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if you had to choose, proven or pedigree

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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-02-09 10:53 AM
Subject: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree


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I know there are both out there!

but if you had to choose between breeding your proven mare to a stud that is proven and his colts are too but is lacking the pedigree, or would you breed that mare to a young stud or injured with the proven pedigree

opinions please!!!
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WrapSnap
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-02-09 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree


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That would depend on why I was breeding. If I were breeding for myself, I might breed to the lesser known stud. If I am thinking reseale, I'm going to the proven pedigree all day long!
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-02-09 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree



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For myself: Proven without the packed pedigree.
For sale: Packed pedgree, young or injured stud.

In a perfect world, proven and packed pedigree :)
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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2015-02-09 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree


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it would be for myself, and possibly sell down the road
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-02-09 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree



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At this point they have to have both for me.

But, if they already have offspring that are winning, then i will overlook the stallions performance record since it's proven that his babies are winning already.

If they are young stallions with no offspring of competition age, I really have to see that the stallion himself was successful.

Pedigree is a must have because there's so many horses out there, I have to have things that set mine apart and make mine sellable. grandget of frenchmans guy are a dime a dozen so there has to be more to the story than just that, for example.
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2015-02-09 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree


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Good question. If there's a possibility of selling later, I'd go with both. Imo, a proven stallion is one that has proven that he can produce. 
Just looking at the LG Pro Classic Sale coming up, you'd better be packing going in there. I tend to look at pedigree first for sale horses, then I look at what the sire and dam have done. I'm looking for a complete package. If the pedigree doesn't appease me, I tend to skim past them.
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-02-09 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree


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I want both. You can always save for next year to get both. Breed for quality, not quantity. However, with that said, if I had to choose, then I would take the young, unproven stallion over the proven performer with no pedigree. There are always some horses who will out perform their pedigree themselves, but wont pass that on. However genetics are hard to fight. Pedigree will always sell. No pedigree on a foal the market value plumets and so do the number of prospective buyers. The last few years I have seen some young, upcomming stallions with tremendouse pedigrees! If your shopping in that catagory the trick is to choose wisely one you believe is going to be a sire and that horse has the connections to promote him correctly. If he's not promoted correctly, and put in the incentives, he will  still fall off the map and you still have a cheap foal with very little marketability.
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-02-09 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree



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 6 years ago I took a gamble and bred to a stallion who's pedigree was flawless, but he had yet to prove himself......so glad I followed my gut...stallion is now a rodeo earning, rodeo finals, 1D horse..his oldest foals will compete in 2015....

 
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Leo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2015-02-10 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: if you had to choose, proven or pedigree



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In this situation, go with the pedigree. If something were to happen and you needed to sell, pedigree is a strong selling point. Not everyone may have heard of the proven stud with the lesser pedigree and it stinks selling a baby for peanuts because no one realy knows the papers.
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