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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-04-10 11:28 AM
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 I am predicting this will go viral - this is brutal. 

Found out he stole and injured the horse in attempting to get away. He wouldn't have had to worry about the cops if it had been mine. BUT the way they handled him is like whipping a horse after the fact in anger. No excuse. 



http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/04/10/ctn-sot-report-man-tased-beaten-by-deputies.cnn

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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-04-10 11:43 AM
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 Holy heck

That is absolutely REDICULOUS

there is no excuse

also, gotta say, that's a really good horse!!
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-04-10 11:49 AM
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If I fell off my horse, I'm pretty sure none of them would just stand there.  lol The guy deserved it.  If you dont want an ass whoopin, dont steal **** and try to run away.   If his mother had done more of it when he was young he would have learned his lesson then. 

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-04-10 11:50 AM
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This happened near my house.. HE RAN FROM THE COPS. Enough said. I will refrain from saying more.
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Posted 2015-04-10 11:53 AM
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No excuse for that and they should loose their jobs for that.   
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-04-10 11:55 AM
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What they did to that man, regardless of what he did, is unacceptable! They are held at a high standard, they looked like a gang of thugs! All of them are a disgrace to law enforcement!! But... they'll all be investigated and no charges will be filed... like usual!
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-04-10 11:56 AM
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 We have a justice system to punish people. 

There is no excuse to beat the SH!t out of someone in handcuffs that is already tased and down. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-04-10 11:56 AM
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Whiteboy - 2015-04-10 9:49 AM

If I fell off my horse, I'm pretty sure none of them would just stand there.Β  lolΒ The guy deserved it.Β Β If you dont want an ass whoopin, dont steal **** and try to run away.Β  Β If his mother had done more of it when he was young he would have learned his lesson then.Β 

Thank goodness someone else in this world sees it like I do. I don't care what color you are, you BROKE THE LAW, FLED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, if you get your butt whipped, it was your choice. Same goes for all this prison inmate rights junk, if you hadnt broke the law you wouldnt have to worry about it..

We have more people incarcerated in the USA than any other country in the world and we pay, on average, $40,000 PER INMATE of tax payer money to take care of them. DO we have more criminals than other countries? NO. Breaking the law in this country entitles you free food, free rent, in some cases free education etc.

In some other countries in the world if your in prison and you need food, family has to bring it or you don't get any.

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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-04-10 11:56 AM
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I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker!  As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught. 
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-04-10 12:04 PM
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FlyingJT - 2015-04-10 11:55 AM What they did to that man, regardless of what he did, is unacceptable! They are held at a high standard, they looked like a gang of thugs! All of them are a disgrace to law enforcement!! But... they'll all be investigated and no charges will be filed... like usual!

 That I is exactly the impression I got too...gang / pack mentality. 

Yes, he ran and if they wanted to be rough getting him cuffed to teach him a lesson, that is one thing. But this goes WAY WAY beyond that. This is like something you would see in Mexico or the middle east. We are supposed to be better than that. 
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-04-10 1:00 PM
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Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker!  As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught. 

Kinda my thoughts....  You could take my truck, trailer, saddle, pretty much anything out of my house, but if you mess with my dogs or horses, you will need the police to come save you.

Anyone know what he did during the chase?  How long had they been chasing him? 

 
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Posted 2015-04-10 1:08 PM
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FLITASTIC
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MS2011 - 2015-04-10 11:00 AM

Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker!Β  As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.Β 

Kinda my thoughts....Β  You could take my truck, trailer, saddle, pretty much anything out of my house, but if you mess with my dogs or horses, you will need the police to come save you.

Anyone know what he did during the chase?Β  How long had they been chasing him?Β 

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HERE Are THE FACTS, CUT AND PASTED FROM NEWS REPORT

In San Bernadino County on Thursday, sheriff’s deputies were reportedly serving a search warrant on Pusok in connection with an investigation into alleged identity theft.

He allegedly fled in a car, which he then abandoned. Pusok is alleged to have stolen a horse after encountering a group of riders on the edge of the Mojave desert, and to have then led officers on a hazardous chase through the rough landscape, during which the horse was reportedly injured.

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americanpride08
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Posted 2015-04-10 1:15 PM
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MS2011 - 2015-04-10 1:00 PM

Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker!Β  As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.Β 

Kinda my thoughts....Β  You could take my truck, trailer, saddle, pretty much anything out of my house, but if you mess with my dogs or horses, you will need the police to come save you.

Anyone know what he did during the chase?Β  How long had they been chasing him?Β 

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This... All the way. I would have been on another horse behind this idiot. He would have prayed the cops got to him before me...
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teebluesage
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2015-04-10 1:54 PM
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You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-04-10 1:56 PM
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It's one thing for A person to rough up someone that's loose for stealing/hurting their horse. It's another for an ENTIRE department to repeatedly beat on someone after they are restrained. Again, I would expect that in Mexico or Iran or from ISIS but not from our police. 
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Fairweather
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Posted 2015-04-10 2:07 PM
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teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.

I get that they never know who they are stopping and some of the most dangerous stops for them are late in small towns. I get that. But at the same time they need to have some common sense and turn their siren & lights off if they're stopping any kind of livestock. He could have done a quick check himself and then let you check the horses. I think nerves get the best of them - we have had several true family dogs get shot for barking alone on a traffic stop. They weren't threatening at all. But then again, if a dog unsettled them that much they don't need to be cops. 
 
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FLITASTIC
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teebluesage - 2015-04-10 11:54 AM

You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.

What if you were a drug dealer ( He didn't know you weren't) and you were using the innocent horse people cover to traffic your drugs? And you had a shot gun in the manger of the trailer? Cops have been brutally killed and caught off guard during routine traffic stops. I see both of your points, but the cop did nothing wrong in my opinion.
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FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 2:36 PM
teebluesage - 2015-04-10 11:54 AM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
What if you were a drug dealer ( He didn't know you weren't) and you were using the innocent horse people cover to traffic your drugs? And you had a shot gun in the manger of the trailer? Cops have been brutally killed and caught off guard during routine traffic stops. I see both of your points, but the cop did nothing wrong in my opinion.
^^^^ THIS..........many years ago that was exactly how they were transporting drugs (a well known barrel racer was involved) and they were stopping LOTS of trucks and horse trailers. 

Additionally, for safety reasons they are not allowed to turn off their lights, etc (siren, yes......lights no


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