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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 11:50 AM
Subject: OT - legal input please. My boss is requiring me to break the law.



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Long story short, I work for a school district. The federal government mandates we serve the children at least one meal a day. Some of our children are on a free status for their meals. This information is supposed to stay condidentional. Only the application processor is supposed to know which children are approved for free meals.

Our cafeteria is only supposed to make as many meals as is ordered by the students every morning. Here is where the delima comes in...

Our boss is requiring that we make all students on a free application receive a meal meaning they must pick it up whether they want it or not. If a child on free application does not order we are to alter the morning lunch count to reflect they did. If the child does not pick up his meal our boss is requiring we make him take it.

So, my boss is requiring we 1. discriminate (by making a child pick up a lunch he does not simply because he or she is on free status) 2. Falsify records to reflect a purchase that was not made 3. Illegal release of confidential personal information and 4. Fraud

What do I do? I have tried to speak to my administrator who has spoke with our supe. Our supe knows what he is requiring is illegal but is mandating we do it anyway. I am not comfortable with any of this and feel that there must be a way to report it but still protect my employment.

Sorry for any errors. I'm using my phone.

Edited by cyount2009 2015-01-08 12:07 PM
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babiemox
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2015-01-08 12:09 PM
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Is what he's requesting in writing with his signature? I would document something to cover yourself incase this goes south. Maybe get a review of your meetings with the Supe outlining the topics covered and their actions they are taking.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-01-08 12:12 PM
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Id give it to a child that looks hungry.and not worry about it.  
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: OT - legal input please. My boss is requiring me to break the law.



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Bibliafarm - 2015-01-08 12:12 PM

Id give it to a child that looks hungry.and not worry about it.Β Β 

I wish it were that simple but it's not. The meal program is federally funded so there are strict rules and laws regarding this. Even if I did there is still matter of fraudulent paperwork.

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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-01-08 12:19 PM
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oh I didnt realize that. id report him or have parents report him saying child is being forced to take meals when they dont want them.  
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Posted 2015-01-08 12:19 PM
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cyount2009 - 2015-01-08 12:17 PM
Bibliafarm - 2015-01-08 12:12 PM Id give it to a child that looks hungry.and not worry about it.  
I wish it were that simple but it's not. The meal program is federally funded so there are strict rules and laws regarding this. Even if I did their is still matter of fraudulent paperwork.

I, personally, would give the paperwork to my boss and tell them that if they wanted to falsify the documents, then by all means go ahead, but my name would not be on that paperwork.  
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:32 PM
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babiemox - 2015-01-08 12:09 PM

Is what he's requesting in writing with his signature? I would document something to cover yourself incase this goes south. Maybe get a review of your meetings with the Supe outlining the topics covered and their actions they are taking.

I have requested it and the supe refers me back to my administrator who then tells me I have to do it because it is a directive from the supe.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:33 PM
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I'm a teacher in CA. We have a union. I assume you have a classified Union in your district? If so, I would talk to a union rep. Maybe make a call to the powers that be at the government level?
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:36 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-01-08 12:33 PM

I'm a teacher in CA. We have a union. I assume you have a classified Union in your district? If so, I would talk to a union rep. Maybe make a call to the powers that be at the government level?

We do have a union and they are looking into it. I did call the CA DOE and they are supposed to be getting back to me. When I explained to the county Analyst what was being requested she sounded a little disgruntled. Hopefully I will get answers from somewhere.
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azsun
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-01-08 12:50 PM
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National Labor Relations Board? Your state Department of Labor?

Edited by azsun 2015-01-08 12:51 PM
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-01-08 12:53 PM
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They removed a teacher and principal from our school district for submitting wrongful info and getting free lunches.  The principal made $90K plus a year.  The teacher also was removed. 

I would not break the law, make your sup do it.  He is doing this so the school can continue to get free lunches and meet a status quo.  Actually, in our area the whole DISTRICT, EVERY CHILD gets free breakfast and lunch.  They have cheated so long and only now are they investigating this "crime".    It goes to show you how corrupt the school systems are every where. 

And, the funding is all included in the farm bill................................... 

I hate a liar and a thief.
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:56 PM
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If you do it, you are just as responsible as they are.  Let them fire you, that would be entertaining watching them try to defend that one in court. 
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 12:59 PM
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3canstorun - 2015-01-08 12:53 PM

They removed a teacher and principal from our school district for submitting wrongful info and getting free lunches.Β  The principal made $90K plusΒ a year.Β  The teacher also was removed.Β 

I would not break the law, make your sup do it.Β  He is doing this so the school can continue to get free lunches and meet a status quo.Β  Actually, in our area the whole DISTRICT, EVERY CHILD gets free breakfast and lunch.Β  They have cheated so long and only now are they investigating this "crime".Β Β Β  It goes to show you how corrupt the school systems are every where.Β 

And, the fundingΒ is all included in the farm bill...................................Β 

I hate a liar and a thief.

Oh trust me, I'm not going to do it. I just don't know how to protect myself for not doing it.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-01-08 1:06 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 12:56 PM If you do it, you are just as responsible as they are.  Let them fire you, that would be entertaining watching them try to defend that one in court. 

OOOOOH This is true!!! Grab paperwork, take pics, record a meeting with the Supe and Administrator. They can't deny that's their voice when you say Now Supe (Insert name here) and they resapond. LOL

My mother moved to a private school after being a professor at a college, and a middle school teacher at a public school. Now she teaches kindergarten at a private school with no federal funding of any kind. The pay cut was hard on her at first before her raises, but she enjoys her job and her clear conscience. 

Good luck to you in all of this. I can only imagine wat a pickle you're in... Prayers 
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luckyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2015-01-08 1:09 PM
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Ask for the instructions in writing. If provided, do what you're told cause you've got 'em by the gonads. If nothing in writing is provided, do as you wish;)
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-01-08 1:10 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 12:56 PM

If you do it, you are just as responsible as they are.Β  Let them fire you, that would be entertaining watching them try to defend that one in court.Β 

This is exactly what I told my administrator. I know it's wrong and would be just as at fault if not more so when the states catches wind of this.
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barrelrider
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-01-08 1:20 PM
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I would report your district to the State agency. If you don't get any results, then go to the Federal agency. I'd bet that the Sup is in on the falsifying records as well.

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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-01-08 1:25 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 1:56 PM If you do it, you are just as responsible as they are.  Let them fire you, that would be entertaining watching them try to defend that one in court. 

THis ^^^^^

I would ask for the directions in a handwritten form.  After I got them, I would look at them and say I was not going to do it.  It is against the law.  All the while, I would have my phone in my pocket on voice message record. 


 
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2015-01-08 1:29 PM
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cyount2009 - 2015-01-08 12:32 PM
babiemox - 2015-01-08 12:09 PM Is what he's requesting in writing with his signature? I would document something to cover yourself incase this goes south. Maybe get a review of your meetings with the Supe outlining the topics covered and their actions they are taking.
I have requested it and the supe refers me back to my administrator who then tells me I have to do it because it is a directive from the supe.

If you don't have the directive in writing, if they get caught, they'll make you the fall guy. 
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2015-01-08 1:31 PM
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I am a teacher as well. Do you have educator insurance? In Georgia, we pay monthly for insurance which could be used in instances such as this. I'd call my insurer for guidance and directives on how to proceed. If necessary, they also provide legal intervention in situations. In Georgia we have two providers: Professional Association of Georgia Educators (PAGE) and Georgia Association of Educators (GAE). They'd tell you how to proceed and offer the best guidance. 
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