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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | I have a horse that came up very sore in his lower back a couple days ago. He has not been ridden but maybe twice in the last 3 or 4 months, so there's absolutely no way it's saddle fit. It happened once before when he was lame on a front leg. I assumed it was due to him compensating as it went away after a couple weeks. He acts afraid of the saddle and pad (not normal) and if I run a finger down either side of his spine, when I hit his lower back/kidney area he'll sink his back way down and all the muscles along his back will spasm. He has not shown any other issues. He is on Silver Lining Herbs Kidney Support, which was recommended for his stocking up issue. He was off it for about a week b/c I ran out so I'm wondering if his actual kidneys are sore. Or perhaps it was just a coincidence. Idk, what would you guys have looked at first?
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | before my horse had his stifle surgery he would come up sore in that area due to compensation he would stock up on his right hind ankle as well. it all stopped after his surgery/post op care. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | they get sore there a lot from over compensating for other issues. My friends did it because of hocks, mine did because of pelvis. I would say anything from the hips down to hocks is a good place to start. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | Someone please shoot me. None of my horses are ever sound ever. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-14 10:53 AM
Someone please shoot me. None of my horses are ever sound ever.
I'll stand up beside you. I am feeling that way too. Mine are doing it to themselves. I have yet to have one get hurt that I am hauling. Turds conjure up accidents in pasture  |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-14 12:14 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-14 10:53 AM Someone please shoot me. None of my horses are ever sound ever. I'll stand up beside you. I am feeling that way too. Mine are doing it to themselves. I have yet to have one get hurt that I am hauling. Turds conjure up accidents in pasture
I have never even gotten to the point of competing on one of my own. They recieve excellent care, live in a safe environment, and I do as much as I can afford for them, but something mysteriously always goes wrong. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | He is only 6. That's around the time their hocks fuse isn't it? I still really don't know what that means but I know it can hurt. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have one that is 5 this yr. Rode him once, loped some circles etc mid Dec. 1st time he had been ridden since last fall. Rode him a week later and he was sore picking up right lead. Gave him 2 weeks off and he is still sore when I ask for the right lead. Takes the left one and long trots fine. Might be hocks. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | My other one has to see the vet so I'll make it double whammy. Boy do I wish I had a trailer! Trying to bum rides off people is getting very old. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | Geesh he was even worse today. I wonder if he's getting sore from being tense, as the footing in his pen, like the rest of the farm, is kinda slick.
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The Advice Guru
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-15 1:01 AM
Geesh he was even worse today.
Please say your not trying to ride him still.
If he is get
In he is getting worse by doing nothing a few things to check
EPM as from what I have read on here, this could be a great possibility
PSSM, he could be tying up
Cushings, again tying up from insulin sensitivity
I would get blood work done, I would check ck levels as this will tell you if there is any muscle damage
I would also ask for kidney function test, crea, urea
It may be as minor as a bladder/kidney infection or major like kidney stones
I would collect a urine send it off for a ua and a culture |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2015-02-15 9:42 AM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-15 1:01 AM Geesh he was even worse today. Please say your not trying to ride him still. If he is get In he is getting worse by doing nothing a few things to check EPM as from what I have read on here, this could be a great possibility PSSM, he could be tying up Cushings, again tying up from insulin sensitivity I would get blood work done, I would check ck levels as this will tell you if there is any muscle damage I would also ask for kidney function test, crea, urea It may be as minor as a bladder/kidney infection or major like kidney stones I would collect a urine send it off for a ua and a culture
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | They can get sore over that area if they are sore in either their hocks or stifles. Hind gut acidosis can also cause them to be sore over their loins and drop out from under your hand. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-02-16 9:23 AM They can get sore over that area if they are sore in either their hocks or stifles. Hind gut acidosis can also cause them to be sore over their loins and drop out from under your hand. Hind Gut Acidosis...just looked that up THAT COULD BE IT! My barn only feeds hay 2x a day and it's gone within an hour or two. My horse is on a dry lot. I do give him more hay at night when I leave, but I know there are periods where he doesn't have food and I hate it. He was on a round bale 24/7 up until about a month/month and a half ago.
Definitely not discounting hocks or stifles, but I lunged him at the trot today, REALLY watching his hind legs. I do not see any stiffness or anything off back there at all (and I've dealt w/ my fair share of hind end lameness issues!) Maybe it's just really mild or he's really hiding it, but I don't see anything.
I am starting to think it might not be PSSM or tying up either, maybe it is, but it's been 4 days and he's still back sore. I palpated him all over and he didn't react anywhere else. He also hasn't been working much. Typically I turn him loose in the arena to roll/wander around for a few minutes and then lunge him.
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Sock Snob
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| Could be low level chronic epm. My horse was sore along same area. I countless dollars on injections thqt did not work, but carried horse to another vet he did a nero test and he failed vet suggested epm, did the pathogenes test and gave him the meds and he looks so much better. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | As a random obvious simple thing that my vet pointed out on a horse that we had come through... Have a fecal done to check for parasites. This horse had just had his hocks done and was still showing to be sore in his lower back area. We oiled him for bugs and put him on lactanayse for 5 days and he was good to go. |
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Location: MS | My colt has been sore in his lower back. Just found out it's actually a stifle issue .
My vet said that's pretty common. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | As quickly as it came, it disappeared (almost entirely). My vet won't be here until the 5th (sigh) and I don't trust the local vets AT ALL. I didn't see Cash over the weekend due to me working 12hr shifts, but when I went out yesterday, he was pain free except a small spot just behind his right shoulder. The only thing I changed is I have been putting extra hay in a slow feeder so he has something to munch on at least for a little while during the night (I ordered a big one that's on the way), he hasn't been getting turmeric or his liquid 747, and he has been back on his Silver Lining kidney suport for like a week. That's it. I'm still going to have my vet look at him when she comes, but I find it strange that it has come and gone twice now with no apparent reason. |
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Elite Veteran
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| His back could be out as well. Maybe he slipped while running and playing. I would have a good chiropractor work him over and see if he needed an adjustment. I also agree that his hocks and stifles could be bothering him as well. I always like to start with the least invasive. |
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