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Location: North Dakota | This is a little personal...but I'm at a loss as I've never experienced this before. I worked for a very large corporation for a year and a half. Last month, a couple of us from my department were rounded up and fired with a stupid excuse . There were no performance issues, in fact I was great at my job and was in the process of training a new employee. The interesting thing was that just shortly before, we all had to send in reviews of our bosses. My bosses were  holes to say the least. Not only did they treat us like untrustworthy slaves, but they mismanaged our department, did things behind HR's back, and were completely unreliable/ignorant of what actually goes on within the department. I know for a fact that us that were let go had recently given poor reviews of them. Now that I'm looking for another job, I'm afraid that saying "I was fired" is going to keep me from getting one, but I don't want to lie. Also, if I do get an interview, I don't know how to talk about this without sounding like I'm bad-mouthing the company. Any advice would be appreciated.
ETA- I was also planning on quitting anyway, just had wanted to get another job lined up first...
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Location: Kentucky | Just say you were let go due to a reorg. Don't bad mouth the company in an interview... New company will take notice to that. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,, |
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Location: Kentucky | komet. - 2015-04-03 2:21 AM Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,,
I work in recruiting and this isn't true. At least not in the state of KY. You can be terminated for any reason (at will), it does not have to be performance based. |
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Location: Texas | What was the stupid excuse? Im assuming you want to use your last job as a reference so I would go closely along with their reasoning so things match up. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Murphy - 2015-04-03 1:30 AM
komet. - 2015-04-03 2:21 AM Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,,
I work in recruiting and this isn't true. At least not in the state of KY. You can be terminated for any reason (at will), it does not have to be performance based.
So you can be fired without cause?? Say you're reaching retirement and they can fire you so they don't have to pay?? Oh Buddy!!!! No wonder they have so many people coming into job sites and killing the boss....
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Location: Kentucky | komet. - 2015-04-03 2:57 AM Murphy - 2015-04-03 1:30 AM komet. - 2015-04-03 2:21 AM Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,, I work in recruiting and this isn't true. At least not in the state of KY. You can be terminated for any reason (at will), it does not have to be performance based. So you can be fired without cause?? Say you're reaching retirement and they can fire you so they don't have to pay?? Oh Buddy!!!! No wonder they have so many people coming into job sites and killing the boss....
Yes. There would probably be an age discrimination lawsuit, but if the company has their ducks in a row, it would be tough to fight. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Murphy - 2015-04-03 2:19 AM
komet. - 2015-04-03 2:57 AM Murphy - 2015-04-03 1:30 AM komet. - 2015-04-03 2:21 AM Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,, I work in recruiting and this isn't true. At least not in the state of KY. You can be terminated for any reason (at will), it does not have to be performance based. So you can be fired without cause?? Say you're reaching retirement and they can fire you so they don't have to pay?? Oh Buddy!!!! No wonder they have so many people coming into job sites and killing the boss....
Age hell!!!! Imagine if the government decided to fire everyone after 19 years to avoid paying pension!!!!
My Dad put 20 years in the Armed Forces and then put 20 more in the USPS... Knowing me... Can you imagine his reaction if he got fired in his 19th year of both??????
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Location: North Dakota | outrundaizy - 2015-04-03 1:43 AM
What was the stupid excuse? Im assuming you want to use your last job as a reference so I would go closely along with their reasoning so things match up.
We work at night usually (4pm to either midnight or 4am) and there's snacks set out and there's a little own bucket you put money in they said it "looked" like I didn't put my $.75 in there one time. BUT I DID. They have no proof I didn't. There's no way for then to tell from where the security camera is. But it was my word against the boss. Another person's shift was unexpectedly changed (we are usually on a regular rotation) and he made an honest mistake and missed it and was fired the same time I was. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-04-03 3:28 AM
outrundaizy - 2015-04-03 1:43 AM
What was the stupid excuse? Im assuming you want to use your last job as a reference so I would go closely along with their reasoning so things match up.
We work at night usually (4pm to either midnight or 4am ) and there's snacks set out and there's a little own bucket you put money in they said it "looked" like I didn't put my $.75 in there one time. BUT I DID. They have no proof I didn't. There's no way for then to tell from where the security camera is. But it was my word against the boss. Another person's shift was unexpectedly changed (we are usually on a regular rotation ) and he made an honest mistake and missed it and was fired the same time I was.
OH!!!! You were fired over a voluntary 75 cents?? Oh man!!! I'd SO SUE those MFs.... I'd teach them a WHOLE new definition of seventyfive cents!!!   |
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Location: Florida | This is what happens in "Right to Work" states like Wisconson is now. Any employee can be let go for no reason. I know I will get flamed for saying this but this is why we need unions. It can't happen like this in a unionized workplace.
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Location: Texas | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-04-03 3:28 AM outrundaizy - 2015-04-03 1:43 AM What was the stupid excuse? Im assuming you want to use your last job as a reference so I would go closely along with their reasoning so things match up. We work at night usually (4pm to either midnight or 4am ) and there's snacks set out and there's a little own bucket you put money in they said it "looked" like I didn't put my $.75 in there one time. BUT I DID. They have no proof I didn't. There's no way for then to tell from where the security camera is. But it was my word against the boss. Another person's shift was unexpectedly changed (we are usually on a regular rotation ) and he made an honest mistake and missed it and was fired the same time I was.
Well I have no advice on that one... That honestly sounds like a joke to me.
Kind of scary that they can just let you go like that, I do hope you find another job, that treats you better too! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Vickie - 2015-04-03 4:35 AM
This is what happens in "Right to Work" states like Wisconson is now. Any employee can be let go for no reason. I know I will get flamed for saying this but this is why we need unions. It can't happen like this in a unionized workplace.
Flame suit on, fire away.
Well... I know when unions got started... and did great things... and i was there when they overstepped their bounds and got curtailed...I consider the Air Traffic Controller's Strike to be a terrorist act against this country.... so....where do we go from here? |
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Location: Midwest | Vickie - 2015-04-03 4:35 AM This is what happens in "Right to Work" states like Wisconson is now. Any employee can be let go for no reason. I know I will get flamed for saying this but this is why we need unions. It can't happen like this in a unionized workplace.
Flame suit on, fire away.
Nope. So much nope.
To the OP, I would say you were laid off/let go due to restructuring, as Murphy said. I doubt they will even ask. If you need a reference, give them a number of a co-worker you got along with, but I doubt they will call your previous employer. I swear, half the time they don't even call the references. |
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| Vickie - 2015-04-03 4:35 AM
This is what happens in "Right to Work" states like Wisconson is now. Any employee can be let go for no reason. I know I will get flamed for saying this but this is why we need unions. It can't happen like this in a unionized workplace.
Flame suit on, fire away.
I'm curious about this.
Based on that statement, when I, as an employer hire you I hire you for life?
You know what you as an employee are entitled to? You are entitled to receive the agreed upon compensation for work done.
Nothing else. Don't like that you say?
Go find a job somewhere that you like better. It's your right.
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Location: Florida.. | I am sure it wasnt the .75 .. it could have been any reason but I assure you it wasnt that.Id not assume ... There must have been conflicts and attitudes and restructuring.. Id not bad mouth any company thats a way to not get hired.. |
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| komet. - 2015-04-03 1:57 AM Murphy - 2015-04-03 1:30 AM komet. - 2015-04-03 2:21 AM Umm.. Usually in instances like that.. They must have previous employment reviews that disses your work protocol..... Myself. knowing my work ethic.... well... never mind,,, I work in recruiting and this isn't true. At least not in the state of KY. You can be terminated for any reason (at will), it does not have to be performance based. So you can be fired without cause?? Say you're reaching retirement and they can fire you so they don't have to pay?? Oh Buddy!!!! No wonder they have so many people coming into job sites and killing the boss....
Oklahoma is a "Right to work state" and I was told by the head HR guy "I don't need a reason to let anyone go, aka fire. I just need to say Your services are no longer needed!" NO paperwork needed. |
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| I was also told that your previous employer cannot state the reason you left. If they are asked about your work history legally they can say Yes she worked here from 2011 to 2012 THAT's IT. no reason for leaving can be stated legally. |
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Location: Midwest | arion - 2015-04-03 7:28 AM Vickie - 2015-04-03 4:35 AM This is what happens in "Right to Work" states like Wisconson is now. Any employee can be let go for no reason. I know I will get flamed for saying this but this is why we need unions. It can't happen like this in a unionized workplace.
Flame suit on, fire away. I'm curious about this. Based on that statement, when I, as an employer hire you I hire you for life? You know what you as an employee are entitled to? You are entitled to receive the agreed upon compensation for work done. Nothing else. Don't like that you say? Go find a job somewhere that you like better. It's your right.
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| suzy2qtee - 2015-04-03 8:13 AM
I was also told that your previous employer cannot state the reason you left. If they are asked about your work history legally they can say Yes she worked here from 2011 to 2012 THAT's IT. no reason for leaving can be stated legally.
That is for the most part true
In Texas you can also answer if they are eligible for rehire.
Pretty much nothing else.
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