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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-13 5:47 PM
Subject: weaning question (now mastitis)



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 I weaned my filly yesterday, she is 6 months. Everything went well, mostly drama free. But, today my poor mare is MISERABLE! Her udder is enormous! She's so engorged,  streaming milk and even swelling up to her flanks. She is in so much pain and having a hard time walking.
I spoke to two vets. One said milk her out and make her comfortable. The second said DO NOT milk her out, put her in a dry lot , give her bute and basically barely feed her for a couple of days.
I feel so awful... I don't mind putting the baby back with her and making this a gradual transition? Neither vet thought that was necessary, but more poor mare looks like a Jersey cow! HELP!!!
Anyone else experience this? What did you do to help?

 

Edited by just4fun 2014-11-14 10:03 AM
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-13 6:42 PM
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I've never had one do that?? Do you give much grain? I have been told when a person weans to cut all grain out as that helps to produce milk. Poor girl must just be a good milker. 
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-13 6:50 PM
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Thanks for responding. I'm so worried about her!
I went ahead and put her up and gave her bute. I'll bring her some hay in the morning
 As if I didn't already feel like the worst person ever for taking away her baby!
Check out how it's swelling into her flank! 
 

Edited by just4fun 2014-11-13 6:52 PM
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-13 6:51 PM
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But don't look at all the bot eggs! lol! Sorry!!!!!  
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-13 6:56 PM
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maybe too much info, but I breast fed my boys and let me tell you, if you wait too long, the swelling will just about go up to your collar bone!!! It was one of the first times I left my little guy to go ride and when I got back in thinking it was perfect timing to feed him, he was alseep. And then proceeded to take the longest nap of his short life. I was so so sore. It actually makes you feel feverish. But the good news is that it is what makes you stop producing so I bet she is better by tomorrow. If you milk her, it will just make her produce more again.
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-13 7:02 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-11-13 6:56 PM maybe too much info, but I breast fed my boys and let me tell you, if you wait too long, the swelling will just about go up to your collar bone!!! It was one of the first times I left my little guy to go ride and when I got back in thinking it was perfect timing to feed him, he was alseep. And then proceeded to take the longest nap of his short life. I was so so sore. It actually makes you feel feverish. But the good news is that it is what makes you stop producing so I bet she is better by tomorrow. If you milk her, it will just make her produce more again.
I competely understsand! I bf all three of mine. Maybe that's why I feel so sorry for her! I so know the feeling of having boobs under your armpits and up to your collar bone! lol!!!

Edited by just4fun 2014-11-13 7:04 PM
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-13 7:13 PM
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just4fun - 2014-11-13 6:02 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-11-13 6:56 PM maybe too much info, but I breast fed my boys and let me tell you, if you wait too long, the swelling will just about go up to your collar bone!!! It was one of the first times I left my little guy to go ride and when I got back in thinking it was perfect timing to feed him, he was alseep. And then proceeded to take the longest nap of his short life. I was so so sore. It actually makes you feel feverish. But the good news is that it is what makes you stop producing so I bet she is better by tomorrow. If you milk her, it will just make her produce more again.
I competely understsand! I bf all three of mine. Maybe that's why I feel so sorry for her! I so know the feeling of having boobs under your armpits and up to your collar bone! lol!!!

LOL I was afraid my statement would freak you out. Some of the peeps on here are all wierd about that kind of stuff. But you so understand. Yep forgot the armpit part too lol. Mine go out to pasture when we wean, far away from the house and the babies, so by the time we check on them the next day they have traveled so much they have never been swollen like your mare. I'm sure they are still a bit sore though. There is such an emotional loss when you quit feeding your baby, I was so sad. My youngest son quit on his own :( So I kind of think I know how these old mares feel  
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-11-13 9:20 PM
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Let the foal nurse to give relief and go with your gut and make it gradual. Cut any grain. and feed grass hay if you have it. Keep an eye out for Mastitis since she is a great producer.
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-11-13 9:32 PM
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I wouldn't put the baby back with her. If you feel tout HAVE to do something, milk a little out by hand. Is she just standing around feeling sorry for herself or is she getting some exercise?
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HorseMommyFiveO
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2014-11-13 10:10 PM
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Awwwww poor girl!! I cou,d never just wean my own human babies cold turkey, I'd be miserable. Milk her out and find some way to do a cold compress. You milking her out will not make her endlessly make milk the rest of her life. So what if you do it a couple days in a row? Humans take WEEKS to diminish our own milk supply.
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-14 9:02 AM
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I wouldn't put the foal back either. I would get her moving a bit. exercise and no grain has always worked for mine. By exercise I mean just turning her out. Mine would always walk the fence and hollar a bit the first couple days. Nothing terrible but enough to keep her legs moving.  
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 9:10 AM
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I wouldn't put the foal back on her or milk her. Cut grain and give her hay and turn her out. I would bute a few days also if she is showing signs of pain. 
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2014-11-14 9:15 AM
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im with bb's that say dont put the baby back on her or milk her, thats just prolonging things.....just gonna take time....no grain and put the hay away from the water so she has to walk a bit .......it will get better in a few days

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horsepoor1
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2014-11-14 9:18 AM
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Murphy - 2014-11-14 10:10 AM

I wouldn't put the foal back on her or milk her. Cut grain and give her hay and turn her out. I would bute a few days also if she is showing signs of pain.Β 

This. Putting the baby back on her or milking her will only tell her body to make more milk, prolonging her drying up. We always take our mares off grain when the baby is weaned-hay/pasture only.
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 9:29 AM
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Bad news...she's already developed mastitis!!!
On my way to pick up Exceed and banamine, bute just isn't helping. Her whole body is just quivering in pain.
I feel so absolutely horrible.
Vet said to try to milk  out the infected side (right) to get the thick, pussy junk out. I tried, but can't get more than a couple of ounces. Any tips? 


 
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 9:31 AM
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here's the difference in the r/l sides
 
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 9:31 AM
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just4fun - 2014-11-14 10:29 AM Bad news...she's already developed mastitis!!!

On my way to pick up Exceed and banamine, bute just isn't helping. Her whole body is just quivering in pain.

I feel so absolutely horrible.

Vet said to try to milk  out the infected side (right) to get the thick, pussy junk out. I tried, but can't get more than a couple of ounces. Any tips? 




 

Is it possible to load her up and take her to the vet? Or have your vet come out? My mare would kick my face off if I tried to milk her, lol.  
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: weaning question...



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Murphy - 2014-11-14 9:31 AM
just4fun - 2014-11-14 10:29 AM Bad news...she's already developed mastitis!!!

On my way to pick up Exceed and banamine, bute just isn't helping. Her whole body is just quivering in pain.

I feel so absolutely horrible.

Vet said to try to milk  out the infected side (right) to get the thick, pussy junk out. I tried, but can't get more than a couple of ounces. Any tips? 




 
Is it possible to load her up and take her to the vet? Or have your vet come out? My mare would kick my face off if I tried to milk her, lol.  

Yes, definitely. But, she's being patient with me and vet didn't say to bring her in... just to give the exceed and banamine and update tomorrow.  
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2014-11-14 9:33 AM
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just4fun - 2014-11-15 8:29 AM Bad news...she's already developed mastitis!!!

On my way to pick up Exceed and banamine, bute just isn't helping. Her whole body is just quivering in pain.

I feel so absolutely horrible.

Vet said to try to milk  out the infected side (right) to get the thick, pussy junk out. I tried, but can't get more than a couple of ounces. Any tips? 




 

wow..i hope she is ok

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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-11-14 9:46 AM
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just4fun - 2014-11-14 9:33 AM

Murphy - 2014-11-14 9:31 AM
just4fun - 2014-11-14 10:29 AM Bad news...she's already developed mastitis!!!

On my wayΒ to pick up Exceed and banamine, bute just isn't helping.Β Her whole body is just quivering in pain.

I feel so absolutely horrible.

Vet said to try to milkΒ  out the infected side (right) to get the thick, pussy junk out. I tried, but can't get more than a couple of ounces. Any tips?Β 




Β 
Is it possible to load her up and take her to the vet? Or have your vet come out? My mare would kick my face off if I tried to milk her, lol. Β 

Yes, definitely. But, she's being patient with me and vet didn't say to bring her in... just to give the exceed and banamine and update tomorrow. Β 

Do you know how to strip the teat? (Its different from just milking) When dealing with mastitis in cows and sheep - we'll strip the side with the infection while treating.

Hope she comes out of it and is ok!
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