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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 4:54 PM
Subject: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale



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I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

Edited: That was supposed to say "or send them as weanlings' ... when I am on my phone I can't read half of what I write... I should really get that phone screen fixed... Hehe Sorry for that and any other bad grammer, spelling or messed up sentences.

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Posted 2015-03-30 4:56 PM
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM

I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

I guess the first question is where would you sell?
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-03-30 5:02 PM
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Cell.   Just seemed to fit in with your title. 

Anyway.  I'd rather sell them as yearlings before they die on me.  I'd also send them to the LG or the BFA sale.  They seem to be the most consistently higher priced. 

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-03-30 5:05 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 5:02 PM Cell.   

Cell what?  
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-03-30 5:05 PM
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lol it just fit. 
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Posted 2015-03-30 5:09 PM
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I have to agree about the selling them before they die, scar themselves up, break a shoulder, etc. It seems to me that the weanlings almost bring more or near close to what the yearlings are bringing......you have to decide if the risk, work and money it will take to raise them another year is worth it to you. I'm not sure that it is. You getting them to Louisiana or Oklahoma is going to be another big expense on you. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-03-30 5:11 PM
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-03-30 5:13 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-30 5:11 PM Sail this then... LOL 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-03-30 5:14 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 5:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-30 5:11 PM Sail this then... LOL 
lol 

 
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 5:15 PM
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM

I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

I guess the first question is where would you sell?

That I am still trying to figure out, and partly why I asked. Somewhere down there! lol

I am going based of what people want before I start looking at what sales to target them towards. It would be a huge trip/expense for me to bring them so I want to make it worth it by doing my research, since I wouldn't want to bring them back and no sale them. I just know my horses have been overlooked because I live in no where across a boarder that no one seems to like to deal with. I would want one of the larger/well known sales obviously that is known for drawing crowds and serious buyers.
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Posted 2015-03-30 5:18 PM
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It's another 10 hours from here to the BFA sale, so I'd say target that audience lol.
 
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Posted 2015-03-30 5:30 PM
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You know, I tried the LG Sale with a very well broke 3 year old. Nice pedigree, speed, great disposition. For what it took for me to raise, feed, train her, I would have been in the hole had I sold her for 6k. Not to mention, the time and work involved. It would have probably gotten her in a good barrel home, because the audience there is such. I chose to futurity her myself, because I'd rather keep her for myself in the end than take a loss on her. So, would I wait that long again? I'm thinking I won't and am focusing on putting younger stock in the LG Sale next year. If for no other reason than that they will be eligible for the Sale Futurity. So, to answer your question, I'd go with younger stock.....weanlings/yearlings.....but, that fits my program right now. Never doubt that a proven, packed performance pedigree on a well trained horse will ususally bring good money. Guess you just have to decide what will be best for you now and you may change it in the future. If I had say 5 ASOF's, I'd haul those boogers as weanlings or yearlings.
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale



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LRQHS - 2015-03-30 5:30 PM

You know, I tried the LG Sale with a very well broke 3 year old. Nice pedigree, speed, great disposition. For what it took for me to raise, feed, train her, I would have been in the hole had I sold her for 6k. Not to mention, the time and work involved. It would have probably gotten her in a good barrel home, because the audience there is such. I chose to futurity her myself, because I'd rather keep her for myself in the end than take a loss on her. So, would I wait that long again? I'm thinking I won't and am focusing on putting younger stock in the LG Sale next year. If for no other reason than that they will be eligible for the Sale Futurity. So, to answer your question, I'd go with younger stock.....weanlings/yearlings.....but, that fits my program right now. Never doubt that a proven, packed performance pedigree on a well trained horse will ususally bring good money. Guess you just have to decide what will be best for you now and you may change it in the future. If I had say 5 ASOF's, I'd haul those boogers as weanlings or yearlings.

I get what your saying. Do you think if they hit awkward growing stages around the sale it will impact there prices a lot? I would obviously like to get rid of them as young as possible before they hurt themselves and cost me more $$ then they will 'already be doing. Also the longer I keep them the more likely they won't leave....



ETA: I am willing to sacrifice what would be ideal for what the consumer wants.... If they want older horses I will keep them but I would hope the fetch a bit more $$



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Posted 2015-03-30 5:44 PM
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I have considered this awkward growth spurt too lol. I don't know the answer but to feed them good, blanket and groom them. I guess if one looks too "awkward," I'll be coming home with him lol. 

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TheOldGrayMare
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Posted 2015-03-30 5:45 PM
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The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
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Posted 2015-03-30 5:47 PM
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I'll try a couple in the 2016 sale and I'll be the guinea pig lol. Just keep watching lol. 
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-30 5:56 PM
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Also something here, my yearlings won't be as old as others due to my climate. I am going for early April babies but it's a crap-shoot when breeding right, they might not catch...
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Whiteboy
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Posted 2015-03-30 6:07 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 

 

Edited by Whiteboy 2015-03-30 6:12 PM
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Posted 2015-03-30 7:58 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 6:07 PM

TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 

 

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and ftr, I sort of agree with her.

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