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Location: Illinois | I just got my new mare in Oct and I am having an issue with her and her first barrel. No matter if I run her to the left or the right she wants to cut the first barrel off coming out of it. She drops her shoulder really bad and I always hit it with my foot because she is so close to the barrel. She gets really close to 2nd and 3rd as well but we don't usually hit it like the 1st. I just wondered if you had any suggestions on what I could do to get her out of this habit. I think a bit with more lift would help with the shoulder issue but what about her wanting to cut the barrel off? My old horse wouldn't go anywhere near the barrels so I am not used to knocking them and am at a loss.
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Location: Illinois | Anyone? |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Do you have a video you could maybe post? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'd give you some advise if I could lol. I'm just trotting the pattern now though. Could you possibly slow her down and do slow work around the barrels? Possible lope or trot to the barrel, stop and make her walk the route that you want her to....back her up if she doesn't do it right?
I am not a barrel racer, so if I told you something wrong I'm sorry, but it could be a place to start or something to try. Good luck. |
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Location: Illinois | I don't have any of me, I only have one of the girl I bought her from riding her and she doesn't hit the barrel. I don't know if it is something I am doing or if there is a trick that I don't know about. There is one on facebook of her hitting the first barrel but I don't know how to get it off and post it here. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 2:12 PM I don't have any of me, I only have one of the girl I bought her from riding her and she doesn't hit the barrel. I don't know if it is something I am doing or if there is a trick that I don't know about. There is one on facebook of her hitting the first barrel but I don't know how to get it off and post it here.
Are you using the same bit that she used? If she's new to you, it may just take slow work so you can learn each other.
Again, just trying to help, because no one else is lol. |
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Location: Oklahoma | It's hard to say without videos. I know when I start one, I want their 1st to be fast, so 3 strides maximum. Start with a tighter pocket, take aim to where it looks like her shoulder will hit the top part of the barrel, almost slice into it as a V. That will put her deeper into the backside, so she can clear it. Kinda like this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9uv_1zYqXo
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Location: Illinois | I appreciate your advice :). I think I do still need to learn her and how she runs, I am not using the same bit she did just because I put it on her and it was WAY to much bit for her. She hated it. The girl I got her from said you really need to hold her going into the first, I have never gotten past a slow lope going into the first so I don't think that is my issue. I think slow work is the answer, just didn't know if there was any specific drills I could try. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 2:23 PM I appreciate your advice :). I think I do still need to learn her and how she runs, I am not using the same bit she did just because I put it on her and it was WAY to much bit for her. She hated it. The girl I got her from said you really need to hold her going into the first, I have never gotten past a slow lope going into the first so I don't think that is my issue. I think slow work is the answer, just didn't know if there was any specific drills I could try.
There probably are lol. I'll get some help. Hang on :) |
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Location: Illinois | clover girl - 2014-12-22 2:21 PM
It's hard to say without videos. I know when I start one, I want their 1st to be fast, so 3 strides maximum. Start with a tighter pocket, take aim to where it looks like her shoulder will hit the top part of the barrel, almost slice into it as a V. That will put her deeper into the backside, so she can clear it. Kinda like this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9uv_1zYqXo
Ok, right now I am giving her a really wide pocket coming into it because that is what the girl said to do, with my old barrel horse I came in like you do in your video so that is how I am used to riding. I will have to give that a try and see if it helps. I will try to get a video next time I ride. |
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Location: Kentucky | Since it's the first barrel she is hitting, that's only one right turn and two lefts. Have you had her vetted yet? How old is she? I've noticed a lot of folks don't even use pockets anymore, so this mare may not benefit from that. |
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Location: Illinois | I have had her vetted clean, she is 16. She does it if I take her to the left as well so I don't think it is a pain issue. I guess I never thought about the pocket thing.. |
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Location: Illinois | LRQHS - 2014-12-22 2:24 PM
ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 2:23 PM I appreciate your advice :). I think I do still need to learn her and how she runs, I am not using the same bit she did just because I put it on her and it was WAY to much bit for her. She hated it. The girl I got her from said you really need to hold her going into the first, I have never gotten past a slow lope going into the first so I don't think that is my issue. I think slow work is the answer, just didn't know if there was any specific drills I could try.
There probably are lol. I'll get some help. Hang on :)
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Location: Kentucky | What bit are you riding her in? Is it the same as the previous owner? She may just be a horse you have to hustle. A video would greatly help. |
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Location: The edge of no where | It's really tough to be very helpful without a video...there's so many reasons that a horse will hit a barrel. However, if you're taking a really wide pocket going in, then you're going to hit more coming out. Move your pocket. Does she do this when you go at 3/4 speed or just when you run her? |
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Location: Illinois | Murphy - 2014-12-22 2:31 PM
What bit are you riding her in? Is it the same as the previous owner? She may just be a horse you have to hustle. A video would greatly help.
I am riding her in a CJ grasshopper (original) at the moment. I don't think it has enough lift on it. Her previous owner was riding her in a MJ Million Dollar bit and I just felt like that was way to much bit for her. She is super supple and responsive. I will try to get a video. |
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Location: Illinois | MS2011 - 2014-12-22 2:33 PM
It's really tough to be very helpful without a video...there's so many reasons that a horse will hit a barrel. However, if you're taking a really wide pocket going in, then you're going to hit more coming out. Move your pocket. Does she do this when you go at 3/4 speed or just when you run her?
She does it going at any speed, I will try and move my pocket in. I was just going by what the previous owner said to do. I will try to get a video ASAP as well. |
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Location: Kansas | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 2:35 PM MS2011 - 2014-12-22 2:33 PM It's really tough to be very helpful without a video...there's so many reasons that a horse will hit a barrel. However, if you're taking a really wide pocket going in, then you're going to hit more coming out. Move your pocket. Does she do this when you go at 3/4 speed or just when you run her? She does it going at any speed, I will try and move my pocket in. I was just going by what the previous owner said to do. I will try to get a video ASAP as well.
IMO when you give them a ton of room going in, two things happen and neither are good. 1 - the horses that really want to work will dive even harder at the barrel, or -2- you'll drag it over leaving. (This is why I've perfected the leg lift.....Clifford has a tendency to drag barrels over leaving and after hitting barrels cost us $2,000 in a summer, I decided I could move my foot out of the way LOL) |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Go take a lesson or 5 and fix your riding. That will fix your horse. It's like magic or something. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I'm gonna agree with the rest...too much pocket going in. A video would be so helpful. |
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