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| So here I am about to breed my stallion, and wishing I had a nice mare to cross him with of my own... Then a friend contacts me and gives me two of hers!!! The mare I will be breeding this season is a 7 yr old TB with names like Storm Cat, Secretariat , Northern Dancer Native Dancer, Seattle Slew...
My stallion has impressive, two eyed jack, doc bar, doc prescription, peepy san, etc he's the offspring of crop outs so the babies will be registered APHA. He is a solid sorrel that is starting to roan out.
Here are their names you can find on all breed pedigree... Sonnys Par Tee Bar , and Jojobuttonsandbows....
Questions:
What do you think of this cross?Good barrel racing cross?
Any advice for first timers?
Those that do public breeding do you do contracts?
Thanks as always...
P.S. If you have a problem with this post please PM me.
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Location: Washington | Your other thread posted his breeding you broke the rule of free advertising, and this one is boarderline IMHO, but I am not a moderator here.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 12:33 PM So here I am about to breed my stallion, and wishing I had a nice mare to cross him with of my own... Then a friend contacts me and gives me two of hers!!! The mare I will be breeding this season is a 7 yr old TB with names like Storm Cat, Secretariat , Northern Dancer Native Dancer, Seattle Slew... My stallion has impressive, two eyed jack, doc bar, doc prescription, peepy san, etc he's the offspring of crop outs so the babies will be registered APHA. He is a solid sorrel that is starting to roan out. Here are their names you can find on all breed pedigree... Sonnys Par Tee Bar , and Jojobuttonsandbows.... Questions: What do you think of this cross?Good barrel racing cross? Any advice for first timers? Those that do public breeding do you do contracts? Thanks as always... P.S. If you have a problem with this post please PM me.
My personal opinion is that I wouldn't breed him to TB's. I think he looks very nice and would try to find a nice QH mare or two. And, if you do public breeding, yes, definitely always make a contract (it protects both of you). Good luck and have fun :) | |
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Location: Washington | I will assume you have tested your stallion for HYPP. If not you might want to start there. | |
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| First, I didn't when I ask advice, and share the excitement of a new mare... Especially when mares can ? In addition the moderators said I broke no rules, nowhere am I advertising... All I asked getting ideas on crosses, and opinions from other who have been in the business. He has been tested, and has been bred to personal use. Guess we know who flagged... If I was advertising I would have a number and price, all I have said is his name and her name, and advice. That is not breaking any rules. Of course we are all entitled to our own opinions.... be like a duck and let it roll off your back... | |
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| LRQHS - 2015-03-06 1:46 PM
FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 12:33 PM So here I am about to breed my stallion, and wishing I had a nice mare to cross him with of my own... Then a friend contacts me and gives me two of hers!!! The mare I will be breeding this season is a 7 yr old TB with names like Storm Cat, Secretariat , Northern Dancer Native Dancer, Seattle Slew... My stallion has impressive, two eyed jack, doc bar, doc prescription, peepy san, etc he's the offspring of crop outs so the babies will be registered APHA. He is a solid sorrel that is starting to roan out. Here are their names you can find on all breed pedigree... Sonnys Par Tee Bar , and Jojobuttonsandbows.... Questions: What do you think of this cross?Good barrel racing cross? Any advice for first timers? Those that do public breeding do you do contracts? Thanks as always... P.S. If you have a problem with this post please PM me.
 My personal opinion is that I wouldn't breed him to TB's. I think he looks very nice and would try to find a nice QH mare or two. And, if you do public breeding, yes, definitely always make a contract (it protects both of you). Good luck and have fun :)
What are types of things in a contract? These are new to me as we only bred our own. My reasoning for the TB is the speed, and height... He's l14.2....I would like to have more versatile prodigy along with the nice QH mares already bred to. Thank you for being nice. | |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 2:53 PM LRQHS - 2015-03-06 1:46 PM FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 12:33 PM So here I am about to breed my stallion, and wishing I had a nice mare to cross him with of my own... Then a friend contacts me and gives me two of hers!!! The mare I will be breeding this season is a 7 yr old TB with names like Storm Cat, Secretariat , Northern Dancer Native Dancer, Seattle Slew... My stallion has impressive, two eyed jack, doc bar, doc prescription, peepy san, etc he's the offspring of crop outs so the babies will be registered APHA. He is a solid sorrel that is starting to roan out. Here are their names you can find on all breed pedigree... Sonnys Par Tee Bar , and Jojobuttonsandbows.... Questions: What do you think of this cross?Good barrel racing cross? Any advice for first timers? Those that do public breeding do you do contracts? Thanks as always... P.S. If you have a problem with this post please PM me. My personal opinion is that I wouldn't breed him to TB's. I think he looks very nice and would try to find a nice QH mare or two. And, if you do public breeding, yes, definitely always make a contract (it protects both of you). Good luck and have fun :) What are types of things in a contract? These are new to me as we only bred our own. My reasoning for the TB is the speed, and height... He's l14.2....I would like to have more versatile prodigy along with the nice QH mares already bred to. Thank you for being nice.
Send me your email address and I'll send you my contract to look at. I think that you would get a better, more marketable foal if you breed to QH's. Many barrel racers shy from paints and TB's. Not that there is anything wrong or it won't work, but the majority prefer the QH lines. If I had your guy, I would be looking for proven QH mares. | |
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Location: Washington | FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 12:50 PM First, I didn't when I ask advice, and share the excitement of a new mare... Especially when mares can ? In addition the moderators said I broke no rules, nowhere am I advertising... All I asked getting ideas on crosses, and opinions from other who have been in the business. He has been tested, and has been bred to personal use. Guess we know who flagged... If I was advertising I would have a number and price, all I have said is his name and her name, and advice. That is not breaking any rules. Of course we are all entitled to our own opinions.... be like a duck and let it roll off your back...
Your new here we assume that most do not read the rules. I alerted the mods because this site is free only because of the paid advertiser who keep this up and running for all to enjoy. Many of us who have been here since this place started have been asked to help on many occasions and to report if in doubt.....this thread is here enjoy your topic. 
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| Yeah I hate having the stero type of Paint, especially with cropouts... This will proll be my only TB, the rest of the mares are QH. Just a slooow process starting up your own herd now that I am not living on the family land with the old mares.. lol | |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I'm going to say no. Your two individuals are polar opposites. Breeding is a crap shoot as it is, without crossing two individuals that are completely different. Also, as a breeder and buyer, I don't see any resale value in this cross. For one I'm not interested in a BS paint, dont get me wrong, there are some GREAT BS paints out there and a few I wouldn't mind having BUT they have to have the pedigree and the performance record to back them up. So you'll have an APHA registered BS paint baby with Impressive on top and Storm Cat on bottom. Personally, I wouldn't give a second look.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 3:18 PM Yeah I hate having the stero type of Paint, especially with cropouts... This will proll be my only TB, the rest of the mares are QH. Just a slooow process starting up your own herd now that I am not living on the family land with the old mares.. lol
I think the most valuable thing anyone ever told me was to keep it small. Stress quality over quantity. The longer I do this, the more I understand that advise. Even just 5 mares, at one point you can have the stud, those 5 mares bred, their 5 weanlings and their 5 yearlings. That's when you look around and think, man, this is work and insanity. Find one or two, maybe three of the best mares you can afford to start with and continually, try to find a better mare to replace the worst one on your place. | |
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| I guess I don't see where you are coming from... I'm breeding to add speed in the herd, and the mare has some nice babies in barrel futurities now, and the stud is doing exceptional for only 5 shows under his belt. Guess I like my impressive/storm cat lol | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 3:23 PM
FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 3:18 PM Yeah I hate having the stero type of Paint, especially with cropouts... This will proll be my only TB, the rest of the mares are QH. Just a slooow process starting up your own herd now that I am not living on the family land with the old mares.. lol
I think the most valuable thing anyone ever told me was to keep it small. Stress quality over quantity. The longer I do this, the more I understand that advise. Even just 5 mares, at one point you can have the stud, those 5 mares bred, their 5 weanlings and their 5 yearlings. That's when you look around and think, man, this is work and insanity. Find one or two, maybe three of the best mares you can afford to start with and continually, try to find a better mare to replace the worst one on your place. Â
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| LRQHS - 2015-03-06 3:23 PM
FlyinDoveHorses - 2015-03-06 3:18 PM Yeah I hate having the stero type of Paint, especially with cropouts... This will proll be my only TB, the rest of the mares are QH. Just a slooow process starting up your own herd now that I am not living on the family land with the old mares.. lol
I think the most valuable thing anyone ever told me was to keep it small. Stress quality over quantity. The longer I do this, the more I understand that advise. Even just 5 mares, at one point you can have the stud, those 5 mares bred, their 5 weanlings and their 5 yearlings. That's when you look around and think, man, this is work and insanity. Find one or two, maybe three of the best mares you can afford to start with and continually, try to find a better mare to replace the worst one on your place. Â
Couldn't agree with this more!!! Yay LRQH!
There was an article a few years ago where they asked breeders about their operations and they said the same thing. Basically, 1 $7500 broodmare is way better investment than 2 $3000 broodmares.
Keep in mind, it costs just as much to feed a dink as it does a nice horse.
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Location: So. Cali. | If you're planning on keeping the foals for yourself, go for it. If you looking to breed to sell and get your stallions name out there and in the right hands, I would not do it. | |
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