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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Well, seems as though someone is going to step up and hold the owners accountable for bad test on their horses!!! http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/new-mexico-stewards-scratch-horse-from-rich-futurity-due-to-owners-fourth-drug-violation/ |
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Location: Online | Finally!! These owners need to be banned from horse racing. If they insist on drugging they should go to Mexican match races. It won't matter how many trainers these owners go through, they will continue to drug their horses. I am still wondering how they got their money for the All American. It was obvious that horse was on something. I just wonder what it was that didn't show up on the test.
I wish the owners would get repremanded just as much as the trainer. More often than not the owner is pushing so hard to win that they insist the trainer do anything possible to win. |
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Location: NE Texas | Good for the Stewards and the NM Racing Commission! That is definitely a step in the right direction!!!! Thanks for sharing, total performance!!!!!  |
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Location: Madill Ok | And this came out yesterday regarding the $972,000 Los Alamitos Super Derby! Doc Allred is not Playin. WOW!!
SUPER DERBY RESCHEDULED (courtesy of TRACK's Monday Report)
> Los Alamitos Race Course chairman Dr. Ed Allred called TRACK Magazine Monday (October 27) morning and told Ben Hudson that he is rescheduling the final of the Los Alamitos Super Derby G1 for the weekend of November 8-9.
Citing irregularities in testing on some of the horses that
qualifiedfor the final of the $972,100 race that was scheduled for
this Saturday evening, Dr. Allred told TRACK, "We are also doing
further testing on the horses with the 11th through 30th qualifying
times in the trials. We must have all horses in the race with clean
tests."
Trainer Eloy Navarro qualified eight horses for the Super Derby,
including fastest qualifier Foose Cash SR $825,670. Foose Cash SR won
the Los Alamitos Two Million Futurity G1.
The winner of the Los Alamitos Super Derby earns a spot in the
$600,000 Champion of Champions G1 that will be run at Los Alamitos on
December 13.
Dr. Allred said that the final of the Golden State Million Futurity
G1 will go this Sunday as scheduled. "We are going to run the Golden
State as scheduled," Dr. Allred told TRACK. He said that some
additional testing is still being done on horses that are qualified for that race.
Heza Dasha Fire, the fastest qualifier for the Golden State Million,
won the Ed Burke Million Futurity G1 at Los Alamitos earlier this year
and should he win the Golden State will be in the running for the $1
million Los Alamitos Bonanza.
Dr. Allred said the Golden State Million final could not be moved
because it would not allow horses in the final of that race enough
time between it and the November 23 trials for the Los Alamitos Two
Million Futurity G1.
"We have had complete cooperation from the state in this matter, and
we are working hard to make sure that Los Alamitos has the cleanest
racing anywhere," he added.
A news release last Friday from Los Alamitos revealed that the drawing
for this Saturday's (November 1) races "will take place under the
track's traditional Wednesday schedule on October 29. |
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Location: NE Texas | Another big thumbs up for Dr. Allred! Thanks for sharing, Joleen. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Interesting. Although I personally see this more as a trainer issue than an owner issue from my experience. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I actually see it as owner/trainer responsibility. Owners will go to any length to get to the winners circle. If that means finding a trainer that will give what is illegal that's where these owners are going to go. If they can't have their horses run on their own merit, training, feed program then they need to be banned and fined. I also feel that horse needs to be banned and not allowed to move from trainer to trainer. Sure does make it hard on us little guys that try to do things right to outrun all this crap they decide to put in these horses. |
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Location: NE Texas | total performance - 2014-10-28 10:26 AM I actually see it as owner/trainer responsibility. Owners will go to any length to get to the winners circle. If that means finding a trainer that will give what is illegal that's where these owners are going to go. If they can't have their horses run on their own merit, training, feed program then they need to be banned and fined. I also feel that horse needs to be banned and not allowed to move from trainer to trainer. Sure does make it hard on us little guys that try to do things right to outrun all this crap they decide to put in these horses.
Amen! It's absolutley an owner problem just as much as a trainer problem. I know of owners who have walked their horses across the street to switch trainers because the current trainer refused to give the bad stuff and trainer across the street agreed to. There is nothing to encourage owners to seek out trainers who do things right.....if the horse pops positive and the trainer is fined and faces suspension, no problem, owner just moves the horse to a new barn/trainer and it's biz as usual for them. ALL parties and connections, including the horse itself, must be held accontable, fined, and suspended (or not allowed to run) for this to make an impact. Get in the pockets of owners and then they will pay attention. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-10-28 10:34 AM total performance - 2014-10-28 10:26 AM I actually see it as owner/trainer responsibility. Owners will go to any length to get to the winners circle. If that means finding a trainer that will give what is illegal that's where these owners are going to go. If they can't have their horses run on their own merit, training, feed program then they need to be banned and fined. I also feel that horse needs to be banned and not allowed to move from trainer to trainer. Sure does make it hard on us little guys that try to do things right to outrun all this crap they decide to put in these horses. Amen! It's absolutley an owner problem just as much as a trainer problem. I know of owners who have walked their horses across the street to switch trainers because the current trainer refused to give the bad stuff and trainer across the street agreed to. There is nothing to encourage owners to seek out trainers who do things right.....if the horse pops positive and the trainer is fined and faces suspension, no problem, owner just moves the horse to a new barn/trainer and it's biz as usual for them. ALL parties and connections, including the horse itself, must be held accontable, fined, and suspended (or not allowed to run) for this to make an impact. Get in the pockets of owners and then they will pay attention.
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Location: Online | Ed Allred is really tightening down his track. I've heard some trainers are banned from stepping foot until they are further investigated. He wants them to run clean. I applaud him for that. Let's make it an even playing field. Let the horses win on their own talent and not the help of pharmaceuticals. I even think there should be a limit on how many times a horse can have joint injections.
I don't exactly like Doc Allred for what he did for a living but I'm glad he's trying to clean up his track. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-28 11:14 AM Ed Allred is really tightening down his track. I've heard some trainers are banned from stepping foot until they are further investigated. He wants them to run clean. I applaud him for that. Let's make it an even playing field. Let the horses win on their own talent and not the help of pharmaceuticals. I even think there should be a limit on how many times a horse can have joint injections.
I don't exactly like Doc Allred for what he did for a living but I'm glad he's trying to clean up his track.
Oklahoma is tightening things also. Now if we can get the rest of the tracks to follow suit..maybe, just maybe we can get this stuff cleaned up. |
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Location: NE Texas | Unfortunately the drug problem exceed the confines of the racetrack world. According to WPRA, of the horses that were tested at WPRA events in 2015, right at 20% tested positive with a Class 1 or Class 2 medication violation. When this was addressed there were several members (some prominent) that were very adamnatly against the WPRA drug testing their horses. One walked out, and three others were very outspoken about their stance on this subject. One former world champion and current NFR qualifer went so far as to say "i'll do what I want and just pay the fine" during the members meeting. This saddens me for our sport as well.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-10-28 11:49 AM Unfortunately the drug problem exceed the confines of the racetrack world. According to WPRA, of the horses that were tested at WPRA events in 2015, right at 20% tested positive with a Class 1 or Class 2 medication violation. When this was addressed there were several members (some prominent) that were very adamnatly against the WPRA drug testing their horses. One walked out, and three others were very outspoken about their stance on this subject. One former world champion and current NFR qualifer went so far as to say "i'll do what I want and just pay the fine" during the members meeting. This saddens me for our sport as well.
WOW! Sad for sure. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I believe that racing will only be cleaned up when ALL the connections and the horses face mandatory sanctions to include stiff fines and long suspensions. I also think that sanctions imposed in one state will need to be upheld in all other racing jurisdictions. Only when peoples pocketbooks, livelyhoods and breeding programs are jeopardized are they going to begin play by the rules that us little people have always respected. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | SC Wrangler - 2014-10-28 6:55 PM I believe that racing will only be cleaned up when ALL the connections and the horses face mandatory sanctions to include stiff fines and long suspensions. I also think that sanctions imposed in one state will need to be upheld in all other racing jurisdictions. Only when peoples pocketbooks, livelyhoods and breeding programs are jeopardized are they going to begin play by the rules that us little people have always respected.
AMEN SISTA! I'm right there with you! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Herbie - 2014-10-28 11:49 AM Unfortunately the drug problem exceed the confines of the racetrack world. According to WPRA, of the horses that were tested at WPRA events in 2015, right at 20% tested positive with a Class 1 or Class 2 medication violation. When this was addressed there were several members (some prominent) that were very adamnatly against the WPRA drug testing their horses. One walked out, and three others were very outspoken about their stance on this subject. One former world champion and current NFR qualifer went so far as to say "i'll do what I want and just pay the fine" during the members meeting. This saddens me for our sport as well.
Hmmmm. There is only one there that I can see doing that. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | SC Wrangler - 2014-10-28 6:55 PM
I believe that racing will only be cleaned up when ALL the connections and the horses face mandatory sanctions to include stiff fines and long suspensions. I also think that sanctions imposed in one state will need to be upheld in all other racing jurisdictions. Only when peoples pocketbooks, livelyhoods and breeding programs are jeopardized are they going to begin play by the rules that us little people have always respected.
Do you wanna clean it up? I mean really clean?? Start tacking prison terms to all that other stuff.... For the Vets, trainers AND owners. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Would be interesting to see something like this at some of the barrel races. |
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