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| I have recently found out my good mare has come down with a case of EPM, blood tests were sent and tried. She stumbled on her back end several times this summer but I didn't think much about it at the time. I think we have caught it early enough and just a slight case, however I want to know opinions and results of people who have treated for EPM in the past!! Cost isn't a factor, I want the best treatment with the best results and lowest chance of relapsing. |
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| I have a gelding, who is just not quiet right. And sent thetest off last monday. I got,the results faxed to me as the vet was not in, it is neg/neg. He has all the nero, he has seen 5/6 vets. But he cant get into ground any more. He has had more injections and he is no better, been tested for pssm. Does not want to ride and the more you work him the more he sulls up. He is such a sweet horse. On the east cost there are a bunch of vets that have delt with this. The more i read the less i know. I spent all day yesturday on the internet have more questions than answers.
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| Has anyone on here done dr. Ellerson treatment from florida, oroquin 10.
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Location: Bandera, TX | Go Misty Go, should chime in for you as she has....
If you have access to SMZ's and levamasole I would start there while you wait on a formula to put your horse on for the 'month' treatment time.
I believe the best horse in the country died this year from EPM it was not showing on the labs but once the necrospy was done it was there. |
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| daisycake123 - 2014-09-22 6:08 AM
Has anyone on here done dr. Ellerson treatment from florida, oroquin 10.
My vet recommended using Orogin, which is somewhat new but e says he has had really good results with it. It is a 10 day treatment from a lady in Florida. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I used Oroquin 10 with great results, however my mare just relapsed... see my other post from a few minutes ago.... |
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| Several years ago we treated one with IV Diclazuril for 5-7 days along with 30 days of I think it was sulfa meds. At that time my vet said that was his treatment of choice and he'd seen the best results with it. |
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| I am checking with my vet to see if this is the same treatment or if they are actually different. I have Orogin ordered, which is a 10 dY treatment of pills from Dr. Ellison in Florida. |
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| Jenbabe - 2014-09-22 8:23 AM
Several years ago we treated one with IV Diclazuril for 5-7 days along with 30 days of I think it was sulfa meds. At that time my vet said that was his treatment of choice and he'd seen the best results with it.
Yes the IV drip would be my next choice as I know it has had good results also, but I also heard that it's very hard on the horse? |
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| How long was she clean before she relapsed? |
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| How much does the Orogin cost? I had a lady tell me about it and she told me to try it. Is there a website or something? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Ask your vet to get it through www.pathogenes.com It is $200 plus whatever your vet will tag on to it. |
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| Acutt22 - 2014-09-22 8:49 AM
Jenbabe - 2014-09-22 8:23 AM
Several years ago we treated one with IV Diclazuril for 5-7 days along with 30 days of I think it was sulfa meds. At that time my vet said that was his treatment of choice and he'd seen the best results with it.
Yes the IV drip would be my next choice as I know it has had good results also, but I also heard that it's very hard on the horse?
We actually did the treatment at home and our mare tolerated it fine. However, I don't believe that our mare's neurologic issues were caused by EPM. She had a heat stroke and became neurologic. She tested positive for EPM so we decided to try the treatment in case that was the cause of her problems. She never came out of her issues, but I honestly didn't expect her to based on the cause of her symptoms. So I don't know if the treatment would be hard on a horse that actually has EPM. But our vet didn't seem too concerned about us treating her at home. I've heard that the first couple days of treatment are really hard on them, but then they improve greatly. And when this was said it was about all treatments not one in particular. |
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| panamasgold - 2014-09-22 9:20 AM
How much does the Orogin cost? I had a lady tell me about it and she told me to try it. Is there a website or something?
Misty is right. I had my blood tests sent to the Pathogenes Inc. lab in FL, which is who specific recommend the Orogin. However, my vet had recommended orogin also before the tests were even sent off. It is fairly new, but have seen some good results with it! It's going to cost me $250 for the full 10 days, then we will re-test after treatment to see what levels changed. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | I am confused as to why you dont think she had EPM when you say she in fact tested positive? I know the heat stroke (or any stress) can trigger the EPM. And in all EMP- the central nervous symptom damages can not be reversed. You can only hope to stop the damage.
Anyhow- if money were not an object, I would use Marquis under the care of a vet. Oriquin is not FDA approved although I applaud her efforts for her studies and have tried the pills recently as a last ditch effort.
There is a very informative video (about 45 min long) on The Horse website from April of this year- very informative. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | I used Oroquin 10 compounded paste and had PHENOMINAL results in February 2013. My mare had been not right for a while, but went undiagnosed by multiple vets for at least two years. Went full blown neurologic--think 8 year old mare walking like a newborn foal that doesn't know where it's feet are. We treated her with anti-inflammatories for the few days it took to get the meds, and once meds were started I noticed a remarkable improvement after just a few days.
I entered her 6 weeks post treatment, and it did take a couple of runs to get her confidence back. It was a 3 day weekend run, and she was mid 4D the first run, took a whole second off the second run to get in the middle of the 2D, and another 2/10ths for the final day to barely miss 2D money.
I was very impressed with the Oroquin 10, and really liked that it is so safe. I know that one of my mare's triggers is her transitional heat cycles, so I discussed it with my vet and we decided to be proactive this spring, and we treated her again the first week of March this year. She wasn't having any problems, but my vet said it wouldn't hurt her, and could prevent problems. I maintain mine on AE Detox, and double her up for times of stress, such as over night hauling. I also have to keep her on a pretty regular chiro schedule, because she can sometimes get out in her pelvis and poll. She's been running in the top 10-12% even at big races, usually landing in the top part of the 2D. She did make a 1D 2nd place run yesterday. |
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| TurnLane - 2014-09-22 9:46 AM
I am confused as to why you dont think she had EPM when you say she in fact tested positive? I know the heat stroke (or any stress) can trigger the EPM. And in all EMP- the central nervous symptom damages can not be reversed. You can only hope to stop the damage.
Anyhow- if money were not an object, I would use Marquis under the care of a vet. Oriquin is not FDA approved although I applaud her efforts for her studies and have tried the pills recently as a last ditch effort.
There is a very informative video (about 45 min long) on The Horse website from April of this year- very informative.
It's been long enough ago that I don't remember the specifics, but I was told that many horses are exposed and will show a positive test. This mare's symptoms showed up after the heat stroke and there was never any improvement after treatment. We did two different treatments and got no response. She may have in fact had EPM, but with how severe her symptoms were after the heat stroke I don't think they were caused by EPM.
We started out with a set of injectable meds from Dr. Brunk in. Nebraska along with sulfa meds. We went this rout because the first vet that saw her wanted to use Marquis but this mare was a bear to give oral meds to and I was afraid more would end up on the ground than in her mouth. We saw no change, which is when we went to a different vet who recommended the Diclazuril and sulfa meds. Again, saw no change. When this mare went down she became neurologic in all 4 legs and had a head tilt. She never came out of it. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Acutt22 - 2014-09-22 8:35 AM panamasgold - 2014-09-22 9:20 AM How much does the Orogin cost? I had a lady tell me about it and she told me to try it. Is there a website or something? Misty is right. I had my blood tests sent to the Pathogenes Inc. lab in FL, which is who specific recommend the Orogin. However, my vet had recommended orogin also before the tests were even sent off. It is fairly new, but have seen some good results with it! It's going to cost me $250 for the full 10 days, then we will re-test after treatment to see what levels changed.
This is the one I was going to go with too. It seems to be a popular choice. |
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| I have a mare that developed EPM as a later yearling. It was a horrible case. We treated her with Marquis ! At the time insurance paid for it. EMP is not something to be take lightly treatment should be started immediAtely. My mare came back 100% I sometimes think she is not as big as she could have been but she is the best horse I have hAd and shows no signs of ever being sick. |
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