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Best liniment/poultice for horses back?

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hannavashays
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2014-08-11 11:23 AM
Subject: Best liniment/poultice for horses back?



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I'm using Deep Freeze body wash and Bigeloil liniment, but what are some other things I could use for a sore inflamed back? Can I use an actual clay poultice down the spine? I have a BOT blanket but it's way too hot for that.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-08-11 11:33 AM
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 I have used a Bigeloil/DMSO/glycerin combo. Just be sure to wash it off before you ride.   Sore No More would work too without worrying about getting irritated. It's just not as strong. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-08-11 12:05 PM
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I would want to get to the root of the cause of sore back, hocks, saddle fit, etc, fix the problem so I don't have to treat the back.

To treat any injury acute ice is the perferred treatment, chronic, is heat. I would probably thermotex the horse, massage, chiro do some stretches, long trotting, and after sore no more gel.
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hannavashays
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2014-08-11 12:31 PM
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We are treating his back problem, but I'm just looking for things to take soreness away before and after a run.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-08-11 12:36 PM
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Sore no more, stretches and a magnetic blanket. They make a big difference in my experience. I do this for my back and my horses.

Edited by GLP 2014-08-11 12:38 PM
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jojammer
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-08-11 3:48 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2014-08-11 11:33 AM

 I have used a Bigeloil/DMSO/glycerin combo. Just be sure to wash it off before you ride.   Sore No More would work too without worrying about getting irritated. It's just not as strong. 

I've used dmso mixed with bigeloil before, but was afraid to use it around a joint or bony structure. Is it safe? I was afraid the alcohol might be bad there. :)
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recarlerrab
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2014-08-23 12:13 PM
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jojammer - 2014-08-11 4:48 PM

Three 4 Luck - 2014-08-11 11:33 AM

 I have used a Bigeloil/DMSO/glycerin combo. Just be sure to wash it off before you ride.   Sore No More would work too without worrying about getting irritated. It's just not as strong. 

I've used dmso mixed with bigeloil before, but was afraid to use it around a joint or bony structure. Is it safe? I was afraid the alcohol might be bad there. :)

I would like to know how you mix dmso/ bigeoil and where you apply it. Would you apply to muscle and joint areas?
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runbrls
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-08-23 1:51 PM
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if memory serves me right, it's 1 part dmso, 1 part beigel oil, and 2 or 3 parts water.  I love it.  Can use as spray after run; trailering, etc.  My goofball had a fight with the stall door and of course the stall door won.  His hock was so swollen.  Took the swelling right on out.  Just do not get on open wounds.
 
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recarlerrab
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2014-08-23 3:09 PM
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Thank you I am going to give it a try for my horse with sore hamstrings
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Dash4KJ
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-08-23 3:14 PM
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DMSO will take whatever its mixed with and push it further into the muscle, joints, etc. please know that-  I would use a therapy blanket or lasers until you find the source of the soreness. I just ordered  Back on Track saddle pad liners to use on my boys although i dont have issues with back pain in my horses. It may help you. 

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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-08-23 3:54 PM
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Sore back means sore stifles, I sweat with DMSO furazone then plastic duct tape
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-08-23 4:13 PM
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I just started trying Thermaflex with MSM. I am using it to tighten a leg. It has worked well on the leg. Must use gloves. Very potent. Cannot wrap or put anything over it. POTENT stuff.
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uno-dos-tres!
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-08-23 4:33 PM
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If you have R/O a functional physical problem consider checking into ulcers by using the ulcer dx points along the back. If the wither pocket "jumps" or twitches with light to moderate contact and BL20 and BL21 and LIV13 along the 18th rib midway are reactive...try some antiacids for 10 days. It could be ulcers. 

The DMSO can be cut in half in the mixture posted above and you get the benefits just the same. 
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chicks2
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-08-24 1:53 PM
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mollibtexan - 2014-08-23 3:54 PM

Sore back means sore stifles, I sweat with DMSO furazone then plastic duct tape

After 2 horses with back issues, a sore back means a sore back. There was a great article in the August BHN from an imaging vet in VA. You may already know your horse has the pathology and you're treating the symptoms.

Get your hands on the article, if you haven't already. I've been around horses all my life, and every day I learn how much I don't know. From what I read you have to go to a clinic with one of the big xray machines to get the detail needed for a good diagnosis. I'd do that before I started assuming anything.

I know about mine now, and am working on how to manage. This article is great, cuz I'm thinking I should probably do this after each run to keep him comfortable.

Good Luck.
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chicks2
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-08-24 1:54 PM
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I said this article, but I meant this thread is great. Thanks for starting it.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-08-24 2:40 PM
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One bottle of green alcohol, one small bottle of vinegar and one cup of absorbine, one bottle of witch hazel mix in a 5 galllon bucket fill the rest with water , warm or cold, Use a large sponge. Soak the horse first then apply the bucket. Have a place to turn your horse loose after cause that stuff will go to work.
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erinamber15
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2014-08-24 3:25 PM
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Try a Back on Track mesh sheet overnight or even just an hour before you ride or in the trailer. It takes away any soreness and makes for shorter warm up it has made the biggest difference in my sore backed horse you would have never known.
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recarlerrab
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2014-08-24 7:53 PM
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cow pie - 2014-08-24 3:40 PM

One bottle of green alcohol, one small bottle of vinegar and one cup of absorbine, one bottle of witch hazel mix in a 5 galllon bucket fill the rest with water , warm or cold, Use a large sponge. Soak the horse first then apply the bucket. Have a place to turn your horse loose after cause that stuff will go to work.

What will it do to them? Make them want to roll?
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-08-24 10:12 PM
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If you ever had absorbine on your hands it makes your hands tingle and will make a horse tingle the same way. Just like a good massage on an electronic machine.
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recarlerrab
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2014-08-25 7:27 PM
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cow pie - 2014-08-24 11:12 PM

If you ever had absorbine on your hands it makes your hands tingle and will make a horse tingle the same way. Just like a good massage on an electronic machine.

Right so why do I need somewhere to turn my horse loose? Usually, I put liniment on and let them stand tied in their stall. Sorry if I'm acting like a dumb dumb but I'm confused
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