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Location: Texas | I have a really nice horse who has recently started pulling back on different occasions and breaking the halter when being tied to trailer. I am to blame for some of the time. now I have started something. I have never had a horse do this. he is really laid back and is a supper nice barrel horse. is there any suggestions on what I can do to avoid this from continuing to happen?  |
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Location: Kansas | If you get a heavy duty inner tube (one you'd find for a bike) you can wrap it around what you have it tied to (I have a tying post that I wrap mine around) and then tie your lead rope to that. Then when they pull back it stretches and then pulls them back. This the way that I've taught my young ones that just because you're pulling away doesn't mean you're getting away. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | Blocker Tie Ring!!!!
My gelding sits back if he doesn't like where he's tied. I think it might be a clausterphobic type thing. He will let me know ahead of time if he wants to sit back (he will resist walking any closer to that place), so I kinda let him think that he's picking where he will be tied. I use a tie ring when I tie him and as long as he can have a little bit of slack (just the right amount before he could get a hoof over the rope) and put his head down he'll tie all day long. He doesn't usually try to set back if he has some slack, but if he doesn't have enough the tie ring gives him some before he's on his butt and flipped over. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I agree with the tie ring but what you really need to work on is how well the horse leads and backs up on the lead. You should be able to got as fast and as slow as you want with out the horse lagging or getting ahead of you. The horse should never weight more than the lead rope. If you get your horse like that and also get it used to confined spaces, and hobbles and such, tieing will be much easier. |
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Location: Texas | thank you for the good suggestions. I appreciate it. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| another thing if you can tie them up to tree leave them there several hrs a day they learn patience
if you have a really bad 1 take a lariart rope around girth between front legs thru halter and tie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Good advice on giving to pressure and on the blocker tie ring. There's several variations on the market.
I've used intertubes but they were heavy tractor trailer tubes and I used two. Bike tubes will break if they're big horses and pull hard enough. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Fairweather - 2014-11-20 2:53 PM
Good advice on giving to pressure and on the blocker tie ring. There's several variations on the market.
I've used intertubes but they were heavy tractor trailer tubes and I used two. Bike tubes will break if they're big horses and pull hard enough.
Hrmmm... I've never seen one of these used.... But I like everything about it except how easy it is to release..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2-bUqDTfVU |
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Location: Somewhere else | I had to use a 'gut rope' on one I had. He would tie to anything but the trailer. He wouldn't just pull back but he would run forward, crack his head open, cut flips. This is the thing that I found that would keep him tied. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Here's my cure...I buy 16" bicycle innertubes at Walmart and don't cut them, but thread them through the trailer tie or fence and make a knot...then put your lead rope through both loops...they will stretch way out before they break, so buy a few in case he breaks some before he realizes he's not tied hard and fast...it broke my mare of pulling back and she was the worst one I've had in my life...I like the blocker too, but this is cheaper...before I was told about this years ago, I had to carry bungee cord leads and the whole mess with me everywhere I went, but this cured her of pulling back for good!!
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| Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-20 3:45 PM
Here's my cure...I buy 16" bicycle innertubes at Walmart and don't cut them, but thread them through the trailer tie or fence and make a knot...then put your lead rope through both loops...they will stretch way out before they break, so buy a few in case he breaks some before he realizes he's not tied hard and fast...it broke my mare of pulling back and she was the worst one I've had in my life...I like the blocker too, but this is cheaper...before I was told about this years ago, I had to carry bungee cord leads and the whole mess with me everywhere I went, but this cured her of pulling back for good!!
We do the same thing, works great!  |
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Location: Texas | you said to put lead rope through both loops?? do you run through trailer tie and then tie ends? do I then tie my lead rope? thnx for good info. |
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Location: Cottonwood, Ca | i would get him checked to make sure he does not have a rib out or withers... my gelding started this out of the blue..... and just wrap around so it will come undone.... time and patience.....
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | Yes to the blocker tie ring. I have them on my trailer or anywhere I tie.
Setting back is proving to be hereditary. If momma or pop did it, it's a good chance the foal will too.
There is just too much that can happen to injure a horse when he sets back, so I just try to work around it with the tie ring.
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Location: California | When I had my Hanoverian the tie ring was my last grip of sanity with his pulling back disasters.
I was ready to pull my hair out , then was shown the tie ring and we overcame what was going to turn very bad. |
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| Once they break a halter or two, my opinion is they start to realize it can be done, so they start doing it more often. As others have said, the blocker tie ring is the way to go. If it is used properly, it can be a great tool in correcting these types of issues. And nylon halters are for the birds when training one to get over their issues.
Personally, I don't care for the stretchy fixes, because it takes longer for the horse to get relief once he starts to come forward. With the tie ring, it is instant relief when they give to the pressure, not the dragging that would be felt with the innertube.
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | komet. - 2014-11-20 3:07 PM Fairweather - 2014-11-20 2:53 PM Good advice on giving to pressure and on the blocker tie ring. There's several variations on the market.
I've used intertubes but they were heavy tractor trailer tubes and I used two. Bike tubes will break if they're big horses and pull hard enough. Hrmmm... I've never seen one of these used.... But I like everything about it except how easy it is to release.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2-bUqDTfVU
By "release" do you mean them getting more lead rope for them to move around on?
I couldn't believe that the tie ring was going to help me any with my gelding, but I was amazed by the results. I think for most horses it's a "okay, I can do this so I'm going to" mentality. My gelding hasn't set back but a handful of times with the tie ring (and to be completely honest I know he was going to do it, I was just in a hurry and didn't want to play his games) and once he pulls back just enough to think he's accomplished what he wants he will act like a normal, broke to stand tied horse. I'm too afraid to tie on the 3rd setting because the 2nd one does good enough for my gelding. I tried the 1st setting the first time I ever used it and he kept slowly pulling and pulling until he was loose.
I should also add that if someone is buying one, I highly suggest the ones that have a clip and you can easily clip it to your trailer tie ring and it's obviously portable unlike the ones that are more permanent to one location..... I have the actual screw part in a tree I tie to, but the clip is super handy if you have something study enough you can clip to. |
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Location: Alabama | The Tie Blocker did not work at all for my mare. I ended up using "The Clip" & she hardly ever pulled all the way through it.
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Location: Missouri | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-20 3:45 PM Here's my cure...I buy 16" bicycle innertubes at Walmart and don't cut them, but thread them through the trailer tie or fence and make a knot...then put your lead rope through both loops...they will stretch way out before they break, so buy a few in case he breaks some before he realizes he's not tied hard and fast...it broke my mare of pulling back and she was the worst one I've had in my life...I like the blocker too, but this is cheaper...before I was told about this years ago, I had to carry bungee cord leads and the whole mess with me everywhere I went, but this cured her of pulling back for good!!
Oh, I like this idea! Looks better than all my ratty hay strings! lol!
To the OP: I have two that pull back. One is a 4 y/o and I was absolutely NOT going to allow him to get away with it! I sent him off to a trainer as a 3 y/o, and imo, she taught him to fight like none other! (after he broke a couple of her halters, she quit tying him). I put the stoutest halter I could find on him (which are the GOOD rope halters without hardware) and I tied that dude for days. I would bring him water (that alone was enough to make him FREAK and set back again!), but left him tied for 10+ hours a day. He would fight and fight and my goodness, would he fight! He got better about being tied to his post, but would still pull back at the trailer. One day, instead of sitting back, he flopped himself over sideways. I think that incident scared some sense into him, b/c he hasn't sat back since.
My other horse that sets back does so only occasionally (when he gets spooked.) He is my open horse, 20 years old, and I just live with it. I tie hay strings to my trailer and tie him to those. That way, if he gets scared, he will break the string and not freak out. He breaks maybe two a year, but will stand tied all day otherwise. (BTW, they do make plastic rings for this. I'm just cheap. lol!)
A good rule to remember on the ones that have learned to break halters...either tie them so they can't get free, or don't tie at all. Letting him continue to break loose will prolong the process and make him even worse... |
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