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| With the increase of money available at the futurities do you think there needs to be a greater emphasis on drug testing those horses? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Yes and yes! It's really tuff for those running a clean game to outrun the needle. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i think testing should be done for the nasty stuff but leave banamine and bute and lasix and dex and stuff along this line alone...........
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| mruggles - 2015-03-09 3:42 PM i think testing should be done for the nasty stuff but leave banamine and bute and lasix and dex and stuff along this line alone...........
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I guess that might be the hard thing...to draw the line. Anybody know where the line is on racehorses? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Define drugs. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Yes it needs to be done and not only on the futurity babies. It would change all major races. But legal drugs given properly under vet care are okay. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Whiteboy - 2015-03-09 3:46 PM
mruggles - 2015-03-09 3:42 PM i think testing should be done for the nasty stuff but leave banamine and bute and lasix and dex and stuff along this line alone...........
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I guess that might be the hard thing...to draw the line. Anybody know where the line is on racehorses?
Some of the stuff on race horses isn't so much what the drug is, but how much.
Just a math example here, you can only give 2 cc of lasix instead of 6 cc.
Other drugs, like frog juice, are banned entirely. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | LRQHS - 2015-03-09 3:49 PM Define drugs. "Drugs" are usually defined as anything that will alter a horses state of mind, performance enhancing or alter his way of going. There are 3 different "classes" of drugs. At the track, there is a threshold of bute or banamine allowed but they can not exceed that threshold. Lasix is the same and these horses are on the stewards list.
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Location: OH | LRQHS - 2015-03-09 4:49 PM Define drugs.
In the TB world it is anything that is performanve enhancing. You cannot even use Penicillan. |
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Location: OH | This has been brought up before---what do people think that these TOP trainers are using that would change things so much ?????? |
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Location: somewhere up north | Mighty Broke - 2015-03-09 3:57 PM This has been brought up before---what do people think that these TOP trainers are using that would change things so much ??????
My thoughts too... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Hugs not drugs! |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i had a horse that had to be on a steroid, it was for his partially paralyzed flapper...so i would have been banned..............lol
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | chasincansMN - 2015-03-10 3:03 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-03-09 3:57 PM This has been brought up before---what do people think that these TOP trainers are using that would change things so much ?????? My thoughts too...
there are a few things out there................just do some digging and reading, its eye opening
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | If these organizations really want to test for drugs they will spend $500 per test on each of the top horses. $250 for level 3 testing and $150 for steroid and an extra $100 for exotic drugs. It is all about money. If they want to spend the money it will clean up barrel racing! |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | mruggles - 2015-03-09 4:11 PM i had a horse that had to be on a steroid, it was for his partially paralyzed flapper...so i would have been banned..............lol
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | mruggles - 2015-03-09 4:12 PM
chasincansMN - 2015-03-10 3:03 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-03-09 3:57 PM This has been brought up before---what do people think that these TOP trainers are using that would change things so much ?????? My thoughts too...
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Exactly...there are tons and tons and tons of not nice things out there... |
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Mighty Broke - 2015-03-09 3:57 PM This has been brought up before---what do people think that these TOP trainers are using that would change things so much ??????
My thoughts too...
I don't think the biggest issue is WHAT, but more so HOW MUCH is being used. Proper dosages of safe substances are just fine in my book when used as directed by a veterinarian. |
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| in some circles even something like paprika (which I use as a color enhancer for my sorrel) can be banned because it is also an anti-inflammatory. So I guess frog juice- yes, but supplements and bute to an extent- no. |
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