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RunninOnARooster
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 12:00 PM
Subject: Difference between PHT, traditional magnetic therapy and BOT



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I'm trying to research these products to see which one would work best for me and my horses. Can someone please briefly explain the differences and which one will work best for mild inflammation for an older horses.
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: Difference between PHT, traditional magnetic therapy and BOT


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This won't be brief   but I feel it is necessary as most do not understand it. I personally feel it is very important so I hope you take the time to read.
 
http://www.phtmagnetics.com/
Homeostasis in the horse is a complex set of interacting metabolic processes so internal conditions remain stable and relatively constant. Homeostasis includes the regulation of temperature and the balance between acidity and alkalinity (pH). It is a process that maintains the stability of the horse's internal environment in response to changes in external conditions
Homeostatic processes act at t...he level of the cell, the tissue, and the organ, as well as for the horse as a whole.
Principal Homeostatic processes include the following:
1) Temperature Regulation
The horse's body tries to maintain a constant body temperature. An advantage of temperature regulation is that it allows the horse to function effectively in a broad range of environmental conditions. That thermal stability comes at a price, since an automatic regulation system requires additional energy. If the temperature rises, the horse loses heat by sweating, via the latent heat of evaporation. If it falls, this is counteracted by increased metabolic action, by shivering, and by thickening the hair coat.
2) Regulation of the pH of the blood at 7.365 (a measure of alkalinity and acidity).
3) Regulation of their blood glucose concentration
4) The kidneys are used to remove excess water and ions from the blood. These are then expelled as urine. The kidneys perform a vital role in homeostatic regulation in horse's, removing excess water, salt, and urea from the blood.
5) If the water content of the blood and lymph fluid falls, it is restored in the first instance by extracting water from the cells. The throat and mouth become dry, so that the symptoms of thirst motivate the horse to drink.
6) If the oxygen content of the blood falls, or the carbon-dioxide concentration increases, blood flow is increased by more vigorous heart action and the speed and depth of breathing increases.
7) Sleep timing depends upon a balance between homeostatic sleep propensity, the need for sleep as a function of the amount of time elapsed since the last adequate sleep episode, and circadian rhythms that determine the ideal timing of a correctly structured and restorative sleep episode.
If you are still reading this, Please know that All PHT Products are designed with these principals in mind. We provide products that will help your horse feel his best by providing a SAFE healing environment.
So when buying a product and using it on your horse, ask yourself is this product really helping my horse?


BOT reflects heat via fibers in fabric back into the body

I am unsure what you mean by traditional  PHT is traditional but it is unipolar 

Here is the difference between bipolar and unipolar
The negative (unipolar) calms neurons and encourages rest, relaxation, and sleep. When sufficiently high in gauss strength, it can even produce general anesthesia. And because it is neuron-calming, it has been successfully used in the control of neurosis, psychosis, seizures, addictive withdrawal, and movement disorders. A negative magnetic field consistently produces a predictable, long-term healing response, because only this field can ultimately relieve stress or injury. The body itself always responds with negative magnetic field energy to counter any stressor. The negative magnetic field counteracts stress by the following mechanisms: normalization of pH (acid-base balance), correction of cellular swelling or edema, and release of molecular oxygen.
In contrast, the positive pole has a stressful effect on the body. With a prolonged exposure, it interferes with metabolic functioning, produces acidity, reduces cellular oxygen, and encourages the spread of latent microorganisms. As a neurologist, Dr. William Philpott has seen that a positive magnetic field excites or stimulates neurons. The higher the gauss strength of the positive pole, the higher the level of stimulation. In fact, a sufficiently high positive magnetic field can even provoke seizures and precipitate psychosis in those so predisposed.
The negative magnetic field heals by alleviating these common disease factors. It alkalinizes tissues and releases oxygen from its bound state back to its molecular state. By returning tissues to a normal healthy state, a negative magnetic field governs energy recovery, relieves inflammation, swelling, and other symptoms, and accelerates healing.
There are two ways to relieve pain with magnet therapy:

A positive magnetic field causes stress, which raises the level of endorphins, the body’s own painkillers, and relieves pain.
A negative magnetic field is anti-stressful, replacing acid-hypoxia which causes pain, with alkaline-hyperoxia, which relieves pain.

However, the only way to treat disease is to relieve acid-hypoxia by alkalinizing and oxygenating the tissue which is done with through Negative Magnetic Field.

To read more on bipolar and unipolar
http://www.painxequine.com/unipolar_vs_biopolar.htm
 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 12:47 PM
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Also PHT now has MagnaCu and CuHorse therapies  to read more on Copper infused fabric therapy which also is a huge component of homeostasis  you can visit www.magnacu.com and www.cuhorse.com
 
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-24 12:56 PM
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I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 

I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.

I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
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Posted 2015-02-24 1:10 PM
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I have seen a huge difference in how my gelding has been handling the cold with his PHT in under his blanket or sheet and without it. I've taken it off several times as a test and he always rides better and more consistently after having it on. I'm sold. He got magnacu 3in1's for christmas
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:11 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 

I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.

I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  
As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.
We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 
Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one

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Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 1:11 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!

I think it depends on the horse when you are comparing BOT to PHT. I've got two who LOVE their BOT stuff but didn't really respond to PHT, but Clifford is a PHT addict. He licks his lips if you even carry the blanket towards him! Chance responds well to PHT bell boots but the blanket didn't produce any noticeable results for him. I can tell when his bell boots have been off for more than a day because he doesn't move as well as he does when they're on 24/7. My old man, Joker, LOVES Back on Track. He gets stiff & sore and takes a long time to work out of the stiffness, but if I put a BOT sheet & neck cover on him for even just a few minutes before his workout, he is at the front of the pack acting like a 3 year old. I haven't had the PHT sheet on him in a couple years because he didn't respond to it then, and now that I've found his love for BOT, I just use that on him.
Both PHT and BOT are great products and everyone has to find the best choice or combination for their individual horse.
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 1:20 PM
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 I am a PHT user and have also tried some BOT, have not tried any of the cheaper magnetic products.
For starters I know the magnets work because I've used them on myself. As an artist from time to time my arm starts to bother me to the point that it hurts to even hold a pencil. I'll wrap a 3-1 wrap around my hand & arm & go to bed. Within 5 minutes I can feel my pulse increasing into my arm mucsles & by morning there is no pain. I also use them on my mounted shooting horses. We have one who is very prone to stocking up when stalled even for one night & one who tends to point a front foot. Last Oct we went to CMSA Worlds in Amarillo (bit of a haul from central ND). I was religious about keeping magents on these 2 horses when they where in their stalls & in the trailer. The one that stocks up did not have any inflamation in his legs at any point. The one that tends to point stood perfectly square in his stall on concrete the entire week. My boys do not go in the trailer without their magnetic blankets on & live in them at shoots unless they are saddled.
I started using BOT hock wraps on my gelding last summer and while he did start using himself in his turns better I also switched saddles around the same time so it's hard for me to say which influcenced that change. I've seen nothing with the BOT blanket when used on myself or the horses. As I only compete in the summer that's mainly when I use my therapy products so I also have a hard time with the BOT and how it works off heat. When it's already 90 degrees I don't like that idea.
I've been using PHT products for dang near 10 years already & they're still number 1 for me (and no I'm not a dealer or sponsored by them)

 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:23 PM
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The biggest thing to remember is BOT & PHT products (PHT Magnetics, MagnaCu, CuHorse) are not in the same catagory or class or type of therapy.  They are completely different therapies. 
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:29 PM
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 I can only speak from personal experience. I've been using PHT products for I have no idea how long. 15, 18 years? I've used them on heaven knows how many horses. I know all my horses well enough to know when something works and when it doesn't. Horses don't understand Placebo's. With a horse, a product works or it doesn't work and you as a person have to be smart enough to know the signs. I've suspected Vegas has some stifle soreness and has for the last couple of years. We got some of the MagnaCu stifle wraps. She started laying down and sleeping more. She now rears and bucks when she's outside. She hasn't done that in 2 years. She is snapping 2nd barrel now where before she'd stall on the backside. She's running harder. We keep her healthy with help from PHT. I looked into BOT. I didn't like the heat retention. Any vet will tell you for new injuries to use cold for the first 48 hours then switch to heat. My own experience with heat on new injuries is that while it might feel really good at first, once the muscles cool back down you are much more sore that you were prior to using that heat. Needless to say, I didn't go with the BOT products simply because PHT have shown me results and I'm a firm believer that they are all I really need.
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:35 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!

 Also was the placebo effect with Pht   Ceramic. Rubber, neodymium, bipolar unipolar   Medical grade  craft grade  gauss strength  etc
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Posted 2015-02-24 1:43 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  

As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.

We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 

Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one

I'm just going by the top 15 interviews from the Barrel Racing Report.  6 of the 15 list BOT products, 1 lists magnets, 1 lists CE magnets.  

I love to read what the pros use and it definitely has some influence on where I choose to spend my money.  
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Posted 2015-02-24 1:45 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  

As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.

We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 

Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one
I'm just going by the top 15 interviews from the Barrel Racing Report.  6 of the 15 list BOT products, 1 lists magnets, 1 lists CE magnets.  



I love to read what the pros use and it definitely has some influence on where I choose to spend my money.  

 Fair enough  but be educated enough to know most of that is given and sponsor money
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Posted 2015-02-24 1:50 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  

As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.

We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 

Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one
I'm just going by the top 15 interviews from the Barrel Racing Report.  6 of the 15 list BOT products, 1 lists magnets, 1 lists CE magnets.  



I love to read what the pros use and it definitely has some influence on where I choose to spend my money.  
 Fair enough  but be educated enough to know most of that is given and sponsor money

I am, I wrote that in my original post. 
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Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 1:59 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  

As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.

We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 

Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one
I'm just going by the top 15 interviews from the Barrel Racing Report.  6 of the 15 list BOT products, 1 lists magnets, 1 lists CE magnets.  



I love to read what the pros use and it definitely has some influence on where I choose to spend my money.  
 Fair enough  but be educated enough to know most of that is given and sponsor money
I am, I wrote that in my original post. 

And I'm the opposite. What the pros use & who is sponsered by a certain product or supplement holds to bearing in my decisions on what products I use. I feel that much of what the pros use is given to them by their sponsors and because of sponsorship obligations they probably are not even allowed to say what other alternative therapies they use as they have to promote their sponsors. 
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Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 2:46 PM
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I know I am a new PHT rep but I was a long time client before hand of both products actually. yes certain brands are cheaper but you do get what you pay for. I've been crunching something instead of being able to not have to deal with it for anymore for 5 years.
An old DDFT injury that's been dealt with extensively by vets etc. always puffed up for whatever reason, this doesn't happen anymore with MagnaCu.

Amazing. I don't believe in defending things that I've truly seen first hand results in
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 3:10 PM
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 I have both and like both. However, when I have a horse that is sore my go to is PHT hands down. If my horse has a nagging issue I will use the BOT. Do they both work? I thinks so but they are totally different therapies and they just don't compare.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 3:37 PM
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linds - 2015-02-24 12:56 PM I've been wanting to try PHT for some time, but they are an investment!  A couple reasons I have not pulled the trigger would be a recent study showing no difference between magnet therapy and placebos.  Also, I notice many pro's list BOT as alternative therapies, but not so many PHT.  Granted, they are sponsored, so take that with a grain of salt.  But, like Sherry Cervi uses BOT and I'm sure it's not just because she's getting free product. 



I do have some BOT products and love them.  Example, if your horse gets ANY swelling in their legs, the quick wraps WILL take it out.  The only thing I don't like about them is that it is hard to use them in the summer months due to the heat they draw.



I know there are some people on here that swear by PHT!
Just because one study claims that there is not an effect doesn't mean all studies show this  IN fact The New England Journal of Medicine has one that shows great improvement for people with hip problems.  Also our magnetic details link is full of research links and information.  

As far as endorsement and sponsorships... We at PHT have chosen to keep prices down for all of our customers and not give our product away to all the bigger names as well as lots of shows to keep the product out there.

We are also made in USA by horsewomen that understand the importance of quality and durablity. 

Just an FYI PHT does have lots of Big names that use our products  Infact I do have Sherry Cervi's signature and picture where she uses our products  along with several other "big" names
   Shelly Anzick  Adeline Navela  Amy Schimke  Hope Delaware List goes on and one
I'm just going by the top 15 interviews from the Barrel Racing Report.  6 of the 15 list BOT products, 1 lists magnets, 1 lists CE magnets.  



I love to read what the pros use and it definitely has some influence on where I choose to spend my money.  
 Fair enough  but be educated enough to know most of that is given and sponsor money
I am, I wrote that in my original post. 
And I'm the opposite. What the pros use & who is sponsered by a certain product or supplement holds to bearing in my decisions on what products I use. I feel that much of what the pros use is given to them by their sponsors and because of sponsorship obligations they probably are not even allowed to say what other alternative therapies they use as they have to promote their sponsors. 

I'm with SaraJean on her thoughts about the products that the Pros sponsors give to them to promote.
All I can say is that I love my PHT blanket 
 
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Posted 2015-02-24 4:27 PM
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 Not to mention the BOT is almost 1/2 of what PHT. That in itself will make it more appealing to people. When I am asked, I always say save your money and get a PHT, even if it is used.
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RunninOnARooster
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-02-24 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: Difference between PHT, traditional magnetic therapy and BOT



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Thanks for the feedback
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