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 Hawty & Nawty
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| Runs over and kills Kevin Ward Jr.
It really looked like an accident. You can't stop those cars on a dime. Thoughts? |
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| Terrible accident, you don't expect a driver to leave his car and be standing in the middle of a dimly lit track. Prayers for all involved.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-08-10 9:14 AM
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I Need a Xanax!
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| I am very saddened for the family and all involved but the very first thing I though of was WHY on Earth did he get out of his car and go out on the track toward the other cars??? He was nearly hit by another car right before Tony hit him..... |
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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Horrible tragedy......and if it had been anybody less famous then TS then we would never have even heard about it let alone be talking about it. |
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Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | Used2B - 2014-08-10 9:14 AM I am very saddened for the family and all involved but the very first thing I though of was WHY on Earth did he get out of his car and go out on the track toward the other cars??? He was nearly hit by another car right before Tony hit him.....
That was going to be my question. He looked extremely angry when, ( I don't watch nascar) it seems like bumping etc is part of the race to gain advantage. I'm sure they're groomed throughout not to get out of their cars until help arrives. Make me wonder if they knew each other personally or was this an ongoing rivalry between them? Not thinking a conspiracy at all but a horrible tradgedy. Just doesn't make sense. I watched the video a couple of times, very sad. |
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 Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Kevin should have never got out and put himself in the position he did.....sadly his emotions cost him his life. Did Tony hit him on purpose that we will never know..... Should he race today I would say not.
He better be preparing for the legal action to follow whether charges.....and or a lawsuit.
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 Ms. Elvis
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | It was just announced Tony is not racing today! A backup driver, Regan Smith, is on his way! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | After watching the video several times, the man was weaving and running back and forth all over the track and was almost hit by another car. He was ANGRY and certainly wasn't interested in getting off of the track. It does look like TS tried to swerve his car but clipped him.......prayers for his family and TS...... |
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Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | They did just announce Tony would not race today. |
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Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | Idk, I watched it again. Looks like his car fish tailed, like he gassed it when he passed by him, maybe to scare him and it clipped him instead. Very tragic. I'm not watching it again. I'm sure there will be ongoing investigations. I don't know anything about racing. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | There are reports of people saying he gunned it right before he hit him, because you can hear it on a video, but all you hear on the video is other cars right in front of the stands, you cannot possibly here the cars across the track.
I think the general public should let the investigators do their jobs because nobody should be the judge and jury on this.
I am not suprised to see Tony not racing today. Put yourself in his shoes. I would not be able to race or function a day after knowing somebody died. |
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I'm a Cry Baby
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Location: n.c. | Very tragic. Should never have happened. And you are right; if Tony hadn't been involved, you would have never heard about it.
This happens at race tracks all across the country. Emotions flare and you aren't thinking clearly. Yes, they bump and scrape.
These cars cost a bundle; it's the chance you take. Prayers for everyone involved.
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Oh how horrible, I dont watch the races and havent watch the news, so did all this happen during a race? In front of fans? This sounds like a dumb question I know, but this is the first I have heard of this....Many many prayers going out to the familys of these men |
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 The Famous Hot Wing Chicken Girl
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| From someone who has a racing background (My Dad is involved in NASCAR as well as some organizations..) I really don't think it's too much of an "accident". I definitely don't think Tony meant to kill the boy, but knowing Tony and that temper, he knew where he was and was trying to scare the you know what out of him.
I really hope he doesn't get away with a slap on the hand. He's gotten away with too much as is. |
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| A very dimly lit track, a car in front of Tony that kept him from seeing the guy til just the last moment, shock and a fraction of a second to react to seeing a person on the track. Long story short: the young man let his temper get the best of him, stepped out on that track to show his butt (road rage on the track) and it ended in him getting himself killed; people (some children no doubt) that will forever have that vision in their minds of seeing him get killed; his family that will forever grieve him; Tony who will forever have to live with what happened. Senseless, tragic occurence that was brought on by stupidity.
This situation has the possibility into turning in a huge thing that will effect many people. Tony might possibly be sued, though I can't imagine criminal charges will be filed....but who knows. The media attention and how people respond to the incident according to how they perceive it could have a rippling effect on Tony's team and sponsors. The track could get sued....certainly wouldn't surprise me a bit. Why? All because somebody decided to have a temper tantrum.
It's a tragedy and I pray for the young man's family as well as for Tony and all those in his camp who are likely to feel the backlash of this. |
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Hawty & Nawty
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| runs4fun - 2014-08-11 9:10 AM A very dimly lit track, a car in front of Tony that kept him from seeing the guy til just the last moment, shock and a fraction of a second to react to seeing a person on the track. Long story short: the young man let his temper get the best of him, stepped out on that track to show his butt (road rage on the track) and it ended in him getting himself killed; people (some children no doubt) that will forever have that vision in their minds of seeing him get killed; his family that will forever grieve him; Tony who will forever have to live with what happened. Senseless, tragic occurence that was brought on by stupidity.
This situation has the possibility into turning in a huge thing that will effect many people. Tony might possibly be sued, though I can't imagine criminal charges will be filed....but who knows. The media attention and how people respond to the incident according to how they perceive it could have a rippling effect on Tony's team and sponsors. The track could get sued....certainly wouldn't surprise me a bit. Why? All because somebody decided to have a temper tantrum.
It's a tragedy and I pray for the young man's family as well as for Tony and all those in his camp who are likely to feel the backlash of this.
I'm in total agreement here. Two careers ended that day. Praying for all involved. |
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| cowgirlchic - 2014-08-10 11:28 AM From someone who has a racing background (My Dad is involved in NASCAR as well as some organizations..) I really don't think it's too much of an "accident". I definitely don't think Tony meant to kill the boy, but knowing Tony and that temper, he knew where he was and was trying to scare the you know what out of him.
I really hope he doesn't get away with a slap on the hand. He's gotten away with too much as is.
I think that is a very big assumption - knowing what Tony was thinking - and one that no one can know for sure. Shame on you.
My husband has racing experience, short track ovals - pavement and dirt tracks - as well as driving Nascar (back when it was Winston Cup and Busch Grand National) though retired long ago. He's looked at the video several times and says it was so dark on the track and the car in front of Tony kept him from seeing the guy til it was too late and that not even Tony with his temper would of done what your suggesting. The young man caused this accident and ultimately his own death by doing something stupid and irresponsible. Period.
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Has anyone been the driver in one of those cars? Because I don't think anyone can make even a fair assumption until you are behind the wheel.
There's a family, a very good family. a christian family, who's teenage son back over their daughter and killed her. Never judge. Just never judge..... |
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 Got to have my Pepsi
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Location: Baden, PA | I watched it it more than a few times just trying to understand exactly what happened. The first thing I noticed was that The other driver got out of his car and walked out into a "hot track". The next thing is that driver was wearing all black on a track that wasn't lit all that great. From what I seen, the #45 had to juke to get around him. The #45 was infront of Stewart, this gave Tony not that much time to react. Tony did try to swerve to get around him, but still clipped him with the right rear wheel. There are a number of things that did contribute to this to compund matters. The first thing was Ward getting out of his car and walking out into the track. Unless the are circimstances that you need to get out of that car before the safety workers get there (I.e. fire) stay in the car. What he was wearing certainly contributed to it as well. Add to that caution speed (40-50 MPH) and it is a disaterous situation. Now I don't know if Tony uses a spotter at sprint car races. If he does, that spotter sould have been giving him the information that Ward got out his car. That could have made all the difference in the world. But that neither here nor there at this point.
http://www.motorsport.com/sprint/news/yes-tony-stewart-did-run-over-a-fellow-driver-who-was-killed-but-know-the-whole-story
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The Famous Hot Wing Chicken Girl
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| runs4fun - 2014-08-10 11:18 AM cowgirlchic - 2014-08-10 11:28 AM From someone who has a racing background (My Dad is involved in NASCAR as well as some organizations..) I really don't think it's too much of an "accident". I definitely don't think Tony meant to kill the boy, but knowing Tony and that temper, he knew where he was and was trying to scare the you know what out of him.
I really hope he doesn't get away with a slap on the hand. He's gotten away with too much as is.
I think that is a very big assumption - knowing what Tony was thinking - and one that no one can know for sure. Shame on you.
My husband has racing experience, short track ovals - pavement and dirt tracks - as well as driving Nascar (back when it was Winston Cup and Busch Grand National) though retired long ago. He's looked at the video several times and says it was so dark on the track and the car in front of Tony kept him from seeing the guy til it was too late and that not even Tony with his temper would of done what your suggesting. The young man caused this accident and ultimately his own death by doing something stupid and irresponsible. Period.
Edited by cowgirlchic 2014-08-10 12:45 PM
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