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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | http://youtu.be/lXbGmiyDiiI
He's had time off for numerous small things (stifle, chiro, allergies, tied up on me once, hooves chipping, not riding because of lack of good fitting saddle) and I've not really been able to consistently run and work on getting with him as much as I'd like to. I've had him since end of April and this was about 10th competition run. I've looked back thru all my notes and I see that we need to work on our pockets, especially the 3rd barrel. It's hard to compare this run to any others I have on my YouTube since we've fixed minor things here and there. This is also our first run in a new bit I bought. I really like it better than the others I've had on him. I like that we have rate.
I feel as if my arms are flailing too much. I've shortned my reins and have better control over him than I did when they were much longer, but am I hindering him at this point?
The ground was deeper than usual and it reflected in all the times, but it was still a 1D horse that won so I'm happy with a 3D finish at this point! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm zipping up my 'thick skinned' suit!! We're attending a clinic in a couple of weeks and I'm really excited about that. I think he's a really nice horse (we're probably never going to win the 1D, but I can be happy with a "pretty" run) but I'm not the rider I was before I quit so I need all the help I can get!
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 The Worst Seller Ever
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Location: Oklahoma | To me he is taking too many strides at the barrels, and he only actually ran about 2 strides to 3rd and then home. You are "pumping" your arms a lot, but you are sitting on your butt. You are hustling with your arms, but not your body. The ground in that pen can be iffy anyway, but it looked like he had trouble on first, then just loafed though the rest of the pattern.
That made sense in my head, but I am not sure if it does after I typed it. |
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| he doesn't appear to give to your hands very much. He moves his whole front end when you pull instead of bending anywhere. Good or bad? Idk. I'm definitely not a pro at this LOL but I did notice he was very stiff. Maybe bit him up once a week or so in an oring snaffle and work on getting him more supple without having to be the bad guy?
I think if you could have gotten him by 1 or 2 more strides on the 2nd you would have come out a lot prettier. Maybe work on focusing on the fence and getting into the "go" form of body language to get to stretch out and go on by it.
you did good what looked like picking a spot and driving to it until about a horse length from the 3rd you appeared to safety up and go to the horn. I feel if you would have 2 handed bumped him and kept 2 hands for just 1 or 2 more steps then dropped to one and ask him to turn he may have rated just a touch better and came around a little smoother.
Body language wise you are pumping with your hands and not getting up in the "go" body position between the barrels. I think standing while trotting will help. It takes a lot of core muscle to keep up with on that has a lot of power. I think you need more body language less hand language :)
Over all I think the run looked good and you are obviously proud of how far you have come and honestly we don't know what kind of battles you have fought at home or with this horse to get this far so kudos. Keep up the hard work. I saw all of this because I have a horse currently running what some people may think is a circus act as a pattern but compared to what we started with its great LOL. As long as you are moving forwards, not backwards that is all that matters!!!
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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | I think everything you are concerned with in this video will be addressed on the 20th and 21st. It will be such a good thing for the two of you!
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | clover girl - 2014-09-04 2:01 PM To me he is taking too many strides at the barrels, and he only actually ran about 2 strides to 3rd and then home. You are "pumping" your arms a lot, but you are sitting on your butt. You are hustling with your arms, but not your body. The ground in that pen can be iffy anyway, but it looked like he had trouble on first, then just loafed though the rest of the pattern.
That made sense in my head, but I am not sure if it does after I typed it.
Thanks for the feedback! It's been tough trying to let him go. The first time I ever ran him I let him fly to first and I sat down, asked him to rate and then changed my mind and got off my butt to push him a stride more. He was already ready to turn.... and I went off the side! I've had a mental block on really letting him go hard to first (esp. since we blew the first barrel both days at the Shootout last month). He gets by just breezing thru down the alley and I think he thinks that's acceptable for the entire run. He's a very smart horse I'm going to have to learn to not quit riding otherwise he takes advantage of it. We had a terrible first barrel at Ada (video is also on my Youtube) and I was so mad (turned out to be a stifle problem) and I quit pushing him on the other barrels. Maybe his slip up on first last night got him thinking "Okay, I can take it easy"
I will try to get off my butt better inbetween the barrels and really hustle with more of my body!
Here's a video of an exhibition we did a few months ago.
http://youtu.be/EV3VIQPh-FU
Maybe and extra stride on the backside of 1st, but a breeze thru that I was extrememly happy with. I know he can turn like this... just need to figure it out when speed is added! lol
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-09-04 3:12 PM he doesn't appear to give to your hands very much. He moves his whole front end when you pull instead of bending anywhere. Good or bad? Idk. I'm definitely not a pro at this LOL but I did notice he was very stiff. Maybe bit him up once a week or so in an oring snaffle and work on getting him more supple without having to be the bad guy? I think if you could have gotten him by 1 or 2 more strides on the 2nd you would have come out a lot prettier. Maybe work on focusing on the fence and getting into the "go" form of body language to get to stretch out and go on by it. you did good what looked like picking a spot and driving to it until about a horse length from the 3rd you appeared to safety up and go to the horn. I feel if you would have 2 handed bumped him and kept 2 hands for just 1 or 2 more steps then dropped to one and ask him to turn he may have rated just a touch better and came around a little smoother. Body language wise you are pumping with your hands and not getting up in the "go" body position between the barrels. I think standing while trotting will help. It takes a lot of core muscle to keep up with on that has a lot of power. I think you need more body language less hand language :) Over all I think the run looked good and you are obviously proud of how far you have come and honestly we don't know what kind of battles you have fought at home or with this horse to get this far so kudos. Keep up the hard work. I saw all of this because I have a horse currently running what some people may think is a circus act as a pattern but compared to what we started with its great LOL. As long as you are moving forwards, not backwards that is all that matters!!! Good luck!!
Thanks, he's a very stiff/standup type of turning horse... good or bad, I can't say! Just what I've experienced and been told from his previous owner. I'm probably the world's worst about pushing to a spot on the fence, I see the barrel and that seems to be all my eyes can look at.  I'm still trying to get everything figured out with pockets and when to go to the horn... this certainly hasn't been like riding a bike and everything hasn't just happened so naturally like I was hoping! lol
I have zero core (need to put that gym membership to use....) and I never realized just how much I would need it! I'll certainly try the trotting/standing suggestion and hopefully it'll reduce my flailing arms. He's had prettier runs, but they were just breeze thrus. This is one of our best runs (barrels are up and nothing too wide) so I'm still pretty excited!
I bought a seasoned/finished horse so hopefully things wouldn't fall apart when we tried to run, but I'm the one falling apart! I'm too scared to really send him hard down the alley and I have terrible anxiety behind the alley that I know it transfers to him. I've only ever let him full out run once and that didn't end pretty on my end. He'll probably never transfer that speed inbetween barrels, but even if he did I know that I'm a long way from keeping up... I had much rather ask for crituques from my desk and not a hospital bed. (I've bruised both sides of ribs from letting him run hard and I eventually went to the doctor for x-rays to make sure nothing was actually broken.. and let me tell you... that sh!t's expensive!)
thanks so much for the feedback and good luck to you this weekend! 
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-04 3:20 PM I think everything you are concerned with in this video will be addressed on the 20th and 21st. It will be such a good thing for the two of you!
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The Worst Seller Ever
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Location: Oklahoma | Longneck - 2014-09-04 3:39 PM clover girl - 2014-09-04 2:01 PM To me he is taking too many strides at the barrels, and he only actually ran about 2 strides to 3rd and then home. You are "pumping" your arms a lot, but you are sitting on your butt. You are hustling with your arms, but not your body. The ground in that pen can be iffy anyway, but it looked like he had trouble on first, then just loafed though the rest of the pattern.
That made sense in my head, but I am not sure if it does after I typed it. Thanks for the feedback! It's been tough trying to let him go. The first time I ever ran him I let him fly to first and I sat down, asked him to rate and then changed my mind and got off my butt to push him a stride more. He was already ready to turn.... and I went off the side! I've had a mental block on really letting him go hard to first (esp. since we blew the first barrel both days at the Shootout last month). He gets by just breezing thru down the alley and I think he thinks that's acceptable for the entire run. He's a very smart horse I'm going to have to learn to not quit riding otherwise he takes advantage of it. We had a terrible first barrel at Ada (video is also on my Youtube) and I was so mad (turned out to be a stifle problem) and I quit pushing him on the other barrels. Maybe his slip up on first last night got him thinking "Okay, I can take it easy"
I will try to get off my butt better inbetween the barrels and really hustle with more of my body!
Here's a video of an exhibition we did a few months ago.
http://youtu.be/EV3VIQPh-FU
Maybe and extra stride on the backside of 1st, but a breeze thru that I was extrememly happy with. I know he can turn like this... just need to figure it out when speed is added! lol
He looked a LOT better there. Much more fluid. :) You are still on your butt the whole time, but I think that will come with confidence. I know I rode on my butt a lot when I was getting my confidence back.
OK who are you and Miss Shannon going to a clinic with? |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | clover girl - 2014-09-04 4:11 PM Longneck - 2014-09-04 3:39 PM clover girl - 2014-09-04 2:01 PM To me he is taking too many strides at the barrels, and he only actually ran about 2 strides to 3rd and then home. You are "pumping" your arms a lot, but you are sitting on your butt. You are hustling with your arms, but not your body. The ground in that pen can be iffy anyway, but it looked like he had trouble on first, then just loafed though the rest of the pattern.
That made sense in my head, but I am not sure if it does after I typed it. Thanks for the feedback! It's been tough trying to let him go. The first time I ever ran him I let him fly to first and I sat down, asked him to rate and then changed my mind and got off my butt to push him a stride more. He was already ready to turn.... and I went off the side! I've had a mental block on really letting him go hard to first (esp. since we blew the first barrel both days at the Shootout last month). He gets by just breezing thru down the alley and I think he thinks that's acceptable for the entire run. He's a very smart horse I'm going to have to learn to not quit riding otherwise he takes advantage of it. We had a terrible first barrel at Ada (video is also on my Youtube) and I was so mad (turned out to be a stifle problem) and I quit pushing him on the other barrels. Maybe his slip up on first last night got him thinking "Okay, I can take it easy"
I will try to get off my butt better inbetween the barrels and really hustle with more of my body!
Here's a video of an exhibition we did a few months ago.
http://youtu.be/EV3VIQPh-FU
Maybe and extra stride on the backside of 1st, but a breeze thru that I was extrememly happy with. I know he can turn like this... just need to figure it out when speed is added! lol
OK who are you and Miss Shannon going to a clinic with?
Breaking the Mold with Paul Humphrey & Levi Olson. I'm a first timer, but she's a veteran! |
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The Advice Guru
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| You said you have no core strength
You don't need a gym membership just practice planking when you wake up and when you go to bed. I have found this is the best workout for the core |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | cheryl makofka - 2014-09-04 6:34 PM You said you have no core strength You don't need a gym membership just practice planking when you wake up and when you go to bed. I have found this is the best workout for the core
ahh, good ole planking! The longest seconds/minutes of my life! lol
Thanks, I'll start doing them more frequently! |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Longneck - 2014-09-04 5:29 PM clover girl - 2014-09-04 4:11 PM Longneck - 2014-09-04 3:39 PM clover girl - 2014-09-04 2:01 PM To me he is taking too many strides at the barrels, and he only actually ran about 2 strides to 3rd and then home. You are "pumping" your arms a lot, but you are sitting on your butt. You are hustling with your arms, but not your body. The ground in that pen can be iffy anyway, but it looked like he had trouble on first, then just loafed though the rest of the pattern.
That made sense in my head, but I am not sure if it does after I typed it. Thanks for the feedback! It's been tough trying to let him go. The first time I ever ran him I let him fly to first and I sat down, asked him to rate and then changed my mind and got off my butt to push him a stride more. He was already ready to turn.... and I went off the side! I've had a mental block on really letting him go hard to first (esp. since we blew the first barrel both days at the Shootout last month). He gets by just breezing thru down the alley and I think he thinks that's acceptable for the entire run. He's a very smart horse I'm going to have to learn to not quit riding otherwise he takes advantage of it. We had a terrible first barrel at Ada (video is also on my Youtube) and I was so mad (turned out to be a stifle problem) and I quit pushing him on the other barrels. Maybe his slip up on first last night got him thinking "Okay, I can take it easy"
I will try to get off my butt better inbetween the barrels and really hustle with more of my body!
Here's a video of an exhibition we did a few months ago.
http://youtu.be/EV3VIQPh-FU
Maybe and extra stride on the backside of 1st, but a breeze thru that I was extrememly happy with. I know he can turn like this... just need to figure it out when speed is added! lol
OK who are you and Miss Shannon going to a clinic with?
This will be my 3rd clinic with them Brandy and I LOVE them both! You should come! |
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