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Location: Peach State | If you have any experience with horses out of this line please share. I have a 5 year old out of Lowry Super Star (goes back to lowry hancock jr) and pretty Prill hancock (back to blue valentine). He's got a motor and athletic build but anytime he gets 4-5 days he wants to buck. Not bad just throwing a fit bc he doesn't want to have to do something. I've heard these hancocks typically have better attitudes once they have a job, but wanted some more input. |
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| Mine that I have was like that until he was about 7 he literally had to have the snot rode out of him almost everyday and then one day in the spring he just turned completely into a different horse in the fact my husbands team roping partner has one as well and he was the same way its like all of a sudden maturity hits them overnight and they turn into dreams that will work themselves into the ground for you. I always view it as they are testing you to see if you will stick it out with them. |
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| I love my Hancock gelding. He did mature late but was always very laid back and easy to train. I would get another. He is built like a house and is super handy. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Most horses do better with a job. And plenty of hancock/blue valentine horses are known to be buckers. Doesn't make them bad horses or people wouldn't keep breeding them. They tend to be hard workers and have nerves of steel. You can't beat one into the ground if you try. Had one in high school. Great animal. However, now that I'm a bit older . . . I like my butt in the saddle lol. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I have a nine year old Hancock/driftwood bred mare. She does need to be used consistently. Otherwise she becomes an antsy fart. Never has bucked. But very go go go. However, she is the hardest working, most people-pleasing horse I have ever had the pleasure of owning. I would breed her in a heartbeat(for myself) if I put effort in to knowing what she would cross well with. |
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Location: NC | I have a 4 yr old I bought this winter green broke. I just had a baby in Feb and I only get to ride her like once every month or 2, but each time she does the same no young silliness or overly fresh. In fact I rode her on a big sanctioned trail with like 800 horses and she did great crossed water and everything. She seems to be smart and catch on fast. I am hoping to send her to a training soon who can put constant time on her and look forward to seeing how she does. :)
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Location: Oxford, Kansas | I have a 2 yr old that has Blue Valentine in three different places and another Hancock bred mare in his pedigree. He bucked like a crack house the first 3 or 4 times saddled but now has a solid 30 days on him and he has never tried to buck with a rider. It's so strange how the switch flipped immediately, I now trust him completely not to buck at all he is VERY quiet but sweet, hard working, and so so smart! I think he is going to make me a very nice horse and I would love to have another! |
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Location: Peach State | The more I ride him the better he does, but it just seems everytime I give him just a little break he goes back to being green broke with a very unwilling attitude. I have hopes of making him a rodeo horse but I'd prefer for barrels not broncs lol |
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Location: lone star state | They are generally very tough horses both physically and mentally. If you ever get past the buck they are usually great horses. They do require more riding than some other bloodlines due to their toughness. Working cowboys love them because they are tough and cowy. My colt trainer told me their attitude comes from the mare so depending on how broncy tough his mama was has an influence on the colt. |
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| I have had my gelding since he was 3 he is 15 now. He never ever offered to buck or rear and is not spooky at all. He is tough and loves people. I know everyone's experience is different. He is out of a Hancock stud and a rip rip mare |
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Location: South | I own a daughter of Joe Hancocks Drifter. I'll be the first to tell you that she was "contrary" to put it in a nice way :) After several months of intensive ranch work, like everyone else one day it's like the light bulb clicked on! I absolutely love her! She is one of the most hardest working horses I've every owned. I bought her as a 6 year old barrel prospect and have since started her on the pattern. She now is 9 years old and is clocking 4D times with very limited hauling. She loves cattle, and will pen, cut, sort, them all day long. I would own 5 more if my husband would let me. She is also the type that I can go run barrels and she drops her head walks out like quite cutting horse. I can also let an inexperience rider on her and she will take good care of them.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/plr+sunday+jewel
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Location: Kansas | I like blue valentine horses, but you really need to give them a job to keep their mind busy. Good horses, I wouldn't hesitate to own another one. |
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Location: SW MO | We have bred Blue Valentine horses for years Our senior sire has 22 crosses to Joe Hancock & is about 30% Blue Valentine. A lot of his foals have over 40 crosses to Joe Hancock. We have never had any problem with them bucking, most of them never even buck the first time you saddle them. Rafter the stallion has never bucked. You can go months without riding him saddle him up get on and ride off. He doesn't need warmed up. He is athletic and quick, he is very soft in the mouth, gives easy to pressure & is very level head nothing shakes him up. He has produced several performance & speed event horses. A few years ago one of his offspring was resv. Champion in the MO state timed events.
But I have know a lot of people who have had trouble with Lowry Star horses they are super horses, but you have to really be a rider to get them there.
Even though we breed Hancock horses there are lines of Hancock we stay away from Lowry Star is one of them.
Please don't think I'm knocking them I'm not, they can as I said make super horses |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I could brag on my guy all day long...he is a big horse with a strong work ethic. I bought him as a yearling and he is now 7...he is the nicest, best horse I have ever sat on. |
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Location: Oxford, Kansas | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cinsational+bailey
This is my colt, granted I understand how far back the Hancock is probably plays a role but also there is ALOT of Hancock so I would think even though it is so far back alot of the characteristics are still there. My colt is almost lazy to a fault lol I wish he was a bit more lively/spooky, shoot I rode him at a new indoor arena the other night with cows in the back and two big fans blowing right at the gate and he walked right up to the fans without a care in the world. NOTHING has spooked this colt but he is a little untrusting until he gets to know you. I picked him up for $100 at a cattle auction as an untouched stud colt about 90 days ago and I'm sure glad I did, I believe he's going to be the nicest, cheapest horse I've ever bought! |
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Location: South | I like the cross of that colt. Mine is very lazy too!
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | I have a 4 year old mare that is double bred Hancocks Blue Boy on top and Gooseberry, Blue Valentine on the bottom. She is the sweetest most willing horse I've ever ridden. She only has about 120 rides on her and she has never ever bucked, even after not being ridden for weeks at a time. I've only owned her since last December. It took her a little bit to trust me, but now that she does she searches me out when she sees me or hears me outside. She is my buddy. My mom has a 1/2 sister to her out of the same sire and she is super sweet and willing also. Mom loves her. I would own a whole field full of them bred like these mares.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/w+lady+drift+dandy
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Location: Louisiana | Can't say enough about my Playgun/Hancock gelding - 8 years old had him since he was three - no buck what so ever. Solid 3d barrel horse as well as a jam up heading and heeling horse.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hank+n+hancock
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Location: NC | This is my girl. She is super friendly always meets you in the pasture. If she sees my car pull up she heads to the fence. and boy oh boy is she a cookie monster!!! haha My only complaint is I wish she were a little taller she is about 14.3 and I don't think she will get much taller... :-/
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Location: SE KS | This is my filly's pedigree, she's only a yearling, but seems laid back & tough. Easy to handle & get along with, she's had her feet trimmed 3 times, the farrier remarked how well she stood for him!!! Can't wait to start her!!!
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