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| I have recently come across a yearling filly that would have Dash for Cash, Streakin' Six and Jackie Bee all on her papers, if I decide to get her and register her that is (parents are both registered). Genetically, I think she has the potential to be a great little prospect with those lines, but am concerned about her upbringing. This particular filly has been out in a pasture since she was born. She has only drank her mothers milk and ate native prairie and brome grasses since she was born. She has never been wormed, received any form of veterinary care, or even been handled for that matter. She looks to be pretty well put together, but personally, I don't have much experience with yearlings to compare her to anything. I'm worried about her growth being stunted. I'm afraid of putting the time and money into her, and it turns out she never "grows up" due to her care the first year of her life.
I'm just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience or has any idea as far as how such upbringing might affect one long term in regard to their health and performance. And no, I don't have any photos to post :(. Thanks!
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| I am definitely not the most knowledgable on here but my first reaction is if she has had acess to a wide variety of grasses she is being raised as nature intended and is probably pretty healthy. If she is being kept in a small pasture there might be concerns. |
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Location: Off to a barrel race... | I purchased my now 3 year old as a just turned 2 yar old and she was not handled much. She was halter "broke" for one day and didn't lead. She had also never had shots, feet done, clipped, bathed, tied, or hauled. In short she wasn't much farther along than the filly you are debating on purchasing. With those bloodlines and if the price is right I would take the chance on her. |
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Location: ND | I have no issue bringing home a yearling that's never been handled. I much prefer that over one that someone has spoiled & handled wrong as it's way easier to gentle one that it is to fix problems. It also wouldn't concern me that she's been turned out on pasture her whole life......she should know about & have respect for fences, be able to take care of herself in crummy weather, typically their feet wear nicely if they're in a big pasture & good grazing is a nice healthy diet. I'd rather have one that's been turned out over one that's been in a stall & been fed up hard...... |
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| OT, but regarding the same filly.... What are y'alls thoughts on her particular breeding (Dash For Cash, Streakin Six, Jackie Bee, Gold Fingers, Rare Jet and Cash Leader were the names that stuck out on her parents papers to me)? I quit running barrels to focus on tying goats and roping throughout high school and college rodeo but am wanting to get back into it and hopefully find a young one I could eventually rope and run barrels on. I'm not looking to win the world or anything... Just wanting something I could be competitive on at local jackpots, BBR's, Barrel Bashes, open and amateur rodeos, etc. Never had the kind of money it takes today to go out and buy the great ones, so "making" one is the route I'm focused on. I'm in no hurry but have never really followed what bloodlines were winning, producing what kinds of horses, etc. so I'm definitely curious what others opinions might be regarding her combination of race/cow blood. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SaraJean - 2014-08-25 8:28 PM I have no issue bringing home a yearling that's never been handled. I much prefer that over one that someone has spoiled & handled wrong as it's way easier to gentle one that it is to fix problems. It also wouldn't concern me that she's been turned out on pasture her whole life......she should know about & have respect for fences, be able to take care of herself in crummy weather, typically their feet wear nicely if they're in a big pasture & good grazing is a nice healthy diet. I'd rather have one that's been turned out over one that's been in a stall & been fed up hard......
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Location: Texas | With those lines I'd pick her up and try her. My favorite mare is a Jackie Bee mare. Although they can be very business like, but I love her. True grit, all they way. Heck if you don't want her I just might. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If the price is right, jump on it, shes got some of the best old lines in her. Jackie Bee, Streakin Six. Wowz |
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| batkitty - 2014-08-25 11:08 PM
With those lines I'd pick her up and try her. My favorite mare is a Jackie Bee mare. Although they can be very business like, but I love her. True grit, all they way. Heck if you don't want her I just might.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | The first stud we had was one we leased. His name was How D Deal. He was a How D Roman back to a Jackie Bee stud and his babies were born broke. They were almost too dead headed but made very good ranch horses. Very good dispositions. The race lines crossed on that should make yours a bit more lively.
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| Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 9:40 PM Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her.
That very well could have been the TB coming out. I had a daughter of Dean Miracle (by Streakin Six) that was a love bug, super easy keeper and just a neat mare. Also have a daughter of Sixarun that is a big bodied, big boned mare. She's a nerd, but loves people and an easy keeper. So far I really like the SS bloodlines. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July :( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Also I'm not going to lie, when I saw the words "grass fed" it made me think of like grass fed beef haha. Thought maybe you wanted to eat her!  |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-25 10:47 PM
Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 9:40 PM Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her.
That very well could have been the TB coming out. I had a daughter of Dean Miracle (by Streakin Six) that was a love bug, super easy keeper and just a neat mare. Also have a daughter of Sixarun that is a big bodied, big boned mare. She's a nerd, but loves people and an easy keeper. So far I really like the SS bloodlines.
Really?? This filly has Sixarun on her papers as well. Well... she will if I register her :) That's good to know/hear! I've never dealt with any TBs, which she has some lineage to, so I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect before jumping into this. My main concern is her health/upbringing still though. |
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| livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:55 PM
Also I'm not going to lie, when I saw the words "grass fed" it made me think of like grass fed beef haha. Thought maybe you wanted to eat her!
I was afraid people would think that but wasn't sure how to get peoples' attention regarding the issue! Haha whoops!
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| livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:52 PM
I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her ) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year ). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July : ( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.
her as a three year old:
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | health should be fine as long as she wasn't on dirt pastures. Here are my 2 babies from this year that are out of mares that get nothing but pasture. We only hay if it snows so deep they can't get to it or if we have had a bad drought. They get no grain other than a 1/2 bucket of oats to split between them when we check on them and their water situation. They are now on free choice Redmonds salt and 12:12 mineral. They haven't been vaccinated since we have owned them, some we have had for 15+ yrs. 2 mares haven't had their feet even picked up in 10yrs+. I halter break the babies when we wean in Oct and they are May babies. I am usually rubbing all over their head, neck and sides in 15-20 minutes the first day. It is mostly about disposition.
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 9:00 PM
livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:52 PM
I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her ) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year ). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July : ( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.
her as a three year old:
How tall did she end up? She looks pretty short (which you mentioned ) in that photo.
14hh but no one else in her family is above 15hh. I know the people who originally owned her sire and most of his line, and they're all short, stocky cow horses.
She's out of shape in this picture but this was taken in March of this year:
I don't think it has anything to do with her not being raised on "proper" minerals/grain/whatever. A horse can only grow as tall as they're meant to. If you can find out about how tall this filly's parents/or other family members are it might give you an idea of how tall she'll be, although it's no guarantee. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | This is my tubby gelding Ransom, and one of the last foals we had where we gave them the boot to pasture for the winter after they were halter broke. He wasn't grained and just lived on pasture until he was started under saddle as a 3yr old. His dam is 14.3-15 hands and his sire is 15.2. He grew to 15.3. Now we keep the babies in and grain them and play with them all winter and spring until green grass comes, then they get the boot to pasture.
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