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Location: Texas | I have just started following this story and am so saddened for our country. I have heard as much as has been released about the autopsy and most of the other info that has been released and will wait for further details before I form an opinion. If the officer was at fault he should be tried In a court of law and held accountable if the facts support that. If he did not wrong he should be left a lone. I am all for peoples right to speak their mind And have organized peaceful protests, but this is crazy. All day long the protestors are peaceful But at night all heck breaks loose. The officer is said to be in hiding, yesterday they were people calling for his death which is crazy Looting and violence , throwing rocks at reporters don't people realize that those actions are not helping their cause. I am just saddened at the state of our country! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | As most people here know, normally I doubt the cops... But not this time. I saw the full video from the store and it speaks much about Brown's attitude at the time. That attitude was "I'm bigger than you, (6'4" 300 pounds) and I'll do what I want to." This was further proven when he refused to get out of the middle of the street at the officers direction. Despite what the family lawyers are saying today, the results from the autopsy show all 6 gunshot wounds were from the front, which proves Mr Johnson lied about him being shot in the back. Mr Johnson is also the one that stated Brown had his hands up in surrender when the cop opened fire and that Brown never hit the cop. What we don't know yet... how many times did the cop shoot? The rest of the story about the shot fired when the cop was still in the car (which everyone agrees happened) and we still have not seen pics of the cop's face after the altercation. One other thing...
I PROMISE you!! Someone has a video of the altercation... There were too many people Tweeting while it was going on for nobody to have filmed it via cell phone. Who has the video now or if it will ever come to light, we'll just have to wait to see. I support the police officer in this one.
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Location: Harrisonville, Missouri | I live on the other side of the state and have been following this. I don't understand why this has been allowed to continue this long. Their schools are closed, businesses are closed, looted, etc. Members of their community are not able to make a living, their children aren't being educated and they will forever be remembered for this. I don't see that they are going to change anything. All the looting, shooting, robbing and violence does nothing to further their cause. I would think it would be embarrassing. Wouldn't you want to have all the facts before doing all this? As much as they have a right to protest, this officer is innocent until proven guilty. |
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Location: Texas | I have been watch Fox News on the live coverage. I hate to say this but I believe many more people are going to get hurt and even possibly killed before this is over. Personally I just don't get the riot mentality. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | engravedinvitation - 2014-08-18 10:41 PM
I live on the other side of the state and have been following this. I don't understand why this has been allowed to continue this long. Their schools are closed, businesses are closed, looted, etc. Members of their community are not able to make a living, their children aren't being educated and they will forever be remembered for this. I don't see that they are going to change anything. All the looting, shooting, robbing and violence does nothing to further their cause. I would think it would be embarrassing. Wouldn't you want to have all the facts before doing all this? As much as they have a right to protest, this officer is innocent until proven guilty.
The reports I've seen say most of the people arrested after curfew hours are people from other areas... Showing up to stir the pot.
Also, I'm waiting for the 'Tox' report on Brown... but those normally take a while. |
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Location: Harrisonville, Missouri | komet. - 2014-08-18 10:52 PM
engravedinvitation - 2014-08-18 10:41 PM
I live on the other side of the state and have been following this. I don't understand why this has been allowed to continue this long. Their schools are closed, businesses are closed, looted, etc. Members of their community are not able to make a living, their children aren't being educated and they will forever be remembered for this. I don't see that they are going to change anything. All the looting, shooting, robbing and violence does nothing to further their cause. I would think it would be embarrassing. Wouldn't you want to have all the facts before doing all this? As much as they have a right to protest, this officer is innocent until proven guilty.
The reports I've seen say most of the people arrested after curfew hours are people from other areas... Showing up to stir the pot.
Also, I'm waiting for the 'Tox' report on Brown... but those normally take a while.
Me too, on the Tox screen. I've been watching on CNN. Yes, I keep hearing the word "Plant" when they start talking about those who are causing problems. |
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Location: Kansas | I found it amazing that many were / are now complaining about tear gas and the "families peacefully protesting". If you are going to be protesting in any way WHY in the world would you bring your children?? There has already been gun fire and yet you bring kids....stay home, leave the streets to the unlawful and let it get brought under control. Oh and quit trashing your own neighborhood and businesses. However, I believe those doing the damage are not the good folks who live there, but the opportunists. |
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Location: Arkansas | I'm watching it now on CNN. Peaceful protest has turned ugly with the bad actor's. Police, tear gas, the whole nine yards. What a freaking mess! |
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Location: Harrisonville, Missouri | I guess they are going to protest until the officer is arrested. I wonder how much of Ferguson will be left if and when that ever happens. |
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Location: Harrisonville, Missouri | runnin hard - 2014-08-18 11:08 PM
I found it amazing that many were / are now complaining about tear gas and the "families peacefully protesting". If you are going to be protesting in any way WHY in the world would you bring your children?? There has already been gun fire and yet you bring kids....stay home, leave the streets to the unlawful and let it get brought under control. Oh and quit trashing your own neighborhood and businesses. However, I believe those doing the damage are not the good folks who live there, but the opportunists.
I think that is crazy. I keep seeing small children on TV and can't believe it. |
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| Both sides are jackasses, imagine being stopped by police all the time for little to no reason, im sure I would be doing more than looting.
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| This is exactly what our govt wants. These shop owners are too afraid to protect their own buildings due to lawsuits and jail time so they become dependent on govt to come to the rescue. We need the shop owners to hole up and shoot anyone coming into their shops with bad intentions, if they did this it would be over in one night. |
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Location: SW MO | This is nothing new remember Rodney King |
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| All I will say is I worked for a company that handed out "Obama phones". As a customer Care rep and then as a supervisor, I was NEVER treated as poorly by white people as I was black people. The mind set I saw (and actually was told this by more than one black person) was "This is Obamas world now. We can do whatever we want. You people have a job. I don't so you get to pay for me". Yet the media claims the white people are the racists. |
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Location: Kentucky | SKM - 2014-08-19 8:04 AM All I will say is I worked for a company that handed out "Obama phones". As a customer Care rep and then as a supervisor, I was NEVER treated as poorly by white people as I was black people. The mind set I saw (and actually was told this by more than one black person) was "This is Obamas world now. We can do whatever we want. You people have a job. I don't so you get to pay for me". Yet the media claims the white people are the racists.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
It's amazing how blinded by the media people are and they truly think that white people are the racists. When you work in these atmospheres, you see what's really happening. There is no such thing as "reverse racism". Racism IS racism.
I work downtown and see this crap every day. If you say something though, you are labeled a racist. You have to keep your mouth shut and get trampled on. They showed a clip on MSN yesterday where a white reporter was there with a newscrew and black protesters were throwing ROCKS at him. Now what the hell does that do? How does that help any situation? But he couldn't say anything to them or he would have been thrown to the wolves. It's like they are daring white people to say something to them. |
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Location: Silex, MO | I don't live very far from this mess but far enough, however I can tell you that of the 32 first arrest none of them where from Ferguson. They all came in and started looting and messing up stuff just to cause trouble. The young man is not as innocent as his family is trying to make him out to be and now you have so many groups here just stirring the pot each and every night because its unfair. You have to ask unfair to who? The business owners that your trashing, the kids that can not go to school. When the local stations interview someone its a joke they blame the white people and slavery. HUH???? That has nothing to do with what has happen.
That young man tried to take that cops gun when he stopped him and his friend after they had robbed a store. That much has come out. Now I don't know how much of that has come out on CNN, or any stations pass St. Louis. Of coarse they family lawyers are yelling that that is made up crap but the video tape date/time don't lie. He knew he had done something wrong when this all started. I am not saying he needed to die but crap happens in the heat of a moment when your a cop. |
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| Itsme - 2014-08-19 12:13 AM Both sides are jackasses, imagine being stopped by police all the time for little to no reason, im sure I would be doing more than looting.
Spoken just as much as a jackass as the rest of them!
How in the heck do you support looting and violence and expect good to come of it? Oh right...I think your one of the pot stirrers around here as well...why don't you go to Ferguson and jump right in.
On another note, I don't understand the "he's innocent, guaranteed" mentality. I don't understand how looting and throwing Molintov cocktails solves anything. I feel sorry for those people, and anyone who's become a victim down there. I don't feel sorry for the people who are being completely assinine and doing illegal things and getting gassed. Read this morning 2 were shot last night...didn't mention fatalities. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | The media shares blame in this mess. They need to STOP using the inflammatory headline " Black unarmed teenager killed by white cop" and actually report what we know to be true "6'4" 300# robbery suspect with violent crime history killed by officer during altercation that occured shortly after the strong arm robbery/assault of a shop owner was committed by the suspect." But...they won't do that as it doesn't get the ratings that the other angle does. Riots make for great live TV coverage.
The entitlement and false outrage of these people disgusts me. Most don't care what the truth or facts of the case might be. They see this as an opportunity to put it to the white people. Darn Racist sons of *#^&#*$&#&$. THEY are the racists and they somehow get a free pass. Worse yet they are destroying their own communities and eliminate any sympathy they might have garnered from folks like me if they had waited for the facts to come out and shown the restraint necessary until such time as justice could be served. No...they don't care about facts...they are looking for a payday...something for nothing...and an excuse to behave like animals.
Blacks are killing blacks daily all over...and yet that doesn't seem to matter one whit to these folks. It's not the white man keeping them down...it's their own actions that put them where they are today....and those same actions are going to keep them there...in their burned out looted neighborhood. So what if a lot of the looting etc is now being done by a bunch of outsiders. They are black outsiders and are doing this to other blacks. Where is the outrage from the black Furgeson folks and Al Sharpton over this? They are responsible for their own actions. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | 1. The media needs to leave period. Too many people trying to grab their 5 minutes of fame that are not residents there and will leave and go on about their business at some point and the residents of Ferguson will be left to deal.
2. How do these people have the time to demonstrate peacefully or otherwise for over a week? I could not do that and still have my job.
3. Anyone checked the census data for Ferguson? I heard someone speak to the number of blacks vs. the number of whites arrested in Ferguson. There are about 40% more blacks than whites in Ferguson according to the 2010 census data. Do the math.
4. Looting does nothing to express concern over what happened in Ferguson.
5. There are gaping holes in all of this that are yet to be filled in. I totally agree with Komet. I really believe someone got the whole thing on video and someone has it.
6. If this were not constantly being portrayed as a race issue it would never have been mentioned on CNN. FOX, etc. They do not give the same attention to the blacks killing blacks several times a week in Chicago.
8. There are many, many, innocent victims in this - all the way down to the owner of the beauty supply store where looting took place and she has decided to close her shop and leave. Her daily life was disrupted and will never be the same.
9. If the officer is in the wrong I hope he faces the maximum penalty. Everyone agrees there was an altercation at the officer's car involving a gun. If the man charged the officer the officer had rite to protect himself - people do not have to have to be armed with a weapon to kill someone - people are beat to death every day.
10. Listen to the guy that was with the man when he robbed to store. Listen to him closely - look at his lawyer's face while he is speaking - the puppeteer grins big when the puppet performs well.
11. FINALLY - who is benefiting from all of this??????? The lawyers - everyone you see with any involvement in the case has one. Don't think they are not being advised what to say and what not to say????? Don't think they are being groomed for their day in court?????
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| Itsme - 2014-08-19 12:15 AM
This is exactly what our govt wants. These shop owners are too afraid to protect their own buildings due to lawsuits and jail time so they become dependent on govt to come to the rescue. We need the shop owners to hole up and shoot anyone coming into their shops with bad intentions, if they did this it would be over in one night.
How can you guys dislike this? Too much truth?
Y'all want big govt to save you from the scary blackman? |
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