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Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?

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Rodeo_Queen_21
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2014-08-10 7:14 PM
Subject: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?



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EDIT 2:

I did get someone out here to look at my saddle. I will be getting a new one that will fit him better then the one I previously got. I will also be getting a new saddle pad.

So now that I know what caused it, I am JUST looking for someway to make the hair on this (now penny/dime size) rub to grow in quicker. Or anything to do for him to make it comfortable when ridding with the new saddle I will get. (Like put a Band-Aid on it, something like that) I do not want to cut a hole in the saddle pad.

I've heard zinc oxide in baby diaper ointment works for hair re-growth? I want to be sure before I put something like that on him.


Any information helps, thank you!

Edited by Rodeo_Queen_21 2014-08-10 11:21 PM
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CurlyQ
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2014-08-10 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?


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 Usually means that your saddle doesn't fit. Some ranch horses get them from being worked all day but even they get rotated out. Takes longer than a week or two for hair to grow back. I'd find someone or a saddle shop nearby to help you. Wimpyb is sometimes on here and is the saddle fitting expert. How think is your pad?
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-08-10 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?


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MTG may help.

I have to agree, a proper fitting saddle and pad do not leave rub marks.

Horses body condition changes as they age, and it can vary week by week depending on the exercise, and nutritional intake.

I would encourage you to check your saddle pad make sure it has no hard or soft spots. I wash mine and remove excess hair and sweat every 6 months, and I have an abundance of pads so it may not be used every day either.

I would check your saddle make sure the tree has not broke or warped during the year, it does happen, I would make sure the nails and screws are not loose, and there are no sharp objects poking the horse.

If that all checks out, then I would ensure my saddle still fits.

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Rodeo_Queen_21
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2014-08-10 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?



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cheryl makofka - 2014-08-10 8:35 PM

MTG may help.

I have to agree, a proper fitting saddle and pad do not leave rub marks.

Horses body condition changes as they age, and it can vary week by week depending on the exercise, and nutritional intake.

I would encourage you to check your saddle pad make sure it has no hard or soft spots. I wash mine and remove excess hair and sweat every 6 months, and I have an abundance of pads so it may not be used every day either.

I would check your saddle make sure the tree has not broke or warped during the year, it does happen, I would make sure the nails and screws are not loose, and there are no sharp objects poking the horse.

If that all checks out, then I would ensure my saddle still fits.


I guess I just don't understand. If I got the saddle to fit him, and pad suggest to fit him best, why would it rub after only having it for about maybe 7-8 months? I have 2 of these pads and switch them out to ensure they stay good.

I've heard that saddle sores can be caused from a saddle girth not being tight, then having the saddle rub if it has pressure on it from being loose.(Because then if it is loose, it will slide around more.)

I figured that is what was the problem. Like I said, still getting things checked. I just want opinions on what cream to put on to make hair grow faster.

Thank you though! I will have to check out MTG.
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-08-10 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?


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 yea...and I bought a three thousand dollar caldwell that fit my horse like a glove, was everything I needed, worked awesome for a year.  Then left a saddle sore that almost ruined his career.  So yes, it can absolutely be poor saddle fit.  Nothing you can really do to make the hair grow back that fast.  I was able to start riding my horse before his wound healed 100 percent and we just literally covered it with a large bandaid.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-08-10 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?


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Rodeo_Queen_21 - 2014-08-10 8:46 PM

cheryl makofka - 2014-08-10 8:35 PM

MTG may help.

I have to agree, a proper fitting saddle and pad do not leave rub marks.

Horses body condition changes as they age, and it can vary week by week depending on the exercise, and nutritional intake.

I would encourage you to check your saddle pad make sure it has no hard or soft spots. I wash mine and remove excess hair and sweat every 6 months, and I have an abundance of pads so it may not be used every day either.

I would check your saddle make sure the tree has not broke or warped during the year, it does happen, I would make sure the nails and screws are not loose, and there are no sharp objects poking the horse.

If that all checks out, then I would ensure my saddle still fits.


I guess I just don't understand. If I got the saddle to fit him, and pad suggest to fit him best, why would it rub after only having it for about maybe 7-8 months? I have 2 of these pads and switch them out to ensure they stay good.

I've heard that saddle sores can be caused from a saddle girth not being tight, then having the saddle rub if it has pressure on it from being loose.(Because then if it is loose, it will slide around more.)

I figured that is what was the problem. Like I said, still getting things checked. I just want opinions on what cream to put on to make hair grow faster.

Thank you though! I will have to check out MTG.

Some pads deteriorate with wear, or felt more so it will not be the same.

As for the loose cinch and the saddle moving causing the bald spot, I have only heard of this occurring due to poor saddle fit.

I ride all my horses with a loose cinch, and I loosen my cinch off when cooling out, sometimes I will walk a 1/4 of a mile with a loose cinch, and have never had saddle sores or soreness due to saddle fit.

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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-08-10 10:24 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?



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one quick note. DO NOT ADD MORE PRESSURE UNDER THE PAD WHERE THE SORE IS TO "CUSHION" IT OR IT WILL GET WORSE. If anything, clean your pad and/or cut a hole out where it is causing the sore to relieve the pressure it is causing. More than likely your saddle IS the issue. Not your loose cinch. Me loosening my belt on my jeans won't cause a sore on my waist...

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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-08-10 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?



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Have you considered that who ever told you that saddle fit and what pad to use could be wrong? There are lots of sales reps that will fit a saddle that dont really understand what theyre doing.  Where is the rubbed spot on your horses back?
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Rodeo_Queen_21
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2014-08-10 11:15 PM
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wimpyb - 2014-08-10 10:24 PM

one quick note. DO NOT ADD MORE PRESSURE UNDER THE PAD WHERE THE SORE IS TO "CUSHION" IT OR IT WILL GET WORSE. If anything, clean your pad and/or cut a hole out where it is causing the sore to relieve the pressure it is causing. More than likely your saddle IS the issue. Not your loose cinch. Me loosening my belt on my jeans won't cause a sore on my waist...


If cutting a hole isn't an option, what other advice do you have to relieve the pressure, just wash the pad? I did that about a month ago. I can do it again. If needed.


And the rub is located on the middle of his back. Not on his spine, but to the right.


I checked on it tonight and it looks better. Its not the size of a quarter, more the size of a penny or dime now. I'll have to see if I can get a picture to upload.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-08-10 11:55 PM
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If the skin isn't broken, it is not as big of a deal on getting the hair to grow back before saddling, it is more important to find the root of the problem, saddle, pad, or both, it sounds like you are trying.

Zinc will not hurt the horse, and will offer a barrier protection, but is horrible to get off of pads, as it is oil based.

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Rodeo_Queen_21
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2014-08-11 12:02 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-08-10 11:55 PM

If the skin isn't broken, it is not as big of a deal on getting the hair to grow back before saddling, it is more important to find the root of the problem, saddle, pad, or both, it sounds like you are trying.

Zinc will not hurt the horse, and will offer a barrier protection, but is horrible to get off of pads, as it is oil based.


Me and the person I called are thinking it is the saddle. I'm getting a new saddle that will fit him better than the one now and buying him a brand new pad like his old one and going to test that out. If that does not work, I will find another pad.


I just want to know what to do in the meantime, to keep it from getting worse. I don't want it rubbing him and hurting him more.



By the sounds of it, I will just put the Zinc Oxide on a Band-Aid and put that on it. I don't really know what else I can do. People say to cut holes in the pad I have now, but I don't really want to go cutting holes in a really expensive pad. And I don't want to put a cheap pad on him, cut a hole in it for the rub, and have another rub form from the cheap pad.


I guess I'm just stuck on what I should do, lol.

Edited by Rodeo_Queen_21 2014-08-11 12:05 AM
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luvinrunnin
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2014-08-11 6:48 AM
Subject: RE: Saddle Rubs and Hair Growth... Help?


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It sounds like you don't want to do what's necessary, which is cut a hole in the pad. So the other option is stay off the horse. Maybe photos would help. 

You'll want to apply something that will hold in the moisture of the skin, like A&D ointment, or something along those lines. Furacin is fine too. Apply 2-3x a day if you can.

It would be good if you could talk to wimpyb further about saddle fit. Then you'll have an idea of how to check each saddle and see if it fits. Horses' backs DO change over time, just like your body changes the more you work out, etc.

Good luck!

 
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-08-11 10:51 AM
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Don't worry about a cheaper pad to use unless it is neoprene and then I wouldn't use it. Most pads are ok to use, especially temporarily in this case. Fine one and cut a hole in it if you have to ride. You have to do something or don't ride. If it's in the center of his back, the saddle has too much rock or you may want to lay your pad out and check for anything that may have worked into the material. I doubt it in this case that is the issue, but the pad probably wasn't helping your poor fitting saddle either.
I'm surprised your "saddle fitter" couldn't help you with that. Tells me a lot about their credentials in fitting. Unfortunately, everyone now is a fitter - and I mean that in a not so good way. Helping is fine, but if you don't know how to help someone fix an issue you aren't qualified to be calling yourself a fitter. Yes, getting a correctly fitted saddle is very important first and foremost but sometimes you have to hunt for the right fit and what do you do in the meantime? Just because a store sells saddles or even makes saddles doesn't mean sic- em in whether it fits or not. Truly it is a buyer beware situation.
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