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sparky16
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-03-23 6:56 PM
Subject: Yearling colt pinning ears at feeding time



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We have a yearling stud colt that pins his ears at feeding time. How do I break this habit? We had him across from another horse(we purchased last summer) that does it and I believe he learned it from her. I have never had a horse that does that til her and now she's teaching it to the others.
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2015-03-23 7:02 PM
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 That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-23 8:29 PM
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My 9 year old gelding does this to. He is pretty much broke of it now. As soon as he does it i take his feed away and feed the other horses. Make him last. Then he is mr nice guy.
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-03-23 9:09 PM
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 Gelding will help but I would spend time working on him every time you feed him anyhow. There's something about working on them while they're eating that helps to make a lot of progress quickly. I do things like moving the hips over, side passing, moving shoulders, picking up feet. I'm working on stuff that will be used for riding but at the same time I'm teaching them to tolerate someone handling them while the food is there too. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-23 9:16 PM
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My horses get a smack on the hind end with a rope if they pin their ears when I am around.

It all comes down to respect, and if he is pinning his ears towards you he thinks he is superior to you.

I also play with my colts while eating, if they misbehave, I will move them away from their feed, when I have their attention ears forward feet where I want, I will allow them to come back and eat.
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sparky16
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-03-24 5:16 AM
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Douglas J Gordon - 2015-03-23 8:02 PM

 That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.

We do not plan on gelding him yet.
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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-03-24 6:22 AM
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He is a dominate horse from here on out you will always be working to stay on top of it because he will always be challenging you and it will get worse. We had a yearling filly who started dominate behavior even before a year. We constantly had I handle her differently then anyone else she made life extremely hard on her self. She was fine wih people but as 2year old was #1 mare and I had never seen a 2 year old be head lady in the heard. We sold her and the people that purchased her absolutely love her but do have trouble even getting around the in the warm up pen because she tries dominating every horse. Good luck.
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arion
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-03-24 6:44 AM
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sparky16 - 2015-03-24 5:16 AM

Douglas J Gordon - 2015-03-23 8:02 PM

 That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.

We do not plan on gelding him yet.

even better.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-03-24 7:31 AM
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My only other thought is ulcers/pain in the gut if this is a "new" thing that came on all of a sudden.  I have heard that horses can get them even when they are not hauled. 

Personally, I'd rule out pain whilst still whooping his butt for being a jerk. I am not a stallion owner, but I know these early years are important for all horses. Give an inch and they will take a mile...
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Carbon Copy
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-03-24 7:38 AM
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sparky16 - 2015-03-24 5:16 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2015-03-23 8:02 PM  That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.
We do not plan on gelding him yet.

Good luck with that.  If he's showing aggression at a yearling, if you get a handle on it he'll be out of hand. 
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horsepoor1
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-03-24 7:52 AM
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whoop that a$$- i don't tolerate any $h!t from my babies. Let them do it now, you've got a huge problem when they're 1200 lbs
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-03-24 8:07 AM
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sparky16 - 2015-03-24 6:16 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2015-03-23 8:02 PM  That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.
We do not plan on gelding him yet.

Is there a reason you are waiting?  
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-03-24 8:15 AM
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We've had some problems with this with some of our weanling fillies and yearlings. I will mess with them a ton while they are eating, brushing, etc. They are only allowed to eat if they are not misbehaving. I also, stall or pasture, will make them back off the feed and wait for my permission, swat them with a rope if they get too close. They are also not allowed to turn their butt to me, only head and ears (helps prevent kicking too). I don't have to do it much with the easy ones but the dominant ones sometimes its every day for a long time. They do learn. My three year old has gotten over this behavior and she was really bad as a weanling/yearling. We just stuck with it and she got over it.

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Fancy Lass
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-24 11:24 AM
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oija - 2015-03-24 8:15 AM

We've had some problems with this with some of our weanling fillies and yearlings. I will mess with them a ton while they are eating, brushing, etc. They are only allowed to eat if they are not misbehaving. I also, stall or pasture, will make them back off the feed and wait for my permission, swat them with a rope if they get too close. They are also not allowed to turn their butt to me, only head and ears (helps prevent kicking too). I don't have to do it much with the easy ones but the dominant ones sometimes its every day for a long time. They do learn. My three year old has gotten over this behavior and she was really bad as a weanling/yearling. We just stuck with it and she got over it.

I did this exactly with my filly . She was 6 months when I got her & boy did she have an attitude , like she was my boss . I wasn't taking that crap .. She got in trouble when she'd pin her ears .. I made her wait to eat until she was behaving , then id let her eat . I too mess with her a bunch when shes eating .. She used to pin her ears & try to bite me when I was messing with her when she ate , put a stop to that real fast . Now she's really good @ 11 months old . Sometimes she gets a look on her face if she doesn't like it , but I do it anyways & she knows better than to try anything anymore. She definitely had her way with the previous owners & it wasn't flying with me .
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-24 11:34 AM
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when they pin their ears, they have to wait to get their food. And i make sure to make them back away from me and their food bucket. If they continue to get pushy with me, they get the end of a lead rope. Doesn't take many of those times.. they learn fast
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ccarpe18
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2015-03-24 11:58 AM
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I have a 2 yr old stud colt. When it comes to feeding time, he is not allowed to touch the food until I "say" he can. I have had him since he was 7 months old. When I first got him, I would block his feed & pet him. If he had a problem with that, then I pushed him farther from the feed. Now when I feed he will reach out his neck for me to pet & wait until I back out of the stall to eat. 

Find something that works for you to control his dominance. Did he pin his ears for food when you first got him? Or is it a newer behavior? It sounds like a respect issue, & if you plan to keep him a stud, just make sure to be on the lookout, don't turn your back to him & always no matter what, make sure YOU are the dominant "horse".
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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2015-03-24 12:06 PM
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Geld him and tie him up for feeding time.

My yearling gets tied up at feeding time. He eats his grain and some aldalfa then we turn him back out with some calves and he doesn't pin his ears or get aggressive at all.
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Red Raider
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2015-03-24 5:12 PM
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ccarpe18 - 2015-03-24 11:58 AM I have a 2 yr old stud colt. When it comes to feeding time, he is not allowed to touch the food until I "say" he can. I have had him since he was 7 months old. When I first got him, I would block his feed & pet him. If he had a problem with that, then I pushed him farther from the feed. Now when I feed he will reach out his neck for me to pet & wait until I back out of the stall to eat.
This is pretty much what I've done with mine since he was old enough to feed.  In fact, I really can't mess with him too much when he is eating because it makes him nervous.  He sees me as the "lead mare" around this house and he tries to step away from the feed when I'm around him because that's what he'd do for a more dominant horse.  He'll let me brush him and braid his tail but if I try to make his backend move over or pick up feet, he sees me as moving him away from the feed and he yields to me in that capacity. 

I wouldn't put up with pinned ears -- especially from a stud -- so I'd get this problem nipped in the butt real quick. 


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sparky16
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-03-25 4:52 PM
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Murphy - 2015-03-24 9:07 AM

sparky16 - 2015-03-24 6:16 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2015-03-23 8:02 PM  That is a good sign that it is his feed and nobody is going to take it. He will calm down a bit once cut. Dominant.
We do not plan on gelding him yet.

Is there a reason you are waiting?  

Yes. We plan on keeping him a stud. We are waiting to futurity him.
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sparky16
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-03-25 4:54 PM
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No gelding suggestions. This is not our first stud colt. He is like a dog any other time we handle him. Gentle, will do anything you ask. Only problem is at feeding time.
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