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Location: Middle Tennessee | He feels like a bag of bricks on the end of my reins when I try to ask him to turn lately. He warms up great and has been to the vet recently. Vet found a lung infection but no lameness issues at all.
This horse is very seasoned. I'm thinking its the infection messing with him, but I've never had him just completely ignore my cues on all three barrels.
Could a different bit help?
He is on antimicrobial medicine and I also bought a nebulizer and I'm treating him with Equi-Silver as well (per vet).
Edited by RodeoGirlJodi 2015-02-06 3:06 PM
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Location: Alberta | Are you running him with the infection?......ok you are.......I'd get him healed up from that before I run him.....
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Location: Middle Tennessee | Vet said it was okay to keep working him. He said to continue my regular routine.
Edited by RodeoGirlJodi 2015-02-06 1:16 PM
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| Not trying to be rude but I would look at finding a different vet or opinion. Lung infections are very serious and I certainly would not be working one if they had one even with medicine and a nebulizer. He probably feels heavy on your hands when you ask him to turn because he is exerting so much energy when his lungs are not 100%. It would be like someone with asthma and no inhaler or training trying to run a marathon. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | Regardless of what the vet said. I would give him time off to recoop. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | SMH......Would you run a 200 yd dash with pneumonia? I would be looking for a new vet if mine told me that it was OK to run him with a lung infection.....no, I don't think a different bit will help......getting healthy is the help he needs. |
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Location: Alberta | Lyric203 - 2015-02-05 3:38 PM Not trying to be rude but I would look at finding a different vet or opinion. Lung infections are very serious and I certainly would not be working one if they had one even with medicine and a nebulizer. He probably feels heavy on your hands when you ask him to turn because he is exerting so much energy when his lungs are not 100%. It would be like someone with asthma and no inhaler or training trying to run a marathon.
This.......he likely has had the infction for a while cause he hasn't had a chance to heal from it....you may have more problems then you want to if you don't let him heal....each to their own, good luck..... |
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Location: Kansas | I have a gelding who battles breathing issues and displays asthma-like symptoms part of the time. That said, I NEVER run him if he's not breathing well when I work him at home. Too easy to cause big problems with the lungs if you run them with an infection or other issue. Even if my vet told me I could run a horse with a lung infection, I wouldn't. No way no how. |
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| Running with a lung infection is animal abuse. The reason is you are askng them to run their heart out with inflamed lungs ( this is what happens with any infection) with inflammation comes pain. You are also forcing him to run when he is short of air, this is like making a bleeder run, or asking you to run a marathon with pneumonia, chances are you would want to be in bed with nebulizers, pain killers, and antibiotics, so why not your horse?
Further more since you are running him while all of this is going on, he will develop scar tissue, as each time he is running and unable to process oxygen at a fast enough level, cell die off.
This will in turn cause the horse to have chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or as others call it heaves. There are different degrees of severity, some horses have to have watered down hay, some cannot be in an indoor arena, time will tell you how bad yours will be if you continue to run your horse while sick
I would be finding a different vet.
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Location: Here | Lyric203 - 2015-02-05 4:38 PM Not trying to be rude but I would look at finding a different vet or opinion. Lung infections are very serious and I certainly would not be working one if they had one even with medicine and a nebulizer. He probably feels heavy on your hands when you ask him to turn because he is exerting so much energy when his lungs are not 100%. It would be like someone with asthma and no inhaler or training trying to run a marathon.
I would do a little more research on nebs. and get another opinion |
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Location: Here | cheryl makofka - 2015-02-05 10:24 PM Running with a lung infection is animal abuse. The reason is you are askng them to run their heart out with inflamed lungs ( this is what happens with any infection) with inflammation comes pain. You are also forcing him to run when he is short of air, this is like making a bleeder run, or asking you to run a marathon with pneumonia, chances are you would want to be in bed with nebulizers, pain killers, and antibiotics, so why not your horse? Further more since you are running him while all of this is going on, he will develop scar tissue, as each time he is running and unable to process oxygen at a fast enough level, cell die off. This will in turn cause the horse to have chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or as others call it heaves. There are different degrees of severity, some horses have to have watered down hay, some cannot be in an indoor arena, time will tell you how bad yours will be if you continue to run your horse while sick I would be finding a different vet.
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Location: Middle Tennessee | I haven't ridden him since I've been to the vet. You people just assume. All I said was that my vet said it was okay to continue riding him. Never said I have been.
His turning issues occurred and then I took him to the vet. Haven't ridden since. I was just curious if all of this is coming from the infection or if a new bit may help when it comes time to ride him. |
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| RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-02-06 8:56 AM
I haven't ridden him since I've been to the vet. You people just assume. All I said was that my vet said it was okay to continue riding him. Never said I have been.
His turning issues occurred and then I took him to the vet. Haven't ridden since. I was just curious if all of this is coming from the infection or if a new bit may help when it comes time to ride him.
I sort of feel like you're about to get eaten on here, since you really contradicted your first post just now.
That said, I'm glad you're not riding him. Breathing problems are hellish. I would just get him well again before I'd start changing bits. Maybe a full lameness exam when he's at your NEW vet getting his lungs scoped to see if his respiratory system is okay to go might be beneficial.
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| Had friends who knew their horse was bleeding and treated with some oral antibiotics 3 weeks after they saw blood. I told and told them the horse was bleeding WAY before they ever got antibiotics but the local dog and cat vet said ahh he's fine you can run him just treat with TMZ for a few days.
When they finally after 3 months had a BAL done and cultures he had 3 different kinds of bacterial in his lungs, scaring in his lungs and trach, and he required IV antibiotics to NOT die on them. Please do not run a horse that has a lung infection there is a possibility that his lung infection was actually caused by bleeding. This condition if serve enough can cause your horse to bleed out and die. |
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| RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-02-06 8:56 AM
I haven't ridden him since I've been to the vet. You people just assume. All I said was that my vet said it was okay to continue riding him. Never said I have been.
His turning issues occurred and then I took him to the vet. Haven't ridden since. I was just curious if all of this is coming from the infection or if a new bit may help when it comes time to ride him.
Don't get defensive, I don't think any one is jumping on you. I think everyone on here is more surprised and can not believe that your vet would tell you that it is ok. You are only doing what the vet told you was ok to do. Good thing you came on here because these people gave you good advise and may have saved you money and your horses well being. I too, can not believe your vet would tell you it's ok.... Did he/she tell you how severe the infection was, upper,lower? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-02-06 8:56 AM I haven't ridden him since I've been to the vet. You people just assume. All I said was that my vet said it was okay to continue riding him. Never said I have been. His turning issues occurred and then I took him to the vet. Haven't ridden since. I was just curious if all of this is coming from the infection or if a new bit may help when it comes time to ride him.
Great!!!! And now you have been given some very good advice here....... |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | mruggles - 2015-02-05 4:33 PM wow..just wow.....................
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Location: North Dakota | I wouldn't be mad at everyone for thinking you've been running him. You're post REALLY makes it sound that way. I'd wait until he's healed before thinking about bits. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Horse doing well before...now he is sick and not turning well. I don't see the logic in thinking that the bit is the problem.
If he ran well in the bit before...I'd say get him rest and get him healthy. Bring him back easy and use that time to work on responsiveness to cues while not on the pattern.
I am hoping your vet misspoke or you misunderstood. Doing your same routine as far as feeding and care sure. But continuing to work a horse with a lung infection is just doesn't seem right at all. |
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