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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2014-07-30 9:39 AM
Subject: The dreaded tail ringer....what else could it



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I'm just looking for suggestions other then what I have already checked, I've posted this before and had some things done and my filly still wags her tail!

I've had hocks, stifles, X-rays done, flex test etc from vet (basic lameness exam)
I've had her chiropractored every 4-6 weeks
Massaged and lasered back, legs

She seems 100% sound.

Only thing I haven't done is check ovaries, I put her on smart pak mare harmony but she's already so laid back I don't want to make her to calm lol!!!

I only wear bumper spurs and I do carry a crop because she can be very lazy but when it comes time to run she's all business!

So do some just wag their tails???? Any other suggestions

http://youtu.be/sCl7rgXGTTE
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spitzh
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-07-30 9:44 AM
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Ive seen a gal tie her mare's tail to the side of the saddle. Nothing tight just slightly pulled up. I asked why she did that and she said if she didnt then her mare wouldnt run as well. I guess it stopped the tail ringing. This gal had the same problem, had her horse checked out from head to toe and couldnt find out the problem. So she thought it was a habit that the mare created. I hope you can find an answer.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-07-30 9:47 AM
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Ulcers

Ovaries

May need to be spayed or sutured
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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-07-30 9:51 AM
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I would say ovary pain and do you have her caslick'd? 
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bingo
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2014-07-30 9:53 AM
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I remember a gal who had a horse that won a bunch, but rang it's tail terribly. She ended up fracturing her leg during a run one day. It always make me wonder if there wasn't a stress fracture going on the whole time. Of course, some horse people will continue to run a horse when it's hurting.... go figure...
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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2014-07-30 10:30 AM
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My next check is ovaries, I always thought about navicar too but my farrier says there's no reason to believe she has navicular, may just check when I check ovaries.

Someone told me she's sour and doesn't like her job, sure doesn't seem like that to me!!! But I want to get down to the bottom of it.

I do know one 1d horse locally who is a tail ringer and wins almost all the barrel races, placed In top 10 in state finals of over 900 so I just don't know
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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2014-07-30 10:31 AM
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My next check is ovaries, I always thought about navicar too but my farrier says there's no reason to believe she has navicular, may just check when I check ovaries.

Someone told me she's sour and doesn't like her job, sure doesn't seem like that to me!!! But I want to get down to the bottom of it.

I do know one 1d horse locally who is a tail ringer and wins almost all the barrel races, placed In top 10 in state finals of over 900 so I just don't know
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3canchaser01
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-07-30 10:36 AM
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I've got a young gelding that does it, he's been vetted thoroughly, x-rayed, chiro'd. He loves to go in the arena and turn it up, so I've come to the conclusion some horses just do it.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-07-30 10:37 AM
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Have you checked your tack to make sure every thing if fitting right?  
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-07-30 10:41 AM
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SI joint, ovaries or ulcers...?! 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-07-30 10:45 AM
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The tail ringers I knew were sore threw their hips and back, check her and see if her back is sore. 
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clover girl
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2014-07-30 10:46 AM
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She isn't bad.  When I hear tail wringer, I think her tail never stops.  

A few old timers have said: If the tail moves up and down it from trying to work, but if it goes side to side or in a circle it is from pain.

My experience has shown that to be true.  I have one at home that would wring her tail and pee when running when I got her.  I got her overies right and a larger caslick put in and she stopped all together.  I rode one that would flick her tail when she was running home, but she vetted sound and was like riding a rocket when she left the 3rd.  She would also do it in the pasture when she was racing and playing with the other horses, but only when she was realllly trying.  
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KylaKris
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-07-30 10:46 AM
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KIDNEYS! Most vets never think to look there. She may just need some support in her kidneys. The bars of your saddle sit right on top of the kidneys. Have you ever had kidney pain? It wouldn't feel good to have someone bouncing around on them.

ETA: Because she is a mare, it is very likely that something in her reproductive line can be bothering her so I wouldn't discount that either.

Edited by KylaKris 2014-07-30 10:48 AM
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-07-30 11:09 AM
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clover girl - 2014-07-30 8:46 AM

She isn't bad.  When I hear tail wringer, I think her tail never stops.  

A few old timers have said: If the tail moves up and down it from trying to work, but if it goes side to side or in a circle it is from pain.

My experience has shown that to be true.  I have one at home that would wring her tail and pee when running when I got her.  I got her overies right and a larger caslick put in and she stopped all together.  I rode one that would flick her tail when she was running home, but she vetted sound and was like riding a rocket when she left the 3rd.  She would also do it in the pasture when she was racing and playing with the other horses, but only when she was realllly trying.  

I could see that. There are two mares that come to my mind when I think of horses that move their tail when they run...the first mare moves her tail up and down like the OPs horse and she clocks in the 1D. The other mare wrings her tail with her ears pinned and has peed during a run before, and pretty much just looks miserable.

I would still get ovaries and stuff checked though, just to be sure.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-07-30 11:31 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-07-30 9:45 AM The tail ringers I knew were sore threw their hips and back, check her and see if her back is sore. 

I'm really going to agree with this. My 3yr old big gelding was wringing his tail right before he dumped me...then I noticed when he would trot off in pasture unsaddled he would hold his tail off to the right. Then he started to drag his toes just wandering around slow and was squaring them off. I had a vet/chiro tell me he was out in his pelvis and she put him in, but it didn't seem to help that much...so I am taking him to another vet/chiro that is really well known and respected. I'm sure he is out somewhere and that is what the guy riding him believes as well. 
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-07-30 12:21 PM
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RnRJack - 2014-07-30 10:31 AM My next check is ovaries, I always thought about navicar too but my farrier says there's no reason to believe she has navicular, may just check when I check ovaries. Someone told me she's sour and doesn't like her job, sure doesn't seem like that to me!!! But I want to get down to the bottom of it. I do know one 1d horse locally who is a tail ringer and wins almost all the barrel races, placed In top 10 in state finals of over 900 so I just don't know

Have you had caslick's done on your mare?? If not, she could be sucking air and that alone will cause a pain issue.  
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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-07-30 12:30 PM
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There could be many things wrong or there could be nothing.  Most I have known have been from pain but Ruth Haislip went to the NFR on a mare that never stopped ringing her tail...   
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-07-30 12:47 PM
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I would check out the mare issues but in watching the video she only does it when you are kicking her, but not in her turns when you aren't kicking with both legs.  Is she consistent with that?  See what happens if you make a run and don't kick -urger her with seat, voice, and hands only.  Just a thought. 
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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2014-07-30 1:10 PM
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brlraceaddict - 2014-07-30 12:47 PM

I would check out the mare issues but in watching the video she only does it when you are kicking her, but not in her turns when you aren't kicking with both legs.  Is she consistent with that?  See what happens if you make a run and don't kick -urger her with seat, voice, and hands only.  Just a thought. 

That is what my trainer said also, she thinks she's just really sensitive to touch and I've had to learn to be more aggressive when riding my gelding by kicking, she also has to be pushed Into her turns she's very "turny" I wear the bumper spurs only in my runs, when I work her at home I don't wear anything if she gets lazy I give her a tap with the end of my split rein.

I never realized the difference between which way the tail rings and I'm happy hers isn't going the "bad way". I will still look into other issues - ovaries and other things mentioned

Thanks everyone
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whiplashranch
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2014-07-30 1:20 PM
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clover girl - 2014-07-30 10:46 AM

She isn't bad.  When I hear tail wringer, I think her tail never stops.  

A few old timers have said: If the tail moves up and down it from trying to work, but if it goes side to side or in a circle it is from pain.

My experience has shown that to be true.  I have one at home that would wring her tail and pee when running when I got her.  I got her overies right and a larger caslick put in and she stopped all together.  I rode one that would flick her tail when she was running home, but she vetted sound and was like riding a rocket when she left the 3rd.  She would also do it in the pasture when she was racing and playing with the other horses, but only when she was realllly trying.  

Agree 100%!! My two both pump their tail up and down when you hustle with a bat or an over & under. Always have !
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