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    Location: Somewhere around here | Why is it that every team roper, specifically women ropers, seem to look down on barrel racers so hard? I just had lunch with some friends and an acquaintance sat by me. We all started talking and the conversation turned to horses, she mentioned that she was a team roper (and me being happy that there was another gal I could talk to about horses) and I told her I barrel raced. She got this snotty look on her face, looked me up and down, and said "You actually call that riding?" Needless to say I was a little taken aback! I know team ropers and barrel racers aren't best friends but this isn't the first time I've been looked down on from a women team roper. Shouldn't we be bringing each other up as women instead of tearing each other down?? |
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| cecollins0811 - 2015-03-24 12:51 PM Why is it that every team roper, specifically women ropers, seem to look down on barrel racers so hard? I just had lunch with some friends and an acquaintance sat by me. We all started talking and the conversation turned to horses, she mentioned that she was a team roper (and me being happy that there was another gal I could talk to about horses) and I told her I barrel raced. She got this snotty look on her face, looked me up and down, and said "You actually call that riding?" Needless to say I was a little taken aback! I know team ropers and barrel racers aren't best friends but this isn't the first time I've been looked down on from a women team roper. Shouldn't we be bringing each other up as women instead of tearing each other down??
Women are each other's worst enemies. We tear each other up over everything including motherhood, careers, clothes, weight, men and anything else we can drum up. It's ridiculous. |
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| WOW! Every woman should be respectful of others' riding discipline no matter what it is. I'm very thankful I have the barrel racer background that I do to be able to sit a horse correctly in my now team roper life. Sounds like your acquaintance needs to learn some respect for others and manners. |
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   Location: Sperry, OK | cecollins0811 - 2015-03-23 2:51 PM Why is it that every team roper, specifically women ropers, seem to look down on barrel racers so hard? I just had lunch with some friends and an acquaintance sat by me. We all started talking and the conversation turned to horses, she mentioned that she was a team roper (and me being happy that there was another gal I could talk to about horses) and I told her I barrel raced. She got this snotty look on her face, looked me up and down, and said "You actually call that riding?" Needless to say I was a little taken aback! I know team ropers and barrel racers aren't best friends but this isn't the first time I've been looked down on from a women team roper. Shouldn't we be bringing each other up as women instead of tearing each other down??
Ask her is she can lope her horse in a circle on the correct lead? Or maybe if she knows what bend/flex is? |
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           Location: Kansas | I was forced to go to a roping saturday...there was a few lady ropers there, they were very nice to me! Even sat down and talked with me until they were coming up in the round. I said I barrel raced and didn't get the reaction you did lol. Must have been the girl you were talking too. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I know alot of ropers and they never acted like this that your talking about. |
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       Location: Phoenix | Girl Ropers are usually pretty chill and I'm sure have barrel raced at some point in their lives. Sounds like a catty b!tch to me. I get what's she's saying...a lot of people can buy horses that can win and they just sit there. Roping requires more technical skill...as in, if they can't rope, the horse can't fake it for them. |
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-03-23 2:56 PM
cecollins0811 - 2015-03-23 2:51 PM Why is it that every team roper, specifically women ropers, seem to look down on barrel racers so hard? I just had lunch with some friends and an acquaintance sat by me. We all started talking and the conversation turned to horses, she mentioned that she was a team roper (and me being happy that there was another gal I could talk to about horses) and I told her I barrel raced. She got this snotty look on her face, looked me up and down, and said "You actually call that riding?" Needless to say I was a little taken aback! I know team ropers and barrel racers aren't best friends but this isn't the first time I've been looked down on from a women team roper. Shouldn't we be bringing each other up as women instead of tearing each other down??
Ask her is she can lope her horse in a circle on the correct lead? Β Or maybe if she knows what bend/flex is?
She can lope to the left but probably not to the right... lol
But I am a roper and a barrel racer and I have never heard any woman around me say something like that. I would have a dumbfounded look on my face. There are challenges in riding in both events but I think that barrel racing takes much more riding effor that roping. Maybe i am blessed with a good rope horse, but I think that if you would swing a rope and catch then you can ride my mare. She is automatic. Doesnt take much riding skill on her to rope... just my opinion. |
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| TNcowgirl88 - 2015-03-23 3:07 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-03-23 2:56 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-03-23 2:51 PM Why is it that every team roper, specifically women ropers, seem to look down on barrel racers so hard? I just had lunch with some friends and an acquaintance sat by me. We all started talking and the conversation turned to horses, she mentioned that she was a team roper (and me being happy that there was another gal I could talk to about horses) and I told her I barrel raced. She got this snotty look on her face, looked me up and down, and said "You actually call that riding?" Needless to say I was a little taken aback! I know team ropers and barrel racers aren't best friends but this isn't the first time I've been looked down on from a women team roper. Shouldn't we be bringing each other up as women instead of tearing each other down?? Ask her is she can lope her horse in a circle on the correct lead? Or maybe if she knows what bend/flex is? She can lope to the left but probably not to the right... lol But I am a roper and a barrel racer and I have never heard any woman around me say something like that. I would have a dumbfounded look on my face. There are challenges in riding in both events but I think that barrel racing takes much more riding effor that roping. Maybe i am blessed with a good rope horse, but I think that if you would swing a rope and catch then you can ride my mare. She is automatic. Doesnt take much riding skill on her to rope... just my opinion.
That is funny and in a lot cases true!
I remember going and roping with some people and when I started warming my horse up to the right they wanted to know why. I explained that I wanted both sides of my horse balanced and they thought I was a loon. They actually told me I was wasting my time because the only lead a rope horse needs is the left one.
My husband used to pick on me about all the counter archs, side passing, nose tipping and general horsemanship I put my horses through when I ride them. Then last year he ran my good horse while I was recovering from surgery. He thought he "had it handled" becasue he had done some barrels in 4-H and he had seen me make a million runs. The first horse I put him on is a good campaigner that really don't have to do anything on and he thought is was as eary as pie breezing that mare through the pattern. Then I put him on my good mare and he sliced the second barrel. I told all the things he did wrong and all the things he didn't do to set her up. He now has a whole new appreciation for barrel racing and uses some of the horsemanship stuff on his rope horses. And guess what? His head horse is handling cattle better than she ever has! |
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| I'm more of a roper than barrel racer for sure but I have alot of girlfriends that run barrels. I sure respect their abilities! And I do know my leads and can actually lope to the right. Lol!! In fact taught my head horse his right lead shortly after I got him. |
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| She probably doesn't really rope/ride that much or that well. The only person I know who even remotely acts like this does so out of her own insecurities. I have friends on both sides and many who do both. |
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         Location: North Dakota | Ummmm...I get that roping is difficult. I'd suck at throwing a rope while on a moving animal, but I wouldn't exactly call ropers the best riders...I've seen lots of rope horses that are great at their job, but have tie downs, huge bits, ewe necks, no concept of flexion or softness, and only canter to the left. No thanks. Sounds like your buddy there is just catty and clueless. |
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| I do both and would never treat anyone like that..... maybe you just talked to the bad apple of the group! I can tell you that most girls that just rope don't get as wild with their bling and bright colors and you see more "Barbie doll" girls running barrels than you do roping, and I do here some of my friends that just rope make comments about that. |
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-23 4:04 PM
Β Ummmm...I get that roping is difficult. I'd suck at throwing a rope while on a moving animal, but I wouldn't exactly call ropers the best riders...I've seen lots of rope horses that are great at their job, but have tie downs, huge bits, ewe necks, no concept of flexion or softness, and only canter to the left. No thanks. Sounds like your buddy there is just catty and clueless.
I would say you might be a little clueless and catty yourself with that comment! |
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           Location: Kansas | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-23 4:04 PM Ummmm...I get that roping is difficult. I'd suck at throwing a rope while on a moving animal, but I wouldn't exactly call ropers the best riders...I've seen lots of rope horses that are great at their job, but have tie downs, huge bits, ewe necks, no concept of flexion or softness, and only canter to the left. No thanks. Sounds like your buddy there is just catty and clueless.
I'm going to have to politely disagree.....I used to date a team roper.....so I've gone to several "jackpot" ropings. Alot of those riders are once heck of a hand with a horse....it's not all about "big bits, tiedowns, & cantering to the left." Some of those horses were some of the most brokest things I've ever seen, light in the mouths, and were dang good at their jobs. Roping is not easy, I've tried it and looked like a complete idiot...you have to have alot of skill to be able to handle a horse running at full speed, rating a steer and following through with your throw. |
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| I can say that I am probably one of the only team ropers with a little bling on my tack and polo wraps in the back.
Most ropers and like....what is on your horses back legs? Its funny to me. but i will have to agree with a previous comment. Some rope horses are the brokest horses I have ever sat on. My good rope horse was one of them. you could rope on him in a halter and never touch him and he knew his job. Some of them are spectacular. |
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| I know just as many obnoxious team ropers as barrel racers. I also know really nice ones. I don't really care what other people think about barrel racers. |
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  Location: Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-23 4:20 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-23 4:04 PM Β Ummmm...I get that roping is difficult. I'd suck at throwing a rope while on a moving animal, but I wouldn't exactly call ropers the best riders...I've seen lots of rope horses that are great at their job, but have tie downs, huge bits, ewe necks, no concept of flexion or softness, and only canter to the left. No thanks. Sounds like your buddy there is just catty and clueless.
I am in both worlds and most of my horses do both, my husband ropes as well and we make all our horses, if they don't make it as a barrel horse then they make it as a rope horse, visa versa... or if neither works they are sold before a lot of time is wasted on them. Running barrels is an easier event for me in a sense because I am relying on MY ability and my horses , team roping you have 2 horses, a steer (with a mind of its own ) ,myself and my rope and the other person and their rope (so many factors ) In either event if you don't have the ability to ride and sit a horse well and you do not keep your horse in top physical condition you are not going to be competitive.
And as far as a tie down, just because a horse has a tie down doesn't mean it's not broke, I have seen lots of barrel horses that would actually perform better with a tie down, and I have seen lots of barrel horses that you couldn't ride on a loose rein if you wanted to. I have also seen lots of rope horses that only know how to run down the pen and turn left.
Bottom line...... just because you rope or your run barrels, or you cut or you ride pleasure or you play football or golf or whatever your passion is dosent make you any better than that person that has never swung a leg over a horse, or threw a ball,or won at a pro level or in the 5D we do it because it makes us happy, not for the right to act like we are better than someone else, I put my pants on one leg at a time just like any of them do and being on the back of a horse makes me HAPPY |
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         Location: North Dakota | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-23 4:20 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-23 4:04 PM Ummmm...I get that roping is difficult. I'd suck at throwing a rope while on a moving animal, but I wouldn't exactly call ropers the best riders...I've seen lots of rope horses that are great at their job, but have tie downs, huge bits, ewe necks, no concept of flexion or softness, and only canter to the left. No thanks. Sounds like your buddy there is just catty and clueless. I'm going to have to politely disagree.....I used to date a team roper.....so I've gone to several "jackpot" ropings. Alot of those riders are once heck of a hand with a horse....it's not all about "big bits, tiedowns, & cantering to the left." Some of those horses were some of the most brokest things I've ever seen, light in the mouths, and were dang good at their jobs. Roping is not easy, I've tried it and looked like a complete idiot...you have to have alot of skill to be able to handle a horse running at full speed, rating a steer and following through with your throw.
No, I agree, it certainly does NOT look easy! I didn't mean to make it sound that way at all. I sure couldn't do it BUT at least with many of the rope horses that I've met, they do their job well but just riding around they don't carry themselves very well... then again I see lots of barrel racers that way too. I don't dislike roping or ropers. I do hate tie downs though. I'd do away with them all together if I had my druthers. |
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     Location: SE KS | TNcowgirl88 - 2015-03-23 4:26 PM
I can say that I am probably one of the only team ropers with a little bling on my tack and polo wraps in the back.
Most ropers and like....what is on your horses back legs? Its funny to me. but i will have to agree with a previous comment. Some rope horses are the brokest horses I have ever sat on. My good rope horse was one of them. you could rope on him in a halter and never touch him and he knew his job. Some of them are spectacular.
Yes, definitely, one of our local team ropers backed his heel horse in the box, then took his bridle off
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