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Location: Dubach, LA | *Disclaimer* Yes. They are there and I am not. Yes. They are great riders and horses. Yes. They got the invite. Yes. They won the big money. Yes. It's a dream come true for them. BUT
Watching this year's rounds the thought popped into my head that because of a very few invitational $100,000 rodeos, there are a few that don't belong at the NFR. You know - took a spot they didn't really earn. All of us that have been at this for a little bit know that our horses have that one arena where they excel. Thoughts????
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| I disagree. I think that what is showing up maybe more that some of these horses are not suited to this tiny arena. I think some of the girls' horses just don't fit this set up. If they were competing in a bigger arena and/or an outdoor arena you might see different results, jmo, though.  |
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Location: North Texas | I wouldn't say they "did not deserve" to be there, but I see where you are coming from and I agree. My bay mare can flat outrun the devil in some arenas, but haul her to Stephenville, TX and she couldn't outrun a fat milk cow.
It almost should be like on a point system rather than money earned, although I feel like that could be overly complicated...but it would "weight" the rodeos so that the 100k one run wonders wouldn't get a smooth easy trip to the big house. I actually don't know who we are referring to this year, as I haven't kept track much of the season...but I've seen it in the past and I get what you are saying. |
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Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | Yea, I probably could have worded it better, but you two get what I'm saying. One win gets you to the very top of the sport. That's not fair. |
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| The two that made the big bucks at Houston and Calgary were Kaley and Nancy. Kaley has qualified for the NFR 3 years now. Nancy is clocking great times and she did very well at the rodeos she did go to. Do you honestly believe they shouldn't be there because if so, I have to question if you are watching the same rodeo I am. I don't agree with Houston and Calgary counting. But to say anyone there at the NFR doesn't deserve to be there is crazy. I say that anyone there deserves to live that dream. |
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| Disagree, if you have enough horse power to win that big of race and earn that money, you deserve it just as much as any one else there. Some planned out to go to these big money races, that if won, makes it an easier road to the NFR. Smarter not harder! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | The can needs to be shut. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | SKM and Flying JT I agree with you. I would like to run down that alley but can't make that many runs getting to that spot. I'm impressed by the small numbers of rodeo's that Nancy ran at to make it. My dream year! OP, Nancy was the Circuit Champ by a country mile. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | You gotta play the game. It's part of it! |
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Location: Idaho | I dont agree with anyone not deserving to be there. I also am not against the two big rodeos that basically give a person the guarantee to the NFR. People say it is an unfair advantage. But I dont see it that way. A lot of the people against counting these rodeos are able to run at them and have just as much chance and winning there as the people who win them. How is it different than the theory of the American? Go to very few rodeos and still win big money? For some reason it seems like people think it is unfair that one person went to 100 rodeos where someone else went to 50 to qualify. Its about winning money at the right places. Wouldyou throw up a fit because the arena that your horse excells in was only $1000 added and an arena your horse hates adds $10,000? As for the NFR, it really isnt the best place to judge if someone deserves to be there. Its not every goodbhorses cup of tea. In fact its not your place to judge at all. Im guessing anyone of us would take that #15 spot with a Calgary win, any day! |
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The Advice Guru
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| Each and every one of the contestants deserves to be there and they have proved it throughout the runs.
Look at Brittany Pozzi she went to over 100 rodeos and never qualified
Nancy Hunter went to 23.
The term work smarter not harder comes into play. At the beginning of the year everyone knows what the rodeos are and the estimated purse. Barrel racers can then decide what rodeos they will go to and which horses work well in those rodeos.
I am all for preserving horses if they can make it in 23 rodeos great. That horse will not have the wear and tear of going down the road and will have a longer rodeo life. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.
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| So, would the origional poster be willing to give up their spot at the NFR if they won one of those big rodeos like Houston or Calgary and qualified. " Oh im sorry I won't be attending the NFR, its not fair to the other contestants because I only won a big rodeo, please roll up the next contestant to take my place". |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| lookout hill - 2014-12-11 10:07 AM It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.
I agree. Not only do Houston and Calgary add BIG money....They draw in TONS of contestants! If you are good enough to beat those top name contestants, you should be rewarded!
They didn't get handed that money, they still had to do a lot of work to win! |
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| Nateracer - 2014-12-11 11:11 AM
lookout hill - 2014-12-11 10:07 AM It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.
They didn't get handed that money, they still had to do a lot of work to win!
Its invitation only....not all and allowed to compete. |
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| SKM - 2014-12-11 9:43 AM
The two that made the big bucks at Houston and Calgary were Kaley and Nancy. Kaley has qualified for the NFR 3 years now. Nancy is clocking great times and she did very well at the rodeos she did go to. Do you honestly believe they shouldn't be there because if so, I have to question if you are watching the same rodeo I am. I don't agree with Houston and Calgary counting. But to say anyone there at the NFR doesn't deserve to be there is crazy. I say that anyone there deserves to live that dream.
I feel like Kaley's horse cowboy clocked so much better in there last year.... I think the ground has him on guard and he's not firing like he normally does! |
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| I'll open another can of worms. They should let ALL slot race and futurity/derby money count, since we are letting some open 4Ds count now.  |
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Miss Laundry Misshap
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| astreakinchic - 2014-12-11 10:18 AM Nateracer - 2014-12-11 11:11 AM lookout hill - 2014-12-11 10:07 AM It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.
They didn't get handed that money, they still had to do a lot of work to win! Its invitation only....not all and allowed to compete.
Even better then. They don't invite average joe "Rodeo Girls". They invite the best of the best. |
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Hugs to You
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | astreakinchic - 2014-12-11 11:20 AM I'll open another can of worms. They should let ALL slot race and futurity/derby money count, since we are letting some open 4Ds count now.
Edited by 3canstorun 2014-12-11 10:24 AM
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| 3canstorun - 2014-12-11 11:23 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-12-11 11:20 AM I'll open another can of worms. They should let ALL slot race and futurity/derby money count, since we are letting some open 4Ds count now.
Correct only the 1D money counts.
I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure RP was pushing for this and it is one of the many reasons she stepped down as director of the futurity and derby program for the WPRA
Edited by astreakinchic 2014-12-11 10:26 AM
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