been making a good run on day one, and then getting slower and slower on the next two days. I did try Lasix (3ml's 2-3 hours before I ran), and he did not run at all! His times that weekend were over a second slower than normal in that pen.
Good Luck!
You may need to give more Lasix.. I have a friend that has to give 8cc's. |
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Location: Central Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-22 11:22 AM txcajuncowgirl - 2014-07-22 10:46 AM I used Silver Lining Herbs product called NoLasix. I kept my horse on it for 3 months. He ran a full weekend without any visible bleeding, and ran 3 consistent runs (even won an average saddle). He had been making a good run on day one, and then getting slower and slower on the next two days. I did try Lasix (3ml's 2-3 hours before I ran), and he did not run at all! His times that weekend were over a second slower than normal in that pen.
Good Luck! You may need to give more Lasix.. I have a friend that has to give 8cc's.
How will giving him more Lasix help when he would not run with a small amount? Medically that makes no sense.
I withheld the Lasix on the third day of the show that weekend and he ran closer to his normal time. |
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Location: South East Kansas | Does any one give Lasix pills? If you do, how much time before you run do you give them?
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Location: Arkansas | 8cc is a lot. I have a friend who's horse will bleed without it. Her perfect number is 1/2cc. She gave 3 and the mare loped. Crazy that small of an amount makes a difference
I used a product called choice of champions lung aid and never bleed through. Its like $40 a month too. |
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| when some of you say bleed through, do you mean to where you can actually see it? I always thought if you can see the blood, it meant it was a bad deal, bad bleed. And just b/c you don't see it doesn't mean they don't bleed.....am I wrong?? anyone ever tried anything from THE for bleeders? |
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Location: Sperry, OK | txcajuncowgirl - 2014-07-22 11:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-22 11:22 AM txcajuncowgirl - 2014-07-22 10:46 AM I used Silver Lining Herbs product called NoLasix. I kept my horse on it for 3 months. He ran a full weekend without any visible bleeding, and ran 3 consistent runs (even won an average saddle). He had been making a good run on day one, and then getting slower and slower on the next two days. I did try Lasix (3ml's 2-3 hours before I ran), and he did not run at all! His times that weekend were over a second slower than normal in that pen.
Good Luck! You may need to give more Lasix.. I have a friend that has to give 8cc's.
I withheld the Lasix on the third day of the show that weekend and he ran closer to his normal time.
he very well could be bleeding through it, so it didn't help him and he couldn't run. If you up the dose, he might do better. Maybe he just didn't bleed the third day? Most people I know give at least 5cc's (obviously there will be some that can give less). |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Kathryn Hawkins - 2014-07-22 2:11 PM 8cc is a lot. I have a friend who's horse will bleed without it. Her perfect number is 1/2cc. She gave 3 and the mare loped. Crazy that small of an amount makes a difference I used a product called choice of champions lung aid and never bleed through. Its like $40 a month too.
I realize it's a lot, but he bleeds through 7cc. |
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