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Location: Texas | Okay so I switched saddles and this one fits my horse SO much better. He left his first barrel harder then he ever has before and it has been throwing me straight up into the air.. How do I fix this? |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | Core strength since you can't change your saddle (as in deeper seat and higher cantle). Maybe changing stirrup length?
I just want to say... I'm glad you're addressing this! I feel like so many younger girls think this is "cool" and look like a certain pro. |
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Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | Longneck - 2014-09-15 10:00 PM Core strength since you can't change your saddle (as in deeper seat and higher cantle). Maybe changing stirrup length? I just want to say... I'm glad you're addressing this! I feel like so many younger girls think this is "cool" and look like a certain pro.
Yes, I understand it is correct to be forward when leaving the turn but I am literally being thrown from my saddle and can't keep contact just in this one spot. This is just a borrowed saddle, is there a certain one that really helps you keep your seat, without feeling trapped? And should my stirrups be longer im assuming? |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | outrundaizy - 2014-09-15 10:31 PM
Longneck - 2014-09-15 10:00 PM Core strength since you can't change your saddle (as in deeper seat and higher cantle). Maybe changing stirrup length? I just want to say... I'm glad you're addressing this! I feel like so many younger girls think this is "cool" and look like a certain pro.
Yes, I understand it is correct to be forward when leaving the turn but I am literally being thrown from my saddle and can't keep contact just in this one spot. This is just a borrowed saddle, is there a certain one that really helps you keep your seat, without feeling trapped? And should my stirrups be longer im assuming?
I honestly can't say, but I'm sure someone can help you out. I ride in the crown c because it helps me centered, but I'm also not on a powerhouse! I test rode a powerhouse in my old billy cook and I'm pretty sure clinching the horn was the only thing that kept me from flying off the back end! I also had no core at that time though. I would think letting out the stirrups out a notch or two would help keep you down, but if that's gonna hinder your riding abilities then I'd go for a more secure saddle. I don't ride in a double j, but I hear a lot of people like the pozzis and I've liked the ones I've sat in. The Doube J pro saddle looks pretty secure, but I've never actually seen anyone ride in one or sat in one myself.
Edited by Longneck 2014-09-15 11:08 PM
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Location: Red Raiderland | Are you sure the seat size isnt too small? I don't have any idea what saddle brand you are currently borrowing but if you could try a Caldwell , of course in the size to fit you AND your horse, you will be surprised how centered these saddles can keep you. Just a thought. I know a lot of people in our area that have tried Caldwells and now use nothing else. Most are pretty good riders that are now even better. I've said it before, they put you in the sweet spot on your horse's back. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Maybe trying holding the horn for another stride? |
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 Wishing on a star
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Location: Where if you don't like the weather...wait 5 mins! | Make your core into a C....and hang the F on. |
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Texas Tenderheart
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Location: Red Raiderland | BrlRcrMT - 2014-09-16 12:10 AM Make your core into a C....and hang the F on.
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Location: In a happy place | Kaycee - 2014-09-15 11:45 PM Are you sure the seat size isnt too small? I don't have any idea what saddle brand you are currently borrowing but if you could try a Caldwell , of course in the size to fit you AND your horse, you will be surprised how centered these saddles can keep you. Just a thought. I know a lot of people in our area that have tried Caldwells and now use nothing else. Most are pretty good riders that are now even better. I've said it before, they put you in the sweet spot on your horse's back.
This is exactly what I was going to say. I think the first thing is your seat size is too small. And I would highly suggest a Caldwell. |
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| Kaycee - 2014-09-15 11:45 PM Are you sure the seat size isnt too small? I don't have any idea what saddle brand you are currently borrowing but if you could try a Caldwell , of course in the size to fit you AND your horse, you will be surprised how centered these saddles can keep you. Just a thought. I know a lot of people in our area that have tried Caldwells and now use nothing else. Most are pretty good riders that are now even better. I've said it before, they put you in the sweet spot on your horse's back.
Ditto. You have to be sure you have the right tree too for your horse. I have a rocket for one horse and an ultra rocket on order. The rocket fits my one horse like a glove and I ride so much better in it, it is amazing the difference. I ride the rocket on my other 2 and although it fits them as in it does not make them sore, it doesn't feel quite as good as on the other horse. |
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| Another trick is to keep your elbow close to your body. It will help balance your body. |
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 A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Definitely going to try some of these for myself. I have the pop up issue too. I know most of mine is from being fat and out of shape. LOL
It was worse before I switched my seat out for a bigger one. I went from a 15 to a 16 and BIG difference. I was riding IN the saddle with the 16 instead of ON in with he 15. The cantle can act like a spring board if you're not IN the saddle. And lengthening my stirrups actually helped. Just don't make them too long or you can't use them at all. |
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 The Worst Seller Ever
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Location: Oklahoma | outrundaizy - 2014-09-15 9:39 PM Okay so I switched saddles and this one fits my horse SO much better. He left his first barrel harder then he ever has before and it has been throwing me straight up into the air.. How do I fix this?
Keep your body as a C shape. Then you have to try to beat your horse out of the turn. On a powerhouse, you can't let them carry you out or you will get thrown around.
I try to be forward preparing for "lift off" as my horse hits her pivot point. If I am behind the saddle smacks me really hard, but if i am ahead we shoot out with no issue. |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | You have to consciously change your body position in slow work so your muscle memory takes on.
When you get to the point in the turn where it's time to leave the barrel, pull up on your horn, shift your weight forward. I also have my weight in the outside stirrup.
I'm actually not a fan of the C shaped torso. I want my core tight and strong. I want to be able to leave the barrel, forward, pushing to the next one. I want my back straight and my shoulders controlled. If your shoulders get in front of you next thing you know they can drop and you will shift your horse whichever direction your shoulder goes.
Here's some videos of the horse who has literally thrown me behind the cantle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-CJwWnmB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oadUUzmi41U |
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Location: Missouri | I was getting spanked by my cantle constantly until I finally started working out my core. I did crunches, leg lifts, and finished with a plank. I noticed a huge difference in my riding after a short time.
eta: I ride with short stirrups and did not change the length. I just needed more strength. Of course, it's different for all of us!
Edited by just4fun 2014-09-16 10:25 AM
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Location: Bandera, TX | I'm another Caldwell user. I've had every type of saddle made and really like the caldwell's. But, I will tell you, you can and will get thrown until you've perfected your muscle memory and timing issues with your horse. It takes runs and commitment on your part to increase your core strength.
I wish my husband would have had a video of my run for you to laugh at from this past weekend. I was whiplash! My colt left the first and I wasn't quite ready for it. I caught my cantle and clawed back aboard. I will tell you this; its not barrel racing until you have a horse trying to leave you at the barrels! ( Hubby was ready to go to another race, I begged for mercy and to take me home!) I will ride my stirrups down a notch the next run. Make sure that your supple and stretched properly just as you would for your horse. Also, when you get into the turn don't grip with the thighs that sends you straight up, use the lower legs only. For my 45th birthday a few years ago I thought I would enter a bareback halter race on my futurity filly. My husband was laughing so hard but you could hear him and Booger holler "ride indian ride". Most "cowgirl" up I "indian" up.
So glad that your committed to getting the right fit for your horse and then for yourself. It will all come together and you will learn lots from the experience.
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Location: Kansas | BrlRcrMT - 2014-09-16 12:10 AM Make your core into a C....and hang the F on.
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| Push with the palm of your hand on the horn, not pull really push. And instead of pushing on your feet to sit deep, lift your knees (not really high you cant "see" the change but can sure feel it)
Or just get up faster?? IDK lol |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The time I poped up in my saddle was because the twist was to wide for me, I bought a great fitting saddle for my gelding and was a good one, but not a good fit for me to wide in the twist area and I would pop up no matter what I did. So back to saddle shopping for me, so tryed a Deb Sibley wide fit for my gelding, fits him great and I love how I set in it, and another saddle that I love is my Caldwell Pro Max, its a great fit for the both of us.
Sometimes the saddle is a good fit for your horse but dont mean the saddle will be a great fit for you, if you are poping up like you say you are then I would shop somemore. I also like my Double J Pozzi that I have, really sets you in the right spot.
What brand of saddle are you riding in that you are trying out?
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-09-16 10:53 AM
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