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When you sell a horse with "issues"

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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 6:52 PM
Subject: When you sell a horse with "issues"


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Just curious how others would handle something like this. When you sell a cheap, broke colt with "issues", non dangerous, but would require an experienced rider, and you are very upfront and honest about these issues, and state that the horse is being sold because of these issues.... and then buyer takes colt home for a few days and then decides they can't deal with the issues and wants to send him back.... what do you do? He was sold with a "with all faults, as is" contract. Just wondering how others handle this. Never had it happen before.
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suzy2qtee
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Posted 2014-11-07 6:58 PM
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Sold is sold.. Unless you have an attachment to the colt.. Thier problem now. 
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Cjakerock
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Posted 2014-11-07 7:01 PM
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Agreed! You told them, they took him "as is" he is SOLD
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SoFast
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Posted 2014-11-07 7:03 PM
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I am upset with this situation because I could not have possibly been more honest about the horse, and I do not enjoy being made out to be the bad guy. If I took him back, I would be out time and money of hauling the horse around for them to try and I don't believe I should have to take a loss in the situation.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:04 PM
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You sold the colt and you were honest with the buyers and they bought him anyways, so I say SOLD.  
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:08 PM
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They are ringing my phone off of the hook and I am unsure of the best way to handle them. It is very upsetting. I need a game plan. I sold him cheap, cheap because I did not wish to continue to try to work him through his issues anymore and while he didn't do anything wrong when they tried him, I SPECIFICALLY got video of him doing his little issue so that they could see what he was like. What a nightmare.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:10 PM
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I would not give a full refund.

You sold the horse as is, hopefully wrote a bill of sale. If you care for the well being of the horse, you could offer 1/2-3/4 of price up to 500 retained for services.
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:12 PM
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I agree with the others. I don't know why some people feel they want to take on issues and then change their mind later. 

I did sell a young horse that was "off" but traveled sound. He just didn't feel like he was using himself right when he loped tight circles. So I sold him to someone I knew as a kid for a trail, ranch horse. He liked him, and from the start had plans to have him vetted. I sold him "as is" though, cheap. He was found to have a lot of hock issues, that were apparently painful even though the horse had a good heart and wasn't showing pain. I felt obligated to make up the difference after he sold him (asked if I wanted to make a pasture pet first). I was no way entitled to do this, but I am not in the business of selling cripples so made it right much to his surprise.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:13 PM
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SoFast - 2014-11-07 7:08 PM They are ringing my phone off of the hook and I am unsure of the best way to handle them. It is very upsetting. I need a game plan. I sold him cheap, cheap because I did not wish to continue to try to work him through his issues anymore and while he didn't do anything wrong when they tried him, I SPECIFICALLY got video of him doing his little issue so that they could see what he was like. What a nightmare.

You need to tell them that you were upfront with them on his issues, and they need to back off, OR tell them that you will buy him back at half of what you sold him for so you wont be losing any money while you are reselling him. I dont know this was just throwing this out there .   
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-11-07 7:14 PM
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D Maybe offer to deduct $45 per hour of your time and all fuel expenses if they want to return him?

Or tell them to pound sand.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:17 PM
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Oh good glad I'm not the only one thinking this way about buying him back for half of what you sold him for. This would take care of the trouble that they are putting on you.
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:19 PM
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He's sound as the day is long, just is half nutty... and I believe those were the exact words I used to describe him to the buyers! He doesn't buck, bite, kick, or anything like that. Just has a screw loose, I was upfront and said that I am not sure if it could be fixed with training, or just some more ride time, or if he will be that way forever. He's just goofy and I didn't care to deal with him anymore, and yes I said this to them, word for word.
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:25 PM
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For inquiring minds, the issue is that he will spook, and go into a weird side pass dance. He does it a lot. He will sidepass around the arena for 5 minutes straight sometimes, and then when he quits he will just ride on perfectly, until he randomly does it again. I did not want to deal with it anymore. I never had him vetted and gave them an option for a vet check, which they denied, probably because the vet check would cost near the purchase price of the horse. I do not believe he is hurting, but not ruling it out. He is just an odd ball horse.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:29 PM
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SoFast - 2014-11-07 6:52 PM Just curious how others would handle something like this. When you sell a cheap, broke colt with "issues", non dangerous, but would require an experienced rider, and you are very upfront and honest about these issues, and state that the horse is being sold because of these issues.... and then buyer takes colt home for a few days and then decides they can't deal with the issues and wants to send him back.... what do you do? He was sold with a "with all faults, as is" contract. Just wondering how others handle this. Never had it happen before.

How old is he? Do you have any pictures of him saddle up? 
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:32 PM
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He is 5. And he has always done it. We broke him to ride, have used him to move cows, done extensive arena work. It is just a random thing. Some days he never even considers it, some days you can not get a thing done with him.
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Used2B
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-11-07 7:34 PM
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You were honest and they bought him anyway. He's their horse now. I'm so glad I don't sell any horses anymore! I don't know where it got started that you can just bring the horse back and get a refund if you weren't pleased with your purchase even if the seller was totally honest....who started that anyway??? You did nothing wrong...sounds like they looked at the price tag only and wanted something for nothing. I'd offer to help them sell the horse (by word of mouth only) but that's it. They may never speak to you again but you were honest and they bought him anyway.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 7:35 PM
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SoFast - 2014-11-07 7:32 PM He is 5. And he has always done it. We broke him to ride, have used him to move cows, done extensive arena work. It is just a random thing. Some days he never even considers it, some days you can not get a thing done with him.
Did you ever get his teeth done? Just asking questions trying to think of all the reasons why he would spook and run sideways. I wonder if maybe hes got some caps that could be bothering him.  

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-11-07 8:53 PM
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:52 PM
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I am 99% sure it is a behavioral thing. He has never taken a lame step, has had his teeth done, my husband is a farrier and horse trainer and has been for 30 years. We have never seen anything like it.
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 7:59 PM
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Regardless of why he does it... he does do it, and I sold him because of it. I sold him with the knowledge that whoever bought him would have the responsibility of figuring out why he does it and/or how to fix it.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-11-07 8:01 PM
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SoFast - 2014-11-07 7:52 PM I am 99% sure it is a behavioral thing. He has never taken a lame step, has had his teeth done, my husband is a farrier and horse trainer and has been for 30 years. We have never seen anything like it.

Oh well you sold him with them knowing his issues, hes theirs now and they need to deal with it. 
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