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Location: Where I am happiest | " Taking it one step further, Lowrey explains if you are acting in interstate commerce and you have a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more you need a USDOT number.
“A standard Ford F-250 has a curb weight of 6351 lbs. A Featherlite four-horse standard trailer weight is listed at over 5,000 pounds which without saddles, tack, equipment, feed, hay and horses the unladen weight of the combination of vehicles is already in excess of 10,001 pounds,” Lowrey says. “A two-horse Featherlite trailer is listed at 4,000 pounds therefore even pulling an empty two-horse would put you over the 10,001 mark attached to a vehicle similar to an F-250.”
"“If you are a horse trainer and you charge mileage you are ‘for hire.’ If you are an amateur and you can win money like incentive fund or futurity money or if prizes can make your horse worth more money than you are engaged in commerce,”
http://instrideedition.com/2014/09/are-you-legal-transporting-horses-across-state-lines/
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Important phrases to know: "going on a trail ride" and "going to the vet". |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Three 4 Luck - 2015-03-03 8:16 AM Important phrases to know: "going on a trail ride" and "going to the vet".
Just showed this to my husband. He said the same thing. |
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| Our govt is out of control! |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-03-04 6:16 AM
Important phrases to know: "going on a trail ride" and "going to the vet".
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Location: Roping pen | But, the loop hole here in NE, is that if your trailer is titled as an RV, the DOT can go suck an egg.
IF you have farm plates with a livestock trailer (not an RV), within state, and less than 150 miles from home, they can suck the same egg no matter what you can weigh.
IF none of the above, than you have to get caught!!!
I did ask a South Dakota DOT officer about NE truck and trailers in SD and he exact words where---"he has bigger things to do than to pick on ranchers". As far as he knew, west river, they have never picked anyone up for this. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | ".....acting in interstate commerce ......"
What if you don't go out of state? |
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| It's getting ridiculous!!!! The IRS wants to tell me it's a hobby, but the DOT tells me I'm in it for the money. REALLY!!!!! |
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| barrelrider - 2015-03-03 11:56 AM
It's getting ridiculous!!!! The IRS wants to tell me it's a hobby, but the DOT tells me I'm in it for the money. REALLY!!!!!
THIS - exactly! |
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Location: That part of Texas | komet. - 2015-03-03 11:36 AM ".....acting in interstate commerce ......" What if you don't go out of state?
It's state by state but I believe the law is 26,001 to be over if you just drive in-state. I know that is the law in Texas. |
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Location: Midwest | Red Raider - 2015-03-03 12:03 PM komet. - 2015-03-03 11:36 AM ".....acting in interstate commerce ......" What if you don't go out of state? It's state by state but I believe the law is 26,001 to be over if you just drive in-state. I know that is the law in Texas.
You also may still need a coggins and health certificate. Depends on the state. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I was trying to get my new tax tags for my trailer today, and was told I had to get it inspected before I could get my tags. Apparently this was the law in Texas already but was not enforced, now they have decided to enforce it. Every day some new rules and regulations.  |
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Location: That part of Texas | GoMistyGo - 2015-03-03 12:24 PM I was trying to get my new tax tags for my trailer today, and was told I had to get it inspected before I could get my tags. Apparently this was the law in Texas already but was not enforced, now they have decided to enforce it. Every day some new rules and regulations.
I wonder if that's part of the new Texas Two-Step thing where they are getting our inspections and registration under one sticker. Thanks for the heads up -- I'll have to get mine done in 2 months. |
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| applies to commercial use!! If you pay the taxes on your earnings and it's going into your personal account, it's not commercial. It has to be in persuance of a business for tax purposes to be considered commerical.
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Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-03-03 9:16 AM Important phrases to know: "going on a trail ride" and "going to the vet".
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Location: Oklahoma | powerstroke power - 2015-03-03 12:54 PM
applies to commercial use!! If you pay the taxes on your earnings and it's going into your personal account, it's not commercial. It has to be in persuance of a business for tax purposes to be considered commerical.
If you have sponsors and have their logos on your trailer, you're considered commercial. I know Mesa Leavitt got slapped with a big fine because of that one. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Trail riding....what the heck is barrel racing?????
We got hit with fines years and years ago.
If I am being told correctly though, it is 26,001 pounds and its FEDERAL, not just state to state. However, states can choose whether or not to enforce it by pulling people over to check. Dont qoute me on that though because every person I ask says something different. Maybe its the CDL that is federal and not the DOT number.
I know here in Missouri, I have to have a CDL, but not a DOT number. However, technically I cannot use my truck and trailer to take the driving test for a CDL because you have to have a CDL to even drive it legally, so I would be breaking the law to get to the test. So to get around that, farm tags. As long as I stay in MO and have farm tags, then I do not have to have a CDL. However, when I cross states lines, I do.
Now Ive been hauling the same rig a number of years without a CDL. Its not that hard nor expensive to get one here so I am just going to do it. |
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Location: Texas | GoMistyGo - 2015-03-03 12:24 PM
I was trying to get my new tax tags for my trailer today, and was told I had to get it inspected before I could get my tags. Apparently this was the law in Texas already but was not enforced, now they have decided to enforce it. Every day some new rules and regulations.
How do you get your trailer inspected? like a truck? |
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Texas Taco
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Location: Bandera, TX | batkitty - 2015-03-03 2:00 PM GoMistyGo - 2015-03-03 12:24 PM I was trying to get my new tax tags for my trailer today, and was told I had to get it inspected before I could get my tags. Apparently this was the law in Texas already but was not enforced, now they have decided to enforce it. Every day some new rules and regulations. How do you get your trailer inspected? like a truck?
Yes, I just got it all done. Took it to my regular truck inspection place and they did it there. They only made sure the lights worked, it took about 10 seconds and cost $7. They give you a receipt which you then take to the tax office to get your tags..... |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Oh lord...I'm glad I left Texas before they instituted those trailer inspections!! They sound like as much of a formality and a joke as the vehicle inspections. The guy I went to used to basically check to see if the wipers worked...the lights...honked the horn and I was outta there with my sticker.
Here in Arkansas they did away with even having the vehicles inspected....AND I have Permanent tags on the trailer. I don't have to even renew tags/registration on it!  |
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