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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-11 8:27 PM
Subject: Using ranitidine as needed??


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Opinions on using ranitidine as needed during stressful times at proper dosage (6.6mg per kg body weight q8h) to prevent ulcers due to stress. Such as barrel races or traveling.
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-11 8:42 PM
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We have done this with some success. We recently did it with on who had a hock injury and infection while he was receiving bute. It really helped his weight.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-11 9:10 PM
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I would rather use omeprazole.

Interested to hear what the cost is for Zantac to "treat" a horse
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-11 9:18 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2015-02-11 9:10 PM

I would rather use omeprazole.

Interested to hear what the cost is for Zantac to "treat" a horse

Since we had one at the vet I can tell you what it costs for us there, about $10 a day but they were giving a double dose and said we could halve it. He had really lost weight from the pain. He's gained almost all of it back now. We buy the generic and its pretty affordable. We treat for the whole month for about $85. We had another older gelding who had gone off his feed and was losing weight. We just fed him a bit (maybe $30 a month for him). He put the weight back on quick too.

ETA: Omeprazole is really the best way to treat ulcers. I really think of Ranitidine more as a preventative but it is good for that. It relieves their symptoms well enough they can eat or perform better for a short time if they have gone off. If you know they have ulcers already Omeprazole is better to treat and then ranitidine more to help with some short term stuff seems to help. We also feed Forco to help them with a healthy gut. The vet recommended ranitidine for our guy to prevent ulcers while he was on bute so long.

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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-11 10:20 PM
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Cost wise at that dose for a 1000# horse I worked it out to $100/ month using the Walmart brand ranitidine at $10 for 220 count 150mg pills. Giving 20 pills q8h.

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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-11 10:59 PM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2015-02-11 10:20 PM

Cost wise at that dose for a 1000# horse I worked it out to $100/ month using the Walmart brand ranitidine at $10 for 220 count 150mg pills. Giving 20 pills q8h.

Do you have a coffee grinder?

Is Zantac pills enteric coated? If so then you have to give pills whole

Cost wise, I can buy omeprazole enteric coated granules 90/month and only have to give it once, much less hassle.

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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2015-02-11 11:33 PM
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 I will have omeprazole for research purposes soon within the next 2 weeks.When I get it I will explain how it will work.
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-02-12 7:17 AM
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The product I use is Tri-Ulcer.  It has omeprazole, ranitidine, and sucralfate.  I've used it to cure ulcers on a prescribed program very successfully.  I also use it pre-race or pre-travel for my nervous horses at a much lower dosage.  Works great either way.   
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-12 8:31 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2015-02-11 10:59 PM

RoaniePonie11 - 2015-02-11 10:20 PM

Cost wise at that dose for a 1000# horse I worked it out to $100/ month using the Walmart brand ranitidine at $10 for 220 count 150mg pills. Giving 20 pills q8h.

Do you have a coffee grinder?

Is Zantac pills enteric coated? If so then you have to give pills whole

Cost wise, I can buy omeprazole enteric coated granules 90/month and only have to give it once, much less hassle.


We give the pills whole. No problems.
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-12 9:00 AM
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If using Omeprazole on an as needed basis (travel, etc), you need to start dosing 4 days out, as it takes that long for the horse to feel the results of it working.  Ranitidine the horse gets relief immediately.  Both durgs will do the job, one just offers immediate relief and the other takes a few days to give the horse relief.  If I were going to use it on an as needed basis I would probably use Ranitidine over Omeprazole.  If you're treating daily for a month or more, Omeprazole is very effective.   
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 9:10 AM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2015-02-12 8:17 AM The product I use is Tri-Ulcer.  It has omeprazole, ranitidine, and sucralfate.  I've used it to cure ulcers on a prescribed program very successfully.  I also use it pre-race or pre-travel for my nervous horses at a much lower dosage.  Works great either way.   

Do you get that from your vet?  
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Flamin10
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 9:28 AM
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I have my mare on it daily with Aloe Vera Juice and she does great. I use it daily due to her being so nervous all the time. You can give it every 8 hours, I give once a day normally and then before I haul anywhere the day before I give twice a day and then while gone twice a day and then still twice a day for 2 days when I get home then back off to once a day. I buy mine at Sam's Club and you get a big box for A LOT cheaper than anywhere else that at least I've been able to find (190 pills for just under $9). If you don't have a membership then ask your friends if they have one and you can go in with them and get it or they can get it for you.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-02-12 9:37 AM
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I use ranitidine as needed. My vet orders me the 300mg/250 ct, costs about $80 a month. I also use it to treat ulcers, it just takes a little longer, and works best when you can give the horse a few months rest. I give 10 pills in the am and 10 in the pm, day before, of, and after. If I have a horse on meds, i'll give the ranitidine with it just to be on the safe side. I have also dosed my husband with it when he gets reflux really bad, just one pill though.
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bennie1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-12 9:39 AM
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So, the pills. Do you put them in the feed whole and horse eats them?
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-02-12 9:41 AM
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I crush mine or dissolve them in water and then poor over the feed. My horses would pick them out in an instant!
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-12 10:13 AM
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The horse pills are big enough they need to be crushed. The human ones are small enough our horses gobble them right up with their feed.
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-02-12 10:19 AM
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fulltiltfilly - 2015-02-12 9:10 AM
lonely va barrelxr - 2015-02-12 8:17 AM The product I use is Tri-Ulcer.  It has omeprazole, ranitidine, and sucralfate.  I've used it to cure ulcers on a prescribed program very successfully.  I also use it pre-race or pre-travel for my nervous horses at a much lower dosage.  Works great either way.   
Do you get that from your vet?  




Yes, it is a prescription.  Comes from Veterinary Pharmacies of America.  Just got another 15 tubes in for about $250.  Takes 10 tubes for cure, 1/5 of a tube for pre-race or pre-travel seems to be the optimal doseage.   
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2015-02-12 10:55 AM
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I bet you can get it a lot cheaper at Sam's or Costco than Walmart 
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runaround
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 11:59 AM
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Ranitidine is fast acting and works while it's in the system. Omeprazole takes longer to work and will actually treat the ulcers. They work differently and are used for different things.

I have an ulcer prone horse. I cured with omperazole for a few years. As a preventative for relapse, I treat during stressful times with ranitidine.

Ranitidine is really cost effective for a weekend of barrel racing. Just giving them ulcer guard (omep) for a weekend doesn't do much. Really needs to be a long term thing if you're using omeprazole.
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Flamin10
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-02-12 1:02 PM
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My gelding I had to crush them or he wouldn't eat them. My mare. I just put some aloe vera juice in her feed and her bucket is shiny and licked clean every time. Try first without crushing and if he/she doesn't like it, then try with crushing it and mixing with apple sauce or something to alter the bitter taste.
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