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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-02-09 11:29 PM
Subject: Saddles with bar flare?



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What saddles have the best bar shoulder flare? I have been trying to fit my mare and it is being a pain! Tonight my good friend that does saddle fitting, fit her in a ROOHIDE cutting saddle. Oh man what an amazing saddle! It was older, but it felt like an old glove when I sat in it. I loped some circles and could feel a huge difference. She told my mare needs a 6ish gullet. 8 top bar and 13 bottom bar. Any one know which way to look for brands with theses types of similar measurements?
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-10 7:30 AM
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I don't know about exact measurements and my saddles are all out in the trailer but the Cactus Charmayne James has a lot of flare.  
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-02-10 7:36 AM
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Also not sure of exact measurements, but Meleta Brown saddles have a lot of flare and shoulder room. You can find some great used ones, they are so well made, they look new yrs later. 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-10 7:47 AM
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I found a picture that I took of the front of one of my CJ's.  It doesn't show it with a tape measure but you can see the flare. 



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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-02-10 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Saddles with bar flare?



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Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2015-02-10 8:51 AM
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 Lynn Mckenzie by Double J.

Meleta is on here, message her to ask about the actual numbers on her tree! Sorry, but I can't remember her username. I'm sure someone else knows it. 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-10 9:09 AM
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cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere

I'll measure mine when I go out.  We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL  
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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-02-10 9:11 AM
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Wimpyb is meleta and she is AMAIZING she has 2 trees both with a TON of shoulder flair. Her original tree is for a horse with more rock in there back or a dip behind the shoulder the other is for a horse with a table top back. I found a used meleta original and snatched it up and absolutely love it
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cowgirl_3207
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-02-10 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Saddles with bar flare?



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CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 7:09 AM

cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere

I'll measure mine when I go out.  We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL  

I would appreciate that greatly! I have asked 5 or 6 people for those measurements and They either have NO clue what I am asking for or dont get back to me. These aren't cheap saddles, I dont want to buy and then have to resale to purchase something else that might work. How do you like the seat on your cactus? I am pretty use to a deep pocket type seat.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-10 10:42 AM
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cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 9:13 AM
CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 7:09 AM
cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere
I'll measure mine when I go out.  We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL  
I would appreciate that greatly! I have asked 5 or 6 people for those measurements and They either have NO clue what I am asking for or dont get back to me. These aren't cheap saddles, I dont want to buy and then have to resale to purchase something else that might work. How do you like the seat on your cactus? I am pretty use to a deep pocket type seat.

I personally like them.  I bought my first one when CJ moved to Cactus so I've had it quite a few years.  I now have 3 of them. I wouldn't call them a deep seat.  They are lower in the swells than some saddles but I've tried those deep seated saddles and I personally don't like them.  I think its what you get used to and what works for you. I promise I'll get you some measurements.  It might be later today before I do it.  
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CdnJunebug
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2015-02-10 12:19 PM
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Double J - contact them about their Pro and Buff models.  I have the Buff and the flare is amazing in it.  Couldn't be happier with the freedom that it provides my big shouldered gelding while still giving me a 6 3/4 gullet.  Took this horse from being sore and not clocking to major improvement. 
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nvrenuf
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-02-10 4:36 PM
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The Contender made by Shiloh Saddlery has a flared bar as well. 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-11 7:08 AM
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I snapped some pictures of the measurements.  Can I text them to you so it would be quicker than me trying to resize?  You can mssg me your cell if you want. 
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-02-11 10:14 AM
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Meleta Browns and LMs by Double J I know have flared bars.  Love them both, prefer the Meleta.  And she will be more then happy to help anyone!  Just give her time to respond as I know she isn't on a computer a lot. 
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-02-11 1:18 PM
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You can get a Double J with regular or wide fit tree with nearly any angled bars.  Double J and Martin as well as CIRCLE Y make their own trees.  Most dealers have trees to sit on your horse to actually see how the tree will fit.  It is hard to see how a saddle is actually fitting once it is built.  If you can't get with a dealer, go to the sites they will send you a saddle to try for three days.
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charlenenh
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-12 6:15 AM
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How do u know info on the bar if your saddle isn't name brand or is an older ranch saddle? I know measurements but how to u know if one flares etc?
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: Saddles with bar flare?


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charlenenh - 2015-02-12 6:15 AM How do u know info on the bar if your saddle isn't name brand or is an older ranch saddle? I know measurements but how to u know if one flares etc?

If one flares out it will look like the saddle I posted above. I'll see if I can find a picture of one that's straight.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 7:16 AM
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Here's a Brandi halls that is considered to have FQHB just like my CJ.  This picture isn't the best but its all I have on the computer without going to the trailer.  You can see a little bit how its real straight going down to the skirt.



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jschipper
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2015-02-12 11:06 AM
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I own a meleta, a lm nueva, and a pozzi. All three have differing degrees of flare. pozzi has the least of the 3, meleta has more, nueva has the most :)
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Lookin For Diamonds
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2015-02-12 11:33 AM
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Anyway you would post of picture of your pozzi and your Meleta stacked to see the difference. Is your Pozzi the standard tree?  
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