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| i bought a gelding with a alley issue. super nice gelding, runs 1d, fancy broke. will run in anything and run the same thing every time. but his alley way problem is bad… and it is getting worse. He will walk in the arena, lope circles, stop back, etc no problem but once you ask him to go for a run its all hell breaks loose. well today it got really bad. he decided to run back to trailer, and rear up and we almost caught the end of my flat bed trailer. It is getting so scary i don't know what to do. he isn't hurting, doesn't need chiro. i do feed a 13% protein !2% fat feed. i have NO GRASS so i HAVE to feed a feed with high fat. i keep him legged up (hot walker) and thats it. no tuning no nothing but i don't know what to do. please someone give me some kind of idea?? i have thought about just selling him but don't know where to price him at with his problem? but like i said he is a 1D horse if you can get him in the alley. please someone help. any supplements, etc? some said resurpen in the muscle every 28 days?? HELP!! |
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Miracle in the Making
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| ok you lost me if he does everything nice 4xcept when you ask for a run why were u running him at home? |
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| i don't run him at home. ever. I had someone come look at him today and he reared up, refused etc. he was completely fine until asked to cruise through. this was the first time he had ever reared up and acted so bad. so i am trying to stop it before it becomes a habit. i was told he had a "slight" alley issue but this isn't so "slight" |
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I just read the headlines
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| I may have misunderstood you: so, you only ride him to run barrels at home and in competition? His exercise otherwise is a hot walker? That sounds like you are blowing him up. If he is really broke, why don't you ride him away from the arena and quit working the barrels on him. And as for the alley problem, work him out of the alley and let him catch his breath in the alley and don't run him until he calms down. That may take awhile. |
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| no no no.. lol i never work him at home. i only put him on the hot walker at home to keep him legged up. and when i want to go run somewhere i take him. i never exhib, i warm up away from the arena. i keep him as calm as possible. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Your horse is blown up, he needs to be taken off barrels and just trail ride for a long while, I would keep him away from the arena, sounds like to me that's all the riding you do on him is arena, and now hes burned out,, Sorry this is the way it sounds to me  |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| Do you know his history, how he got blown up?? Was he run too much or while hurting? We had a mare, worked great for about a year then had alley issues. We did not blow her up, had her vetted several times. She started rearing up and kicking. I would not put my girls on her anymore and turned her out. Past owners tracked us down, wanted to give her a retirement home. Told us how much she won for them but they had to drag her in with another horse while someone on the ground whipped her. I was disgusted. Sometimes horses have a good reason for what they do but none needs to risk getting hurt. My trainer has turned around several blown up horses and turned them back into winners but it takes her a year at the minimum. |
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I just read the headlines
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| Somehow you need to make the alley way a good place to be for him. I used to take my horse in the alley and just stand there during drags and fed him a few cookies and have even gotten off and loosened my cinch in the alleyway, much like I have seen ropers do to their horses in the roping box. I have also worked them away from the arena then walked up and down the alley to catch their breath. |
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| for the post part i know his past. he started acting like this and was taken to girl for her to fix, i tracked her down she fixed him. took her a long time just taking him to shows showing him he didn't have to always work etc and he was fine, girl sold him to the people i just bought him from. They ran him consistently never had any problems. i don't run every weekend. not even every month. its not like i take him and run him every single where. and i do trail ride, i don't ever take him in the arena. i trail ride, long trot up my road sometimes, hot walker or lunging. i try to switch it up. |
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 Party Girl
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2014-10-16 4:33 PM no no no.. lol i never work him at home. i only put him on the hot walker at home to keep him legged up. and when i want to go run somewhere i take him. i never exhib, i warm up away from the arena. i keep him as calm as possible.
I think you need to do a little more than just put him on the walker to keep him legged up. I would be going for some nice trail rides or in the mountains or something. I think he is getting worse because he is associating you riding him to running since that is the only time you are on his back. |
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The Advice Guru
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| If I was this horse I would be grumpy too.
My guess the horse has depression, and also ulcers to top it off as he does not have the ability to graze.
Ulcers can exacerbate alley issues.
You say the horse is sound, how do you know that?
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Have you had him to a lameness locator and a good vet?
Otherwise, pretty much everything you've said indicates a blown up horse that needs a different job for at least a year.
Do you have video? |
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Sock Snob
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| I would vet him and treat for ulcers start riding and doing different things. Take hime to,shows ride in the arena and get off of him in the alley you may even ace him to relax him make that alley his friend, even at big shows ride him hard get him the holding pen get off give him a cookie, dont ride long but do,it several times. But if he is hurting or has ulcers you are defeating the purpose.
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| i just bought him 2 weeks ago. i know he's sound because our vet told us so. which is a very nice vet. he did x-rays lameness exams etc. down to his eyes being dilated so they could make sure nothing was wrong there. he is not un sound. if i decide to give him time off what should i do? turn him out or ride him? he is a little spooky sometimes. i have a huge 102 acre lot with some cows and bucking horses i can turn him out in? I've never had a "blown up" horse. Also, i don't have any videos. Today was the first day he acted like this. Normally he just spins around once and walks right in. but like i said i don't run a lot. maybe once a month sometimes 2 literally lol |
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| sorry actually almost 3 weeks ago**** |
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 Chasin my Dream
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Location: Alberta | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2014-10-16 6:49 PM i just bought him 2 weeks ago. i know he's sound because our vet told us so. which is a very nice vet. he did x-rays lameness exams etc. down to his eyes being dilated so they could make sure nothing was wrong there. he is not un sound. if i decide to give him time off what should i do? turn him out or ride him? he is a little spooky sometimes. i have a huge 102 acre lot with some cows and bucking horses i can turn him out in? I've never had a "blown up" horse. Also, i don't have any videos. Today was the first day he acted like this. Normally he just spins around once and walks right in. but like i said i don't run a lot. maybe once a month sometimes 2 literally lol
IMO giving a horse time off can still mean riding him, I do everything with my horses, trail ride, chase cows, work auction mart....if you have 102 acres go just ride in that field, get him away and spend time together! I would also consider if what he's being fed is proper for the amount of riding he's getting......good luck! |
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Location: Canada | Okay if you bought the horse two weeks ago you are likely doing something accidentially that is setting him off. You two don't have a partnership and you need someone on the ground who can coach you with him. Can you get a trainer or coach to safely help you? Find someone who is experienced and not just someone who is inexpensive.
If he didn't act like this with his previous rider find out what he was fed and how he was worked and see if there are any changes you can make there.
I'd have your saddle and bit checked to make sure that fits and start treating him for ulcers. |
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 Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | It sounds like you've brought a problem sad to say. And yes you can try respeine or fluphenazine. It may help with your problem. |
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| okay. i will treat for ulcers and see what happens. thank you for everyones help! |
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| I am not getting this straight. You have only had him for almost 3 weeks yet you talk about all the stuff you do to leg him up but then say he only gets on the hot walker. Huh? You just bought him a few weeks ago and he just freaked on you WHILE you were showing him to someone to buy?? Double huh?  |
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