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| Thoughts on someone that ups the stud fee in the middle of breeding season because his colts started doing good. Totally understand the fees going up the following year but in the middle of breeding season - I wouldn't think that's good business. Jmo |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I have no problem with it. If the stallion starts really producing, making a name for himself, it's the stallion owners right to get what they can for a breeding, especially when the resulting foal will be more valuable. I can tell you that it isn't cheap to keep a stud up, adverstise, haul, collect, pay in to incentives, etc.... |
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Location: the high desert | I know I will get flamed for this but I don't care. I hate when people up stud fees because they have a foal or two that suddenly did something. Or they up it because it's another year... so I should pay another $250 because it's 2015?? I would walk away from that stud. If I ever had a stud (I never will though) his stud fee would never change, even if his foals started to make noise. I know a stud who's fee went up $500 because he moved to the same place a "famous" stud stands at....really?? So again I'm going to pay and extra $500 because he happens to be in the same place so and so is at. But at the end of the day, they own the stud so they can do whatever the hec they want to do and we are just at there mercy.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Iwish - 2015-03-04 7:15 AM I know I will get flamed for this but I don't care. I hate when people up stud fees because they have a foal or two that suddenly did something. Or they up it because it's another year... so I should pay another $250 because it's 2015?? I would walk away from that stud. If I ever had a stud (I never will though) his stud fee would never change, even if his foals started to make noise. I know a stud who's fee went up $500 because he moved to the same place a "famous" stud stands at....really?? So again I'm going to pay and extra $500 because he happens to be in the same place so and so is at.
What if you are losing money standing him at a certain price? It's nice to want to make deals for people and, believe me, I do. I donate to causes that I believe in, I cut my prices drastically and I don't make money. In fact, I'd say that I am in the hole because of the things I do for others. Do I deserve to increase my stud fee from $600 to $750 next year? Or should I worry about you and your needs? |
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Location: Kentucky | LRQHS - 2015-03-04 8:09 AM I have no problem with it. If the stallion starts really producing, making a name for himself, it's the stallion owners right to get what they can for a breeding, especially when the resulting foal will be more valuable. I can tell you that it isn't cheap to keep a stud up, adverstise, haul, collect, pay in to incentives, etc....
I agree. As a mare owner, upping stud fees helps with re-sale value on colts too. |
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Location: the high desert | Nope, up your stud fee all you want. I will just go elsewhere. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | You know...It's supply and demand just like many other things. |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | Iwish - 2015-03-04 8:50 AM Nope, up your stud fee all you want. I will just go elsewhere.
You do realize that prices on feed, hay, equipment, help, vets, etc goes up every year, right?
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| I think owners should charge what ever they want. The good thing is, there are a lot of studs to choose from. That being said, raising the fee in the middle of the season isn't too common I guess. But, if I had been standing a stallion for a few years for a pretty reasonable fee and he or his get started coming on, I might raise it. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Iwish - 2015-03-04 7:50 AM Nope, up your stud fee all you want. I will just go elsewhere.
You do realize that a person standing a stallion may not want you as an owner of one of their offspring too, right? I kind of like that a raised price might weed you out. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Murphy - 2015-03-04 7:54 AM Iwish - 2015-03-04 8:50 AM Nope, up your stud fee all you want. I will just go elsewhere. You do realize that prices on feed, hay, equipment, help, vets, etc goes up every year, right?
It does get more and more expensive to truly stand a stallion. We are doing everything in our power to stay afloat. |
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Location: Kansas | Murphy - 2015-03-04 7:21 AM LRQHS - 2015-03-04 8:09 AM I have no problem with it. If the stallion starts really producing, making a name for himself, it's the stallion owners right to get what they can for a breeding, especially when the resulting foal will be more valuable. I can tell you that it isn't cheap to keep a stud up, adverstise, haul, collect, pay in to incentives, etc.... I agree. As a mare owner, upping stud fees helps with re-sale value on colts too.
agreed....look at the ASOF, chasin firewater...etc....I don't believe I've seen any unstarted young ones under $10,000. And people are buying them because they are proven producers |
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Location: the high desert | Ah ok I see. So because I won't pay a certain price for something that means I'm a use-less POS of a horse person and I don't deserve to have something. Got it. |
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Location: Kansas | Iwish - 2015-03-04 8:08 AM Ah ok I see. So because I won't pay a certain price for something that means I'm a use-less POS of a horse person and I don't deserve to have something. Got it.
I don't think jennifer ment that at all |
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| Some owners will want to approve your mare too. Their right to do whatever with their stallion that they want. There's a lot of good studs out there to choose from. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Ummm, nobody said that...... |
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Location: Midwest | It's a business, not a charity. Standing a stallion is expensive.
my question is why do you feel someone can't raise their prices to reflect demand? Why do you feel entitled to get something for the price YOU want to pay? That's not how capitalism works. |
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Location: the high desert | Well that's what it meant to me. Like booney said, it's their stud, they can do whatever they want to. The OP asked a question, I answered with MY opinion and because my opinion was different I'm going to be taught a lesson. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | No one is trying to teach you a lesson. Where are you coming up with this?
The truth is that it is expensive. Very expensive. And, if you can't afford the stud fee, you shouldn't be breeding, because that is the cheapest part of it all. |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | Iwish - 2015-03-04 9:23 AM Well that's what it meant to me. Like booney said, it's their stud, they can do whatever they want to. The OP asked a question, I answered with MY opinion and because my opinion was different I'm going to be taught a lesson.
You can have an opinion, but facts are facts.
Just like your job. You get a cost of living increase every year because things go up. I don't see any difference with stallions. It's a service, and those goes up too.
I kick myself in the butt every year when I wait to book a stallion and his fees increase. I don't get mad about it, I just try to remember to book sooner :) |
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