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 A Gopher's Worst Nightmare
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    Location: Southern Oregon | What saddles have the best bar shoulder flare? I have been trying to fit my mare and it is being a pain! Tonight my good friend that does saddle fitting, fit her in a ROOHIDE cutting saddle. Oh man what an amazing saddle! It was older, but it felt like an old glove when I sat in it. I loped some circles and could feel a huge difference. She told my mare needs a 6ish gullet. 8 top bar and 13 bottom bar. Any one know which way to look for brands with theses types of similar measurements? |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | I don't know about exact measurements and my saddles are all out in the trailer but the Cactus Charmayne James has a lot of flare. |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Also not sure of exact measurements, but Meleta Brown saddles have a lot of flare and shoulder room. You can find some great used ones, they are so well made, they look new yrs later. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | I found a picture that I took of the front of one of my CJ's. It doesn't show it with a tape measure but you can see the flare.
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 A Gopher's Worst Nightmare
Posts: 5094
    Location: Southern Oregon | Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere
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 Thick and Wavy
Posts: 6102
   Location: Nebraska | Lynn Mckenzie by Double J.
Meleta is on here, message her to ask about the actual numbers on her tree! Sorry, but I can't remember her username. I'm sure someone else knows it. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere
I'll measure mine when I go out. We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL |
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 The BHW Book Worm
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| Wimpyb is meleta and she is AMAIZING she has 2 trees both with a TON of shoulder flair. Her original tree is for a horse with more rock in there back or a dip behind the shoulder the other is for a horse with a table top back. I found a used meleta original and snatched it up and absolutely love it |
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 A Gopher's Worst Nightmare
Posts: 5094
    Location: Southern Oregon | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 7:09 AM
cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere
I'll measure mine when I go out. We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL
I would appreciate that greatly! I have asked 5 or 6 people for those measurements and They either have NO clue what I am asking for or dont get back to me. These aren't cheap saddles, I dont want to buy and then have to resale to purchase something else that might work. How do you like the seat on your cactus? I am pretty use to a deep pocket type seat. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 9:13 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 7:09 AM cowgirl_3207 - 2015-02-10 8:44 AM Thank you ladies. I have a few emails out on some Meleta brown's barrel saddles as well as the cactus saddles. Does anyone know for sure how much of a bar flare that those two saddles have? I looked them up last night and couldn't find the bottom bar and top bar width measurements anywhere I'll measure mine when I go out. We've got freezing rain right now so not sure when I'll toughen up enough to go out in it. LOL I would appreciate that greatly! I have asked 5 or 6 people for those measurements and They either have NO clue what I am asking for or dont get back to me. These aren't cheap saddles, I dont want to buy and then have to resale to purchase something else that might work. How do you like the seat on your cactus? I am pretty use to a deep pocket type seat.
I personally like them. I bought my first one when CJ moved to Cactus so I've had it quite a few years. I now have 3 of them. I wouldn't call them a deep seat. They are lower in the swells than some saddles but I've tried those deep seated saddles and I personally don't like them. I think its what you get used to and what works for you. I promise I'll get you some measurements. It might be later today before I do it. |
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      Location: Canada | Double J - contact them about their Pro and Buff models. I have the Buff and the flare is amazing in it. Couldn't be happier with the freedom that it provides my big shouldered gelding while still giving me a 6 3/4 gullet. Took this horse from being sore and not clocking to major improvement. |
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   Location: who knows? | The Contender made by Shiloh Saddlery has a flared bar as well. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | I snapped some pictures of the measurements. Can I text them to you so it would be quicker than me trying to resize? You can mssg me your cell if you want. |
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  Damn Yankee
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Meleta Browns and LMs by Double J I know have flared bars. Love them both, prefer the Meleta. And she will be more then happy to help anyone! Just give her time to respond as I know she isn't on a computer a lot. |
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Expert
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  Location: The Great Northwest | You can get a Double J with regular or wide fit tree with nearly any angled bars. Double J and Martin as well as CIRCLE Y make their own trees. Most dealers have trees to sit on your horse to actually see how the tree will fit. It is hard to see how a saddle is actually fitting once it is built. If you can't get with a dealer, go to the sites they will send you a saddle to try for three days. |
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    Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | How do u know info on the bar if your saddle isn't name brand or is an older ranch saddle? I know measurements but how to u know if one flares etc? |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | charlenenh - 2015-02-12 6:15 AM How do u know info on the bar if your saddle isn't name brand or is an older ranch saddle? I know measurements but how to u know if one flares etc?
If one flares out it will look like the saddle I posted above. I'll see if I can find a picture of one that's straight. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Here's a Brandi halls that is considered to have FQHB just like my CJ. This picture isn't the best but its all I have on the computer without going to the trailer. You can see a little bit how its real straight going down to the skirt.
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 Elite Veteran
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       Location: Alberta, Canada | I own a meleta, a lm nueva, and a pozzi. All three have differing degrees of flare. pozzi has the least of the 3, meleta has more, nueva has the most :) |
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Elite Veteran
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      Location: USA | Anyway you would post of picture of your pozzi and your Meleta stacked to see the difference. Is your Pozzi the standard tree? |
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