|
|
 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
  
Location: North Dakota | Ok I'm not sure if any of you remember but my main man stepped on something last September that punctured up into his frog. Well he was three-legged lame for over a month and then about a 3 out of 5 on the lameness scale (5 dead lame, 1 slightly off) for another few months. Well I took him to a friend that does therapy in December in hopes she could get him back on the right track. Right before then we took another set of xrays and he looked great. There was still infection moving its way around his foot but bones looked great and no inflammation to speak of inside the hoof. Just a nasty infection right along the sole that just kept jumping around from one area to another. Well infection cleared up but he was still sore. Anyways, my friend had him and did massage on him, had the chiro out (I mean the poor guy was a mess from being so lame for so long), put him on the theraplate, did some red light therapy, and also put a Therapulse blanket on him (in hopes of helping his whole body that was so sore from being so lame). I had him there for over a month and when I picked him up I rode him around bareback and he felt better but definitely still off. Well his shoulder has completey atrophied so I'm not sure if that is it or if something in his foot is still bothering him. Ok so that is just a bit of background info. While he was there I had her farrier trim him up since he needed to be done bad and the shoes we had on to hold the medicine plate needed to come off. I ran it by my farrier first and he said he has seen her farrier's work so he said that would be fine. Well I pick my horse up and his foot looks very odd. I am guessing maybe from the heat and from not bearing much weight for so long? But I also think her farrier maybe was just too shy to pull that heel back further since it looks so odd now since she doesn't know me or my horse? Anyways I sent these pics to my farrier and am waiting a reply so in the mean time what do you all think is going on? His bulbs look about the size they should be now but you can see nearly an inch away from his bulb is his heel which looks contracted or much smaller than where it should be now. I guess when my farrier sees it in person he will know what to do but I guess I am just curious if anyone else has any input on what is going on?
 (Dieselfoot.jpg)
 (Dieselfoot2.jpg)
 (Dieselfoot3.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
 Dieselfoot.jpg (91KB - 182 downloads)
Dieselfoot2.jpg (25KB - 147 downloads)
Dieselfoot3.jpg (22KB - 147 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | A couple more...
 (Dieselfoot4.jpg)
 (Dieselfoot5.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
Dieselfoot4.jpg (25KB - 148 downloads)
Dieselfoot5.jpg (24KB - 146 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | Well first and only txt from farrier so far...."Boy that's not good!" :( Exactly what I was afraid of hearing. |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | Ok phew!!! I was right....heel just needs to come back. Just not properly trimmed. Nothing serious. Now to find out if that is the reason why he is still a bit sore. |
|
| |
|
  Northern Chocolate Queen
Posts: 16576
  
Location: ND | His heels look REALLY underrun! |
|
| |
|
Elite Veteran
Posts: 898
Location: Mountains of VA | I sure hope more people see your pics and post. I'm not sure I have ever seen a hoof with that type of shape, especially the bulbs. They seem to be large which is a concern, also the deep crevices.
It does sound like you are getting plenty of help for your guy. Hope he gets back on track soon.
|
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | Yes he grows very under himself so I always have him done at about 6 wks to keep on top of him well he got a little over due this winter and then I think being on the theraplate must have really increased the blood flow causing even more growth then add on the heat from the infection and I just think a lot happened all at once. My friend's farrier does not have a ton of experience so I think the different look to his foot due to his bulbs looking larger than his heel scared her from taking enough off and not know that she could take THAT much off him. I knew immediately he needed his heel brought back but I didn't know what to think of why his heel looks so small compared to his heel bulb but then I just started to think about all that has happened to that foot and I think he just has some funny growth that will need to grow out. My farrier will know more once he sees him in person but I have no doubt he will have a whole new foot once he gets ahold of him. |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | hotpaints - 2015-02-17 5:55 PM I sure hope more people see your pics and post. I'm not sure I have ever seen a hoof with that type of shape, especially the bulbs. They seem to be large which is a concern, also the deep crevices.
It does sound like you are getting plenty of help for your guy. Hope he gets back on track soon.
I know! It looks so funky right now! That is why I was concerned but the more I look at the pictures and think about it I just think he has a lot of growth so there is a ton of foot that needs to be taken off yet. I made a couple little conservative marks on some pics of where I feel he needs to be brought back to.
 (Dieselfootheelmark.jpg)
 (Dieselfootheelmark2.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
Dieselfootheelmark.jpg (26KB - 148 downloads)
Dieselfootheelmark2.jpg (23KB - 145 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
 Loves to compete
Posts: 5760
Location: Oakdale, CA | Just curious what the other hoof looks like? |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | got boost? - 2015-02-17 6:17 PM Just curious what the other hoof looks like? Normal....lol. Sorry I didn't take a picture of it. When I was uploading these I was just thinking that I should have. My camera died while I was taking them so I'm lucky I got what I did. The heel needs to come back a tiny bit on the other foot as well but nowhere NEAR this much! The farrier just doesn't seem to take quite enough off. At least not like what this horse needs. This foot just looks extra strange due to the bulge. But I think he almost had a clubby look due to not bearing weight on it for so long and now it is starting to expand again. Does that make sense? I am just thinking what could cause this and that is all I can really think of. I wish it wasn't going to be so icky out tomorrow so I could haul to the farrier ASAP but I am going to have to wait until Thursday or this weekend.
Edited by Just Bring It 2015-02-17 6:23 PM
|
|
| |
|
 Sock eating dog owner
Posts: 4553
Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | That deep crevice in the frog needs to be treated for thrush. Sometimes that will cause hoof pain. |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | cow pie - 2015-02-17 10:55 PM That deep crevice in the frog needs to be treated for thrush. Sometimes that will cause hoof pain.
Yep! Thanks! It does. I think from being wrapped, doctored, etc for so long he got thrush. Then I didn't have him at home for over a month so I didn't catch it until now. When I was cleaning it out to take the pic I could smell a little thrush. (didn't get very clean looking since it is a little layer of frozen ice that I couldn't get chipped off) |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 3815
Location: The best kept secret in TX | I remember him!
Sounds to me like he is getting all the help he needs. A little thrush treatment and a little TLC from your farrier and he should be good to go!!
Can't wait to see a riding update soon!   |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 2457
| Just Bring It - 2015-02-17 6:10 PM hotpaints - 2015-02-17 5:55 PM I sure hope more people see your pics and post. I'm not sure I have ever seen a hoof with that type of shape, especially the bulbs. They seem to be large which is a concern, also the deep crevices.
It does sound like you are getting plenty of help for your guy. Hope he gets back on track soon.
I know! It looks so funky right now! That is why I was concerned but the more I look at the pictures and think about it I just think he has a lot of growth so there is a ton of foot that needs to be taken off yet. I made a couple little conservative marks on some pics of where I feel he needs to be brought back to.
His heels in the top pic here remind me of a horse that was super constricted in her movement - long story short, she was in a cast after slicing between her heel bulbs up and almost cutting the inside bulb off. Nasty tin will do that- anywho, when casted, it was casted too tight and too low "to hold the stiches keeping her foot together" but in reality they constricted so much blood flow that the new growth of hoof is coming in an inch wider than the old hoof .... the farrier comes every 2 weeks, rasps some off and they are allowing the old hoof to just grow out and slough off ...
Anyway, didn't you mention that he had a type of treatment pad of some kind on to get to the infection? Sometimes, when attaching those, you can constrict blood flow to the heels causing that indentation that you see ...
I think you're on the right track pulling his heels back ... hopefully your farrier will be able to balance him back up and help him! Good luck and keep us updated! This is an interesting and fascinating story ... |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | lindseylou2290 - 2015-02-18 10:05 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-17 6:10 PM hotpaints - 2015-02-17 5:55 PM I sure hope more people see your pics and post. I'm not sure I have ever seen a hoof with that type of shape, especially the bulbs. They seem to be large which is a concern, also the deep crevices.
It does sound like you are getting plenty of help for your guy. Hope he gets back on track soon.
I know! It looks so funky right now! That is why I was concerned but the more I look at the pictures and think about it I just think he has a lot of growth so there is a ton of foot that needs to be taken off yet. I made a couple little conservative marks on some pics of where I feel he needs to be brought back to.
Anyway, didn't you mention that he had a type of treatment pad of some kind on to get to the infection? Sometimes, when attaching those, you can constrict blood flow to the heels causing that indentation that you see ...
I think you're on the right track pulling his heels back ... hopefully your farrier will be able to balance him back up and help him! Good luck and keep us updated! This is an interesting and fascinating story ...
Exactly what it looks like! Like something was constricting. Yes, there was a metal plate screwed to the bottom of his shoe to help with medicating it and keeping it clean. We had to cut away so much sole to get to the infection that just didn't want to quit. I have no doubt my farrier will get that foot back on track. He is a great lameness specialist farrier so I trust him. Thanks so much for your experience! I think you are absolutely right. |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | IRunOnFaith - 2015-02-18 9:23 AM I remember him!
Sounds to me like he is getting all the help he needs. A little thrush treatment and a little TLC from your farrier and he should be good to go!!
Can't wait to see a riding update soon!
Thanks so much! I have been watching our last run of the year over and over again. I cannot wait to be back on this guy. I am usually a mare girl but I have had this guy since he was just a tiny little tyke and he has grown into such a big beautiful boy that has ahold of my heart. He was not a natural on the pattern by any means but I refused to give up on him. He now surprises me with every single run. |
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | Ok so I have an update!
Here is one more pic I took before he got trimmed up by my farrier yesterday.
 (Diesel foot before trim.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
Diesel foot before trim.jpg (35KB - 159 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | Now here are a few AFTER his trim. The farrier said pretty much what I was thinking....it looks funny due to new growth after the trauma that is coming in which is now about half way down the foot luckily so we are halfway there! The heel looks pinched and the bulbs larger because how little weight he was placing on that foot for so long and now he is putting weight back on it. After his trim he started stepping out so much better right away! My farrier said in about 3 to 5 days I should really be able to see how he is feeling.
Edited by Just Bring It 2015-02-22 9:39 AM
 (Diesel foot after trim.jpg)
 (diesel foot after trim2.jpg)
 (Diesels foot after trim3.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
Diesel foot after trim.jpg (33KB - 145 downloads)
diesel foot after trim2.jpg (37KB - 134 downloads)
Diesels foot after trim3.jpg (31KB - 143 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
They Don't Know Me
Posts: 3299
Location: Bastrop, TX | Looks alot better. Just some FYI. Next time you have injury to the frog or heels the best thing to kill any infection quick is to soak the foot in epson salt then dry it. Then mix in a bowl sugar and iodine til you have a paste. Pack it on the injury good thick layer and wrap the foot. You can change every other day as long as bandage is holding up. Works great on any deep or open wounds.
Edited by bobbyjosocks 2015-02-22 8:54 AM
|
|
| |
|
Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | bobbyjosocks - 2015-02-22 8:51 AM Looks alot better. Just some FYI. Next time you have injury to the frog or heels the best thing to kill any infection quick is to soak the foot in epson salt then dry it. Then mix in a bowl sugar and iodine til you have a paste. Pack it on the injury good thick layer and wrap the foot. You can change every other day as long as bandage is holding up. Works great on any deep or open wounds.
Exactly what I did. Trust me I babied this foot like you wouldn't believe. I did everything possible for it. It just did not want to quit. I am pretty sure what he stepped on was a weed stub and he got part of it lodged in there that was festuring. We were finally able to get a tiny little something out back in October and I believe that is when it finally started to heal. (injury happened in September) |
|
| |
Folks on-line