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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I heard as many as 70. I have lived in WY my entire life, but even if you haven't, is there a reason people are driving this dang fast!?! The video totally miffs me off as I watch one truck after another come slamming into the one in front. The other longer ones shows most of the damage done. 20 some people injured but no deaths that I have read about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxlvxvG8zOE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9_iv_AtFJg
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Last time I went through there the limit was 75mph... just coming out of MT where they had no limit... But you drive according to the conditions.... you don't drive 100mph in fog or on ice or wet roads... I learned to drive defensively.. People have insurance and air bags now and don't do that anymore.. |
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     Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | speed limit is now 80 but that's no excuse. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I always thought for years that Wyoming was a safe place to drive-MOST know how to drive for the condions because we deal with them so often and we have a lot of wide open spaces. Some of the most wrecks actually happen from people falling asleep because you can drive 3 hours or more before you get to another town-gets a little boring and a nap sounds good.
I have driven up I-80 so often I could do it with my eyes closed, but I am still shocked that with that wet wet snow, ANY driver didn't have the common sense to slow the hell down. I don't care if they didn't know a wreck was up ahead or not, they shouldn't have been doing over 40 max in that stretch with those road conditions, still snowing with poor visibility. I am so thankful no one was killed.
My husband hauls cattle all over the state, but not usually that way. Seeing that really puts into perspective what he deals with when he is driving. I have a whole new respect for truckers, the good ones anyways.   |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | Wow, that is unreal! Do truckers not use CB's anymore? I would think others could easily tell the conditions and slow the heck down and talk to one another on their CB's. One other thing, I can't believe there is still snow falling in the lower 48 but I have never lived up north and it just amazes me! |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:26 PM
Wow, that is unreal! Β Do truckers not use CB's anymore? Β I would think others could easily tell the conditions and slow the heck down and talk to one another on their CB's. Β One other thing, I can't believe there is still snow falling in the lower 48 but I have never lived up north and it just amazes me!Β Β
In response to your CB question.... You can see there is nothing going the other way... to report the wreak... I'm amazed some of them even got stopped on that surface!!! My brother was an over the road driver and I KNOW how well he can drive... But these people still impress me..
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     Location: Red Raiderland | The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. He also says several didn't make it. I hope he is wrong. What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | He was being pretty negative as I think most of us would be seeing those kind of wrecks in person. A lot of the drivers had to be cut out, some went up under other trailers and even into their trailers. No one was killed though and I have pulled up several stories. Haven't heard of anyone dying of their injuries yet either which is a miracle. |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-04-17 8:46 PM He was being pretty negative as I think most of us would be seeing those kind of wrecks in person. A lot of the drivers had to be cut out, some went up under other trailers and even into their trailers. No one was killed though and I have pulled up several stories. Haven't heard of anyone dying of their injuries yet either which is a miracle.
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:43 PM
The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. Β He also says several didn't make it. Β I hope he is wrong. Β What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. Β Β
Having spent a lot of time on the road with CBs in the 70s and 80s in all weather conditions... I can shed some light on this.... First of all... the people IN the pileup are busy looking behind them for someone else about to hit them...You have to look in all directions in a situation like this.... Too busy to talk on the CB.... But even then, Those trailers block the signal so it will not reach out very far behind them on a clear day... Less on a day like this... and like I said.. the whole time the video played looking across the two lanes going the other direction, I didn't see anyone going the other way... So I'm guessing this was not the only road blockage in that area at that time... |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | komet. - 2015-04-17 9:13 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:43 PM The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. He also says several didn't make it. I hope he is wrong. What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. Having spent a lot of time on the road with CBs in the 70s and 80s in all weather conditions... I can shed some light on this.... First of all... the people IN the pileup are busy looking behind them for someone else about to hit them...You have to look in all directions in a situation like this.... Too busy to talk on the CB.... But even then, Those trailers block the signal so it will not reach out very far behind them on a clear day... Less on a day like this... and like I said.. the whole time the video played looking across the two lanes going the other direction, I didn't see anyone going the other way... So I'm guessing this was not the only road blockage in that area at that time...
I didn't know the signals get jammed in these situations. I also wasn't thinking that the ones that JUST GOT HIT would be able to radio it but those that were in the front seems like they would. Good insight though Komet. I sure hope the guy videoing called 911 before videoing. |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Kaycee - 2015-04-17 9:17 PM
komet. - 2015-04-17 9:13 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:43 PM The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. Β He also says several didn't make it. Β I hope he is wrong. Β What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. Β Β Having spent a lot of time on the road with CBs in the 70s and 80s in all weather conditions... I can shed some light on this.... First of all... the people IN the pileup are busy looking behind them for someone else about to hit them...You have to look in all directions in a situation like this.... Too busy to talk on the CB.... But even then, Those trailers block the signal so it will not reach out very far behind them on a clear day... Less on a day like this... and like I said.. the whole time the video played looking across the two lanes going the other direction, I didn't see anyone going the other way... So I'm guessing this was not the only road blockage in that area at that time...
I didn't know the signals get jammed in these situations. Β I also wasn't thinking that the ones that JUST GOT HIT would be able to radio it but those that were in the front seems like they would. Β Good insight though Komet. Β I sure hope the guy videoing called 911 before videoing. Β
Yes... In quiet (no skip) conditions the average (5 watt) CB will broadcast 20 miles to the sides and in front of a tractor trailer... But the trailer blocks the line of sight signal behind them because it stands higher than the antenna..
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Rescue workers were already on the scene in both videos. The short video you could hear the desperation and helplessness in her voice as she kept saying "slow down!!"
They were unable to be at the back due to the mess blocking the road and ditches and also being in the back was the worst place to be at that moment, but they were making their way through the mess cutting people out and doing what they could. I bet the Cheyenne/Laramie hospital staff was busy busy. |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-04-17 10:34 PM Rescue workers were already on the scene in both videos. The short video you could hear the desperation and helplessness in her voice as she kept saying "slow down!!"
They were unable to be at the back due to the mess blocking the road and ditches and also being in the back was the worst place to be at that moment, but they were making their way through the mess cutting people out and doing what they could. I bet the Cheyenne/Laramie hospital staff was busy busy.
I had my volume muted on the first video....doh! I didn't listen to any audio so here I am |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | komet. - 2015-04-17 10:31 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 9:17 PM komet. - 2015-04-17 9:13 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:43 PM The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. He also says several didn't make it. I hope he is wrong. What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. Having spent a lot of time on the road with CBs in the 70s and 80s in all weather conditions... I can shed some light on this.... First of all... the people IN the pileup are busy looking behind them for someone else about to hit them...You have to look in all directions in a situation like this.... Too busy to talk on the CB.... But even then, Those trailers block the signal so it will not reach out very far behind them on a clear day... Less on a day like this... and like I said.. the whole time the video played looking across the two lanes going the other direction, I didn't see anyone going the other way... So I'm guessing this was not the only road blockage in that area at that time... I didn't know the signals get jammed in these situations. I also wasn't thinking that the ones that JUST GOT HIT would be able to radio it but those that were in the front seems like they would. Good insight though Komet. I sure hope the guy videoing called 911 before videoing. Yes... In quiet (no skip ) conditions the average (5 watt ) CB will broadcast 20 miles to the sides and in front of a tractor trailer... But the trailer blocks the line of sight signal behind them because it stands higher than the antenna..
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         Location: Where I am happiest | This would be a good training video for drivers. My husband drives truck and was in Wy. yesterday but he wasnt involved in this frey. There is so much to learn from this video watcching this unfold. So many were obviously going way to fast for the conditions. And those cars, good grief dont pull all the way up in there to be the next pinned in and smashed. That camper van had the right idea, back the heck up on the shoulder and get plenty of distance so as to not be next. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Kaycee - 2015-04-17 9:52 PM komet. - 2015-04-17 10:31 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 9:17 PM komet. - 2015-04-17 9:13 PM Kaycee - 2015-04-17 8:43 PM The second video the guy says something about them not using their radios. He also says several didn't make it. I hope he is wrong. What a frightening feeling to be one of the ones sitting like a lame duck. Having spent a lot of time on the road with CBs in the 70s and 80s in all weather conditions... I can shed some light on this.... First of all... the people IN the pileup are busy looking behind them for someone else about to hit them...You have to look in all directions in a situation like this.... Too busy to talk on the CB.... But even then, Those trailers block the signal so it will not reach out very far behind them on a clear day... Less on a day like this... and like I said.. the whole time the video played looking across the two lanes going the other direction, I didn't see anyone going the other way... So I'm guessing this was not the only road blockage in that area at that time... I didn't know the signals get jammed in these situations. I also wasn't thinking that the ones that JUST GOT HIT would be able to radio it but those that were in the front seems like they would. Good insight though Komet. I sure hope the guy videoing called 911 before videoing. Yes... In quiet (no skip ) conditions the average (5 watt ) CB will broadcast 20 miles to the sides and in front of a tractor trailer... But the trailer blocks the line of sight signal behind them because it stands higher than the antenna.. Good info, I was totally unaware of that. My husband drives truck and they constanly tell their buddies running with them that are miles behind them, when the po po is out in front, or deer or...so the radios can and do work behind them. They work on a lot of different channels and I am not going to pretend the ins and outs of their radios, but guessing they are all on scattered channels or the guys in the wreck just had so many other things going on that they didn't think to call out??
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Kaycee - 2015-04-17 9:50 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-04-17 10:34 PM Rescue workers were already on the scene in both videos. The short video you could hear the desperation and helplessness in her voice as she kept saying "slow down!!"
They were unable to be at the back due to the mess blocking the road and ditches and also being in the back was the worst place to be at that moment, but they were making their way through the mess cutting people out and doing what they could. I bet the Cheyenne/Laramie hospital staff was busy busy. I had my volume muted on the first video....doh! I didn't listen to any audio so here I am
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     Location: Red Raiderland | ThreeCorners - 2015-04-17 11:10 PM This would be a good training video for drivers. My husband drives truck and was in Wy. yesterday but he wasnt involved in this frey. There is so much to learn from this video watcching this unfold. So many were obviously going way to fast for the conditions. And those cars, good grief dont pull all the way up in there to be the next pinned in and smashed. That camper van had the right idea, back the heck up on the shoulder and get plenty of distance so as to not be next.
I think you are right on with a training video. I was yelling at the computer screen for the ones coming up to get out of the road completely! I got stuck on I-20 in far east Texas with a blowout on the trailer that I could not keep limping on and there was a cement barricade keeping me only slightly on the right shoulder. I sat waiting for a DPS officer to escort me safely to the next exit which was over the hill but I had no idea it was there. It was a looong 30 minute wait as the semis SPED past me. I had two horses in a three horse and felt so vulnerable. I can't believe I didn't get hit or grazed. The officer couldn't believe the amount of sparks coming from that wheel when he followed me to the exit over the hill.  |
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