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| I am going to get a puppy sometime next year! What breeds do you recommend that are good with horses, other dogs, and kids. Also short hair would be a big bonus! I don't like little yippy dogs, or dogs that herd the horses around. I want a medium size and not insane energy levels. I have been looking at border Collies, labs, and German Shepard. |
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| You are WAY off if you are looking at a Border Collie they are everything you just described you didn't want lol |
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| Sorry I should have specified A border collie MIX, I have seen some crazy border collies but mixed with a lab they seem to be a lot better.  |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Of the 3 you named a lab is by far your best bet. |
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| You might really like a grayhound! They are pretty chill most of the time, short hair, andnjust plain cool!
They do need thier exersize like all dogs but during down time they are really mellow. |
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           Location: Florida.. | Lab, Mutt, golden retriever, pitmix..id get a mutt personally..mini greyhounds are cool dogs to.
Border collies are very high energy
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      Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Labs can be high energy at times but with ours he gets to be outside almost all day to play so he isn't so bad plus he is getting out of the puppy stage now. But he is the best dog, listens so well, was a breeze to potty train, great around the horses and even better around kids(especially little little ones) |
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| All three dogs you are looking at I wouldn't recommend as none meet your requirements
Labs are very hyper/active dogs. They need their exercise and are a hunting dog. My lab finally settled down at the age of 10, even this past year she killed a prairie chicken and left it on the door step. I also cannot have cats as she kills them too. She also sheds a lot if she rolls on the floor during the spring she leaves a coat of hair behind.
Collie will wander looking for work if you are not working them enough, they also have a tendency to nip or bite strangers. My neighbour has one and he is at my house minutes after he is off the chain. All my neighbours collies have always nipped the heels of people entering the property. They will also chase horses if they get bored.
German shepards can have an aggressive streak in them hence why they use them in the police. My grandmother used to breed shepards for police and they were all aggressive putting people ontop of their cars when they came to visit.
With all three due to their characteristics of the breed, they have to be handled, trained, and conditioned immediately and constantly.
The breed I would suggest looking at is a walker, they are higher energy but gentle and friendly. My vet has one and she is the sweetest thing she doesn't wander, doesn't chase, and she was a rescue.
Another breed to look at is a retriever nice dogs I find they are more mellow then a lab and the ones I have been exposed to don't chase nor have they ever brought dinner home.
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| We have French Brittany's and love them ! They are smart, medium sized dogs that love to lay on the couch and go on trail rides with us. Wonderful kids dog and are super smart to train |
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       Location: Bennett, CO | Dogs are such a product of their environment. Some dogs need much more exercise and stimulation than others.... But a large part of what a dog is, is what they are raised to be.
i have labs and Golden Retrievers. Field trial lines... Lots of energy, need to be worked and have high drive. But they have never killed anything I didn't shoot. They know the neighbor chickens are off limits and these dogs are very high level duck hunting dogs. (Two qualified and competed at Master Nationals). My Golden is no more laid back than the labs.
there are genetic lines of labs and Goldens that are more of a "lay by the fireside" type... Lower energy level... But they also require care, exercise and stimulation.
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     Location: Texas | Labs like to chew on things a lot. Every German Shepherd I've had has been a bit crazy and not too good with kids. I absolutely LOVE Australian Shepherds. They do have a bit longer hair, but they are excellent dogs. Very intelligent, very good listeners, extremely good with children. I have a 5 month old baby and my Aussie 110% adores her. If you get an Aussie as a puppy you want to make sure you socialize them often. If not, they can become a bit defensive around other people.
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| I've had German Shepherds my whole life, and not one has been crazy or aggressive. They're not for everyone and you have to train them right and socialize them, but that's the same with almost all breeds. My current GSD is amazing with kids, and good with most other dogs. A good friend has two military trained K9s, both are great family dogs and the best I've ever seen around kids. It's all in how you train them. With a GSD you get out of them what you put in. If you do decide on a GSD and buy from a breeder, just do your research because different lines are different - working vs. show, American vs. German, etc. But I'd also recommend a Lab, Doberman or Golden Retriever. Mutts are also great.
Whatever you decide on, I hope you find the perfect dog!
ETA: German Shepherds are used for police work because they are intelligent, trainable, trustworthy, and versatile. You don't get very far trying to train an aggressive dog. The most important part of a police dog is their "off button", and that's too hard to get on a dog that is aggressive. :) 
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| alivewithmoney - 2014-12-21 11:57 PM
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       Location: fun meter pegged OK | jjrk49 - 2014-12-22 12:23 AM I've had German Shepherds my whole life, and not one has been crazy or aggressive. They're not for everyone and you have to train them right and socialize them, but that's the same with almost all breeds. My current GSD is amazing with kids, and good with most other dogs. A good friend has two military trained K9s, both are great family dogs and the best I've ever seen around kids. It's all in how you train them. With a GSD you get out of them what you put in. If you do decide on a GSD and buy from a breeder, just do your research because different lines are different - working vs. show, American vs. German, etc. But I'd also recommend a Lab, Doberman or Golden Retriever. Mutts are also great. Whatever you decide on, I hope you find the perfect dog! ETA: German Shepherds are used for police work because they are intelligent, trainable, trustworthy, and versatile. You don't get very far trying to train an aggressive dog. The most important part of a police dog is their "off button", and that's too hard to get on a dog that is aggressive. : ) 
I whole heartedly agree! I also have owned them all my life. GSD originally where bred and raised as herding dogs. I currently have a 1 yr old that does that right now. He will herd the cattle and he tried with my mare until he got to close and she clocked him. He now has a healthy respect and gives her space. None of my GSD have shown any aggressive behavior and were great with my kids. |
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    Location: Sebeka, MN | Corgi! Ours loves kids and just wants to hang out with us and our friends. |
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| I really think you would like a springer spaniel. They do have longer hair but if I didn't have my Aussies that would probably be the breed I would go to. |
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| We have a couple of whippets - they are great dogs!!! |
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     Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | We have 4 dogs, all ends of the spectrum.Our Doberman is a big ball of energy, but he also is only 2yrs old. Our Beagle is really cool and laid back, our Lab is just awesome, but he has a lot of hair. The calmest one we have truthfully is our coonhound we rescued from the pound but she is NOT the "norm". A lab would probably be your best bet, or adopting a shelter dog that you can get an idea of the temperment before you take it home.
Leah- That Dobie is GORGEOUS!
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| alivewithmoney - 2014-12-21 11:57 PM
I worked for a lady years ago who raised Dobermans. I don't know if it was just her bloodlines or what, but they were great dogs. She had a toddler at the time and they were good with him. I only remember one young dog that she had to get on to about leaving the horses alone.
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