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cruise
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-07-22 10:19 AM
Subject: OT - Obamacare



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Just sayin' - interesting

 http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/22/politics/obamacare-subsidy-ruling/index.html
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-07-22 12:40 PM
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I saw that on FOX this morning.  Appears this could be a major monkey in the Obamacare wrench.  Barack is going on a three-day fundraiser.  Doubt this will be much of a concern to him just as the immigrants flooding the border isn't.
Two more years of this..............





 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-22 12:44 PM
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My daugher just sent me that link.  Another example of many of what a mess O care is.  A poorly written law. 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-22 12:58 PM
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Just once I would love to hear someone present a logical defense of ObamaCare. Keep in mind that, from it's inception, ObamaCare was designed to be merely a stepping stone to a full blown socialized healthcare system. The guy gets away with looking every American straight in the eye and lying to their face.....no consequences whatsoever. Let's hear one of our progressive BBs defend this....not deflect, but actually defend the blatant lies.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-22 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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White House To Ignore Court Ruling, Keep Handing Out Obamacare Subsidies
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The Obama administration will continue handing out Obamacare subsidies to federal exchange customers despite a federal court’s ruling Tuesday that the subsidies are illegal.
A D.C. Court of Appeals panel ruled Tuesday morning that customers in the 36 states that didn’t establish their own exchange and use HealthCare.gov instead cannot be given premium tax credits, according to the text of the Affordable Care Act itself. (RELATED: Federal Court Takes Down Obamacare: Subsidies In Federal Exchange Are Illegal)
But the White House said in response that it will continue handing out the billions of taxpayer dollars in subsidies. White House press secretary Josh Earnest said that while the case continues to be battled out in the courts, the administration will continue to dole out billions in tax credits to federally-run exchange customers.
“It’s important for people all across the country to understand that this ruling does not have any practical impact on their ability to continue to receive tax credits right now,” Earnest said in a press briefing Tuesday.
A three-judge panel issued the ruling Tuesday, concluding 2-1 that the federal subsidies are illegal. The Department of Justice is seeking an en banc ruling from the appeals court, which would require all judges in the court to rule on the case. Eleven judges on the court would hear the case: seven Democrats and four Republicans.
That decision will likely also be appealed to the Supreme Court.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/22/obama-administration-to-ignore-court-ruling-on-obamacare-subsidies/#ixzz38DvmvVyG
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-07-22 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.

Way to go, Bummer. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-07-22 1:41 PM
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Once again Obama is picking and choosing what laws he wants to enforce and ignore. I'll be so glad when this Dicktator is gone. No wonder he is pushing for Elizabeth Warren for President. She would follow in the Dicktators shoes to a T. 
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-07-22 1:45 PM
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Nevertooold - 2014-07-23 11:41 AM Once again Obama is picking and choosing what laws he wants to enforce and ignore. I'll be so glad when this Dicktator is gone. No wonder he is pushing for Elizabeth Warren for President. She would follow in the Dicktators shoes to a T. 

Yep. Warren is just a new puppet on an old string. 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare


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RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 

This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 

That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare


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Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  

YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 
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cruise
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-07-22 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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Now this group voted against and another group voted for  GEEEZ  What mess after mess after mess with Obamacare.  Meanwhile I would imagine our boarders are still being overrun.  Other world events have center stage right now.  Did see where Gov. Perry is sending the National Guard to the boarder on Texas' dime.  Putin is spanking us again. Suicide bomber in Benghazi, and of course the Gaza strip.  So much happening.  I guess I am extremely old fashioned.  As times like this I would like to see the president of this country in the oval office speaking to the nation.  I do not care how many gadgets he has to keep informed of what is going on and in communication with whoever or how many times his head of FEMA has been to the boarder.  It is not the same as him making his presence clear.   Can his wife not do some of this fundraising stuff solo?  If I am not mistaken, 1 week from Thursday the Senate adjourns for a break.  Prehaps he has work to do at home.  Just boggles the mind.   
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-07-22 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare


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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 

Many doctors are handling that problem by refusing Medicare patients.   
 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-07-22 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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Frodo - 2014-07-22 3:37 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 
Many doctors are handling that problem by refusing Medicare patients.   

 

So far my husband's doctors are still taking Medicare. For how long...who knows? He's an established patient and I do think that helps since he's been using them long before he was on Medicare. I'm sure it will be much harder for me since I don't really have a doctor. 
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-07-22 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare


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Frodo - 2014-07-22 3:37 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 
Many doctors are handling that problem by refusing Medicare patients.   

 

That is how a Free Enterprise System/Market works. A Business Owner reserves the right to refuse service to anyone.

Can't say as I disagree with this concept. Freedom is a good thing!
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rodeomom13
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2014-07-22 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare



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Oh, but ACA is so great! As long as you read the NYT......  

 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/opinion/early-returns-on-health-care-reform.html?_r=0

Edited by rodeomom13 2014-07-22 4:06 PM
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-22 4:56 PM
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I was listening to MSNBC discuss a lawsuit in Virginia from someone who does not want to be forced to by insurance, someone who wants the freedom to decide for themselves.  Their argument is that you are taking away others freedom to buy insurance, especially those who need the susidies to make it affordable and how immoral it is.  Funny how not once  did they offer the solution of making the ACA optional so everyone has the freedom to decide what insurance they want, would solve a lot of issues but then of course if they don't shove it down everyone's throats they can't pay for it. Their freedom is defined as making you do what they want and what they decide is best for you.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-07-22 5:38 PM
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rodeomom13 - 2014-07-21 5:04 PM Oh, but ACA is so great! As long as you read the NYT......  



 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/11/opinion/early-returns-on-health-care-reform.html?_r=0

Pure BS............it is obvious those "happy" their premiums are not increasing to $1200.00 with a $12K deductible...........
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-07-22 8:04 PM
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Frodo - 2014-07-22 4:37 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 
Many doctors are handling that problem by refusing Medicare patients.   

 

 I actually chose a new Dr. based on the fact they didn't take Medicaid.  I feel I get better service and my concerns are met with more care. 
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-07-22 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: OT - Obamacare


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foundation horse - 2014-07-22 3:55 PM
Frodo - 2014-07-22 3:37 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 2:24 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-07-22 2:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-22 1:52 PM
RidenFly - 2014-07-22 1:40 PM I can see the bills racking up and then the whole system go down leaving hospitals and patients on the hook for billions.



Way to go, Bummer. 
This is already happening with medicare/medicaid patients 
That is why a medicare supplement is so important for people on medicare.  
YUP! And Medicare is SLOW to reimburse doctors and labs for their work, and they barely pay enough to cover costs. 
Many doctors are handling that problem by refusing Medicare patients.   

 
That is how a Free Enterprise System/Market works. A Business Owner reserves the right to refuse service to anyone.



Can't say as I disagree with this concept. Freedom is a good thing!

"I" have such a loyal following that someone actually took the time to dislke "Freedom is a good thing"post. HA! I hope those who disagree actually have the 'previlge' of living under Socialism/Communism! Then see just how much "You" dislke "Freedom is a good thing"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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