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| Hi,
I was wondering who all runs short horses or who has competed on them in the past? I am talking about 14h to 15h? How did they seem to do in big pens? And did you have to change your training style when working with them? All my horses have been 16h so this is something new to me! Any input appreciated! |
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       Location: Montana | Mine I measured just yesterday is 14.3 hh (59 inches with a tape) and she is just being seasoned. I think she does a little better in smaller pens, but she does pretty good in bigger pens too. I haven't really gotten to see what she can do yet as we have about 14 races total under our belt so far. But she is clocking currently betwen 2.5-3 seconds off some local WPRA/NRA horses who clock 15.2 -15.3 indoors, 17.2 outdoors/standard, which I feel is pretty good. I don't know why you would have to change your training style other than possibly because they are shorter, you might have to wait a stride or so longer before you get to the barrel. However, look at Stingray, Sherry Cervi's horse...she can really cut it up!!!
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| My mare is about 14.2-14.2 but built like a little tank. She tears up little pens and is usually somewhere in the 1D. Bigger pens she sometimes falls in the crack or is at the top of the 2D. I think it has more to do with the conformation and will to run than the height. I love my girl. I've never ran a horse over 15hh. |
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| Christy Loflin, she just won on a 28 second pattern...for the 3rd time in a row! |
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        Location: Oklahoma | Hot Shot was 14.2 or something like that, Stingray is 14.3, I had a gray horse that was solid 1D anywhere that was 14.1. I actually prefer the shorter horses. Easier to get on and easier to saddle (now that I'm old). It's not the size of the horse, it's the size of the heart in the horse. |
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| I think June Holeman bought a short horse, im not sure how short though... |
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| They can definetely be competitive. height has nothing to do with it if you ask me. I dont think theres much change in training other than change your drills to be more comparable to their size (pockets and such).
I now run a 16.1 appendix but I ran the little horses for years and they were very tough to beat. |
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| Thanks everyone for your input! I definitely think confirmation, speed, and heart have a lot to do with it. Very helpful to hear about other peoples horses. My little mare has a lot of heart and go, so hopefully she will make a good one! And i forgot about Christy Loflins horse Movin, if that little mare can win the Pendleton roundup size must not have all to do with it!! |
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    Location: Oklahoma | I think it has more to do with the length of their underline rather than their heigth. The underline is where they get their stride length from (I think).
I have a short horse that is really quick indoors, but she lacks the stride to keep up with the big horses outside. She is alway right at a second off in the big patterns, and 1-2D in the smaller patterns. |
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        Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Mine is 14.1 only thing I've noticed is she can't run in deep dirt. I don't know if it's a short horse thing or just hear but the harder the dirt the better she can turn. She LOVES to run and I think she likes the bigger pens better than small.get used to your toes to literally be in the dirt when they turn. Short horses may not have a big stride but that can turn a lot tighter than big tall horses. She has hit barrels and ripped the conchos off my saddle a few times.
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  Location: louisiana | PalominoLuvr2241 - 2014-09-14 9:52 PM
Hi,
I was wondering who all runs short horses or who has competed on them in the past? I am talking about 14h to 15h? How did they seem to do in big pens? And did you have to change your training style when working with them? All my horses have been 16h so this is something new to me! Any input appreciated!
I run one, since I was in high school and he loves out door pens since he can stretch out an run but then also an jam up horse for indoor |
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| My first barrel horse was 14.1. We did pretty decent-then I sold him.
He ran 8th in the NBHA Youth World Finals.
Just placed 12th on Friday night at the Best of the Best out of 600+ entries, and ran a 15.541 on Sunday in the open, and last time I talked to his rider she was waiting to hear how she placed, but had she ran in the American Qualifier class she would have qualified with the 15.541 time she ran in open.
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       Location: Georgia | I run two short mares. One is 14.2 and the other is 14.3. The shorter mare is a major drama queen in deep ground. Doesnt want to rate hard and refuses to fire. But then again, she is a drama queen about most things. Very quirky mare. The other one doesnt have her best runs in deep pens, but works and gets through it. Neither of them do great in big pens - but thats mainly because they both have a tendency to get strung out. Dont think that has much to do with being short. I've rode rode bigger horses and I really prefer the "short horse style". You feel every stride, every little movement and you have to be able to stay with them. Big horses are easier to catch up to in my opinion. Little horses will leave you before you even have a chance to look at the next barrel. It's a very fun ride!
Only downfall is they will make you think you won the whole dang race because their little legs move so fast. Dont know how many times I have been stunned by what the clock read LOL. |
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   Location: Cocoa, Florida | clover girl - 2014-09-15 11:24 AM
I think it has more to do with the length of their underline rather than their heigth. The underline is where they get their stride length from (I think).
I have a short horse that is really quick indoors, but she lacks the stride to keep up with the big horses outside. She is alway right at a second off in the big patterns, and 1-2D in the smaller patterns.
She said it perfect, my mare is 14.3 she may make it to 15 hands but just barley, she's 4 now. She has a long underline and can stride out as far as my 15.2 leggy gelding!! She is going to be a jam up horse, already running 1 second off.

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   Location: Cocoa, Florida | Whiteboy - 2014-09-16 12:22 PM
I love packin sixes!
Yes, I bought this one to sell but I fell in love!!!! I have big plans for this filly, never knew much about the packin sixes, I liked streakin six bred horses so I bought her and don't regret it!!! |
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| Love smaller horses! They can really wrap a barrel. I ran a mare that was 14.3 and she was winning races. |
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      Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | im not a fan..i have one and she is 14 nothing..........was told she was taller when i bought her.......must measure different in texas..lol ..........i feel like gigantor on her..i much prefer 15 and above
mine gets buried in the deep ground to........but she doesn't lack try..:)...and she is one heck of a heel horse (to bad i cant hit the side of a barn with a rope..lol)
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| Do you think shorter horses have a harder time in deep ground?
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| My 14.3 mare. She could flat out FLY. Probably has something to do with her mile long back too though :) 1st picture is next to a POA (granted she's behind him, but she's still short). Unfortunately, she developed navicular and had to be put down. Miss her all the time!
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