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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | OK the prosecuting attorneys want to make a deal. What do you think would be my best choice. This is my Criminal Stalking charge by my city. I feel we have plenty of evidence to counter all her lies. The reason I am asking here is because this is a wide female audience. The Court wants me to take a psycological examination because nobody ever submits a very detailed and graphic affidavit like I did to the court. I started laughing when my attorney told me that. Well I told him they never ran into a Doug Gordon B4.
1. Plea and Obeyance. I plead guilty and in about 2 years it could be taken off my record. I said No way!
2. The attorneys file a "Diversion" with the court where no admission of guilt or innocence is made, the court assigns things for me to complete like "Pyscological examination, ect." When my assignments are complete my record is wiped clean. However if I don't complete the assignments, They would then prosecute me from the beginning. However, she would not be accountable for her lies that started the entire thing in the first place. The Civil Stalking charge would still be in effect.
3. Same as #2 but she (D. E P) has to drop the civil Stalking Injunction and we both go our opposite ways. This way her lies won't be exposed in court and to her fiance.
4. Go to court and defend myself with my attorney. Take my chance with a jury. Attorney said jurys can be very unpredictable especially with this kind of case and if lots of women are on the jury. It is also going to be pretty expensive. If i loose, I will have a Stalking record the rest of my life. If I win, she can be held accountable for her lies and perjury. Then I will have no record. If I win, then I will have to go with a Civil Defense attorney to get the civil stalking order taken off.
5. Run to Mexico and sell cheap merchandise on the beach for the next 30 years.
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Location: SE Louisiana | If you have a good lawyer, I'd go with #4.... A good lawyer can pick lies apart and once she is caught in even one lie, everything else she says becomes suspect and the house of cards starts to fall down around her. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | 3 and 5 sound good to me. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | SG. - 2014-11-19 6:24 PM #6 listen to your attorney
By law he has to just give me the options and I choose. He does have one he is leaning towards. But I am not completely satisfied with it. Either way which ever I choose he will go to bat for me big time he said. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Why don't you like #3? |
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Location: Iowa | Take a plea and be done. I am a true believer of Karma. She will get exposed down the road. Just sit back and wait. It always happens. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | memory - 2014-11-19 6:42 PM Take a plea and be done. I am a true believer of Karma. She will get exposed down the road. Just sit back and wait. It always happens.
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-19 6:39 PM
Why don't you like #3?
I've been reading your posts on the other threads as well as here ... why don't you like 3?
Also - if you choose 5 I bet you'd have some friends come down and chill!! |
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| I would take #4 ONLY IF IT IS IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE NOT THE JURY been there done that jury's only hear what they want to hear. If that can't be done than #3 does not look to bad. However the rest of your life on the beach in Mexico isn't bad LOL!! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I think as a man you have the mindset that you are right and want to PROVE that….but let’s be real……Women are going to look at a “stalking” charge very seriously. I will preface this by saying that without all of the facts, etc, this opinion is based on your posts..........I have read most of your posts (and I don’t mean this hatefully) but you do come off as a little obsessive with a tad bit of arrogance…..and women HATE arrogant men. Unfortunately, your chance with a jury could very well be tainted by just ONE strong woman who could sway a vote. I would go with #3 and do the community service or whatever and get IT OVER…..whatever you decide....Good Luck!
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| Take a deal. Like NJJ said, from the perspective of reading your previous posts you might not recognize how some of your behavior or comments comes across to others. The list you gave to the police was a little strange and some of your posts explaining things are hard to follow and don't make sense. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-19 7:46 PM Take a deal. Like NJJ said, from the perspective of reading your previous posts you might not recognize how some of your behavior or comments comes across to others. The list you gave to the police was a little strange and some of your posts explaining things are hard to follow and don't make sense.
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-11-19 7:34 PM
  I think as a man you have the mindset that you are right and want to PROVE that….but let’s be real……Women are going to look at a “stalking” charge very seriously. I will preface this by saying that without all of the facts, etc, this opinion is based on your posts..........I have read most of your posts (and I don’t mean this hatefully) but you do come off as a little obsessive with a tad bit of arrogance…..and women HATE arrogant men. Unfortunately, your chance with a jury could very well be tainted by just ONE strong woman who could sway a vote. I would go with #3 and do the community service or whatever and get IT OVER…..whatever you decide....Good Luck! Â
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I disagree.. If he takes a guilty plea, no matter what they say, it will be on his record forever... If she walked in there and told a stack of lies like he says, the chances are some of those lies will be there to support others. Any competent lawyer only needs to pick one of those lies apart to make the rest of them crumble and there she will be sitting with egg all over her face. As to a jury stacked with women, that might work FOR him. Women understand each other and will be more likely to spot lies other women tell and understand what she is doing.
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| #3. See what the court will assign for tasks
Don't waste your money fighting it, if it doesn't go on your record, she is not worth the fight. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2014-11-19 7:50 PM NJJ - 2014-11-19 7:34 PM I think as a man you have the mindset that you are right and want to PROVE that….but let’s be real……Women are going to look at a “stalking” charge very seriously. I will preface this by saying that without all of the facts, etc, this opinion is based on your posts..........I have read most of your posts (and I don’t mean this hatefully) but you do come off as a little obsessive with a tad bit of arrogance…..and women HATE arrogant men. Unfortunately, your chance with a jury could very well be tainted by just ONE strong woman who could sway a vote. I would go with #3 and do the community service or whatever and get IT OVER…..whatever you decide....Good Luck!
I disagree.. If he takes a guilty plea, no matter what they say, it will be on his record forever... If she walked in there and told a stack of lies like he says, the chances are some of those lies will be there to support others. Any competent lawyer only needs to pick one of those lies apart to make the rest of them crumble and there she will be sitting with egg all over her face. As to a jury stacked with women, that might work FOR him. Women understand each other and will be more likely to spot lies other women tell and understand what she is doing.
You will notice that I said "without all of the facts" before giving my opinion.....We only have HIS word that she lied. Additionally, without knowing his state's rules of diversion, I will say that in "some" states, you do NOT have to plead guilty, etc......That is the whole point of a diversion.....you are deemed neither guilty or innocent. And unless he doesn't complete his diversion (counseling or whatever), he can't be prosecuted. Also, I will guarantee that there will be women on the jury that will overlook a little lie here or there and concentrate on his demeanor, etc. Just a WOMAN'S opinion.......... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-11-19 8:14 PM
komet. - 2014-11-19 7:50 PM NJJ - 2014-11-19 7:34 PM   I think as a man you have the mindset that you are right and want to PROVE that….but let’s be real……Women are going to look at a “stalking” charge very seriously. I will preface this by saying that without all of the facts, etc, this opinion is based on your posts..........I have read most of your posts (and I don’t mean this hatefully) but you do come off as a little obsessive with a tad bit of arrogance…..and women HATE arrogant men. Unfortunately, your chance with a jury could very well be tainted by just ONE strong woman who could sway a vote. I would go with #3 and do the community service or whatever and get IT OVER…..whatever you decide....Good Luck! Â
 I disagree.. If he takes a guilty plea, no matter what they say, it will be on his record forever... If she walked in there and told a stack of lies like he says, the chances are some of those lies will be there to support others. Any competent lawyer only needs to pick one of those lies apart to make the rest of them crumble and there she will be sitting with egg all over her face. As to a jury stacked with women, that might work FOR him. Women understand each other and will be more likely to spot lies other women tell and understand what she is doing.
'Diversion' is just a sound bite... Any agreement that forces him to do anything is a guilty plea and a diversion is nothing more than a plea deal. Anyone on the jury might overlook one little lie, but the lawyers and the judge will not. Not in a court of law. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2014-11-19 8:22 PM NJJ - 2014-11-19 8:14 PM komet. - 2014-11-19 7:50 PM NJJ - 2014-11-19 7:34 PM I think as a man you have the mindset that you are right and want to PROVE that….but let’s be real……Women are going to look at a “stalking” charge very seriously. I will preface this by saying that without all of the facts, etc, this opinion is based on your posts..........I have read most of your posts (and I don’t mean this hatefully) but you do come off as a little obsessive with a tad bit of arrogance…..and women HATE arrogant men. Unfortunately, your chance with a jury could very well be tainted by just ONE strong woman who could sway a vote. I would go with #3 and do the community service or whatever and get IT OVER…..whatever you decide....Good Luck!
I disagree.. If he takes a guilty plea, no matter what they say, it will be on his record forever... If she walked in there and told a stack of lies like he says, the chances are some of those lies will be there to support others. Any competent lawyer only needs to pick one of those lies apart to make the rest of them crumble and there she will be sitting with egg all over her face. As to a jury stacked with women, that might work FOR him. Women understand each other and will be more likely to spot lies other women tell and understand what she is doing. 'Diversion' is just a sound bite... Any agreement that forces him to do anything is a guilty plea and a diversion is nothing more than a plea deal. Anyone on the jury might overlook one little lie, but the lawyers and the judge will not. Not in a court of law.
LOL....You have more confidence in the legal system that what I have......He was looking for a woman's perspective and I gave it to him...... |
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