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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | Soooo I'm not going to link the ad because it's someone I somewhat know but... I saw an add on facebook for a: Finished Arabian Gelding who is supposedly clocking in the 4D... I've never seen an Arabian in the barrel pen... Like. EVER. Educate me! Is this a thing now? I've only ever run Quarters or half quarter half Thoroughbreds. I guess I'm too close minded? I know a few people who run different breeds, but not many... I know we have at least one person on here who raises Arabs because i've read the signature lol so let's hear the stories of your not so conventional barrel horses! |
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Β There was a post on this exact thing within the last week or so. Arabs may not be as fast out of the hole but theyre agile enough they don't have to slow down on their turns and they start speeding up when other breeds start fading. I started our polish bred arab on barrels and used him for sorting. They can definitely run a 4d time, and faster. Al Marah uses Arabs for ranch work. Look up Sheila Varian as well. They're very versatile. |
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         Location: Minnesota | Breed doesn't always make the horse. Heart and try are just as important IMO. You said it best when you said your too closed minded. I think its a very powerful thing to be under estimated in a world that can be so hard to anything that isn't the norm. I'd give that horse a chance any day of the week. After all, being an underestimated underdog can have sweet sweet rewards when you kick some butt against people who didn't even think you were on the same level. 
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| I graduated from my mid sized pony to an Arabian mare as a kid back in the 80's. She ran what would have been 3-4D times nowadays, and was a 21 second pole horse. I got a lot of sneers and snide comments from a couple spoiled brats but looking back, she was a great transition for me to 'big horses'. She had the agility to do well and the try of Secretariat. Lol! I think they make great kids barrel horses, since you don't have to fear the power of a big QH but they can still be competitive. |
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 Horsey Gene Carrier
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        Location: LaBelle, Florida | I usually see at least one or two Arabs running down here in Fla. I ran one and if I had not sold him, he would have been competive in at least 3d. |
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      Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I have a friend that had 2 Arabians. Momma and daughter that were both VERY good barrel horses. They didn't run with the big dogs but could place at smaller speed shows. I believe any horse could run barrels. |
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| It is very common for arabs to be in barrels, they're not always 1D horses but very quick usually. Its also common for Quarabs and multiple other breeds...
Paints
Appaloosas
TB
Morgans
Arabs
Any many crossed... with 2 or more of the above. I see them all the time up here at the local barrel races and shows.
I ran a Morgan/Paint for a client when I was younger. He was a solid 2D locally, 3D at the big shows. Jam up pole horse and could do the other fun show type events and win.
Also ran 2 arabs for clients - one was 2d/3D also and the other 3D/4D and both 21sec pole horses.
We even had a saddlebred/?? something as a kid growing up... he wasn't good at barrels (did them but probably was 4D at best) but won poles almost everywhere he went in his younger days.
I ran a grade appaloosa and he was one of the fastest, stoutest, nicest geldings. He was 1D locally, 2D at the big stuff.
I had another client horse that was an appaloosa/TB - boy was she ugly but she was easily 1D in any arena.
Im sure I can remember more but I love a grade horse with some heart!
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | of course they can run barrels..arabs are smart to.. and agile and fast..  |
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 Off the Wall Wacky
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         Location: Louisiana | There is a professional working cow horse trainer near me with a barn full of Arabians, with several champion stallions. I know typically the only Quarters in his barn are outside clients. I actually took riding lessons under his daughter who mainly showed English when I was in Kindergarten. I was on her old Arab gelding. Gosh that was a long time ago!! She still gives lessons too, my best friend brings her step-daughter to her.
We have a half quarter-half Arab in our barn. My mom bought him for any of our little cousins to ride when they come over. He is the perfect kids horse bc he goes whatever speed they ask. My sister has entered him for fun and he is about 4-D. I have breezed him through the poles and he about left me in the dirt lol, I think someone younger than me who can keep rythm with him could be a low 21 at least. He LOVES poles. |
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        Location: Alberta | Bibliafarm - 2014-11-04 5:31 PM of course they can run barrels..arabs are smart to.. and agile and fast.. 
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        Location: Ky | You are talking about running 2 seconds off the winning time. Of course and Arab can do that. So could a donkey. Time management and racing really shouldn't be considered the same thing but it is. |
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| stayceem - 2014-11-04 7:15 PM It is very common for arabs to be in barrels, they're not always 1D horses but very quick usually. Its also common for Quarabs and multiple other breeds... Paints Appaloosas TB Morgans Arabs Any many crossed... with 2 or more of the above. I see them all the time up here at the local barrel races and shows. I ran a Morgan/Paint for a client when I was younger. He was a solid 2D locally, 3D at the big shows. Jam up pole horse and could do the other fun show type events and win. Also ran 2 arabs for clients - one was 2d/3D also and the other 3D/4D and both 21sec pole horses. We even had a saddlebred/?? something as a kid growing up... he wasn't good at barrels (did them but probably was 4D at best) but won poles almost everywhere he went in his younger days. I ran a grade appaloosa and he was one of the fastest, stoutest, nicest geldings. He was 1D locally, 2D at the big stuff. I had another client horse that was an appaloosa/TB - boy was she ugly but she was easily 1D in any arena. Im sure I can remember more but I love a grade horse with some heart!
They're not always 1D? I've personally never known of an Arab being in the 1D, 2D or 3D. I have known of several that were very consistent and solid 4D horses. One gal I knew had an Arab that placed in the 4D almost every race and won quite a few 4D end of year saddles and went to NBHA World show every year in the 4D. Just out of curiosity, have you ever known of an Arab being in the 1D at a show with more than 25 riders? |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | runs4fun - 2014-11-04 8:16 PM stayceem - 2014-11-04 7:15 PM It is very common for arabs to be in barrels, they're not always 1D horses but very quick usually. Its also common for Quarabs and multiple other breeds... Paints Appaloosas TB Morgans Arabs Any many crossed... with 2 or more of the above. I see them all the time up here at the local barrel races and shows. I ran a Morgan/Paint for a client when I was younger. He was a solid 2D locally, 3D at the big shows. Jam up pole horse and could do the other fun show type events and win. Also ran 2 arabs for clients - one was 2d/3D also and the other 3D/4D and both 21sec pole horses. We even had a saddlebred/?? something as a kid growing up... he wasn't good at barrels (did them but probably was 4D at best) but won poles almost everywhere he went in his younger days. I ran a grade appaloosa and he was one of the fastest, stoutest, nicest geldings. He was 1D locally, 2D at the big stuff. I had another client horse that was an appaloosa/TB - boy was she ugly but she was easily 1D in any arena. Im sure I can remember more but I love a grade horse with some heart! They're not always 1D? I've personally never known of an Arab being in the 1D, 2D or 3D. I have known of several that were very consistent and solid 4D horses. One gal I knew had an Arab that placed in the 4D almost every race and won quite a few 4D end of year saddles and went to NBHA World show every year in the 4D. Just out of curiosity, have you ever known of an Arab being in the 1D at a show with more than 25 riders?
but the ad said this and the OP couldnt believe it.. I dont know why she thought it was odd.. "Finished Arabian Gelding who is supposedly clocking in the 4D... |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM
runs4fun - 2014-11-04 8:16 PM stayceem - 2014-11-04 7:15 PM It is very common for arabs to be in barrels, they're not always 1D horses but very quick usually. Its also common for Quarabs and multiple other breeds... Paints Appaloosas TB Morgans Arabs Any many crossed... with 2 or more of the above. I see them all the time up here at the local barrel races and shows. I ran a Morgan/Paint for a client when I was younger. He was a solid 2D locally, 3D at the big shows. Jam up pole horse and could do the other fun show type events and win. Also ran 2 arabs for clients - one was 2d/3D also and the other 3D/4D and both 21sec pole horses. We even had a saddlebred/?? something as a kid growing up... he wasn't good at barrels (did them but probably was 4D at best) but won poles almost everywhere he went in his younger days. I ran a grade appaloosa and he was one of the fastest, stoutest, nicest geldings. He was 1D locally, 2D at the big stuff. I had another client horse that was an appaloosa/TB - boy was she ugly but she was easily 1D in any arena. Im sure I can remember more but I love a grade horse with some heart! They're not always 1D? I've personally never known of an Arab being in the 1D, 2D or 3D. Β I have known of several that were very consistent and solid 4D horses. Β One gal I knew had an Arab that placed in the 4D almost every race and won quite a few 4D end of year saddles and went to NBHA World show every year in the 4D. Β Just out of curiosity, have you ever known of an Arab being in the 1D at a show with more than 25 riders?
Β but the ad said this and the OP couldnt believe it.. I dont know why she thought it was odd.. "Finished Arabian Gelding who is supposedly clocking in the 4D...  Β
I guess what I meant is they MAY not be 1D barrel horses but per my post, I have personally ridden seen 2D/3D/4D arabs... and yes with entries far more than 25 |
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         Location: Louisiana | jd&ez - 2014-11-04 7:09 PM You are talking about running 2 seconds off the winning time. Of course and Arab can do that. So could a donkey. Time management and racing really shouldn't be considered the same thing but it is.
I find this comment to be very offensive. Perhaps you should read the positivity rant by Fallon :) |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | dashnlotti - 2014-11-04 7:35 PM jd&ez - 2014-11-04 7:09 PM You are talking about running 2 seconds off the winning time. Of course and Arab can do that. So could a donkey. Time management and racing really shouldn't be considered the same thing but it is. I find this comment to be very offensive. Perhaps you should read the positivity rant by Fallon :)
I agree......Years ago, I helped a young man with his mare (Arabian) on the barrel pattern. They went out and BEAT the pants off of a lot of high powered horses (rodeo horses/state champions, etc). And that was back when you didn't have "Ds"......YOu had to run to win and she flat OUT RAN them.....
Oh....and they used to say the same thing about appaloosas and paints...... |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Oh I have seen a few Arabian's hold their own on running barrels and poles  |
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        Location: on my horse | I had a 1D local shows (still over 100 entries) 2D big shows half arabian mare. She would absolutely run the legs off just about anything I've ever ridden. She was stunning, powerful, and athletic. Ran top end times until her death at 23 (injury related). I posted about her on the other thread as well but forgot to add she was also a stellar pole horse. She never felt like she was hauling a** like she was, the first time I entered her I was floored because she was so smooth and easy to ride she felt like she was barely moving.
So to answer your question, it is a thing lol
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    Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | I own a 2-3D Arabian and runs 21-22 pole pattern they do exist. Oh and that's with more than 25 entries lol :) |
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