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| So for the last several days I have been surprised at the effort and persistance that has gone into the thread about the vet and the cat both here and on other social media outlets. One thing we all need to realize is that people come from different backgrounds. Morals are not the same across the board. What is wrong to some is acceptable to others. Much of our personal morals are established by our surroundings, our community, faith, family, and everybody we interact with.
I have sat back and watched you guys hang this girl up to dry for something you have no personal knowlede of or tie to. It is all based on blogs, facebook posts and an occasional vague press release from the local sherrifs department. Not much of it can be truely verified. And yet we have people trying to create a MOB to call in and get her lisence revoked, and ruin her life.
I do not condone what this girl has done, I would not have done it, but I know good people that would have. But regardless she made her choice and the consequences will follow. What I want to know is why people feel it is their responsibility to sit here and regurgitate the information you have seen and heard on social media? This is nothing more than bullying. The law enforcement have been involved, that is their job and purpose. I think it is okay for us all to step back and let things fall where they may.
Lots of people have made bad decisions in their lives...I'm sure each of you have been there. What you probably didn't do was post it on Facebook for all to see and criticize. So why sit and throw stones and this young lady, when you yourself has probably done something equally dispicable in someone elses eyes?
The second thing I notice is the length of this thread. While on Facebook today I saw a post about a young pregnant mother that was being told she would be forced to terminate the life of her unborn child because of a test result that indicated the child might have down syndrome. She felt forced into doing this because under her Obamacare insurance any issues would not be covered. Now I don't know how much of that is fact or not but what concerns me is DOCTORS ARE RECOMENDING THAT A MOTHER KILL HER UNBORN CHILD and nobody really even blinks an eye...but someone shoots a cat...and the entire would of social media is up in arms, and we think the liberal media is bad.
So are we really that detached as a nation that this cat becomes our call for action against a dumb kid and all the rest of the REAL issues that are going to destroy us as real people are just a side show for those that are interested?
I'm not trying to pick a fight...I just wanted to share a different perspective.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
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Location: OH. IO | We can be friends....but how would you feel if your stallion was in her territory and she shot him in the head? Is this the kind of vet you REALLY want to care for your pets? I can see your thoughts as she hoists up your boy and mommy takes a picture of the kill of a wild horse.Thoughts?
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I haven't seen a thread yet on the Unborn Child you mentioned...My guess is most of us here would be giving our thoughts on that issue and take up probably just as many pages in debate/outrage/sympathy.
One KEY difference might be that no one in that scenario sounds as though they WANT to kill the baby for sport. Its the apparent gleeful pride in the killing of the cat by the veterinarian that sets this cat story apart from your run of the mill person shooting a cat and quietly disposing of it. And this is a forum of folks that clearly care for and have compassion for animals. No surprise that this topic got our attention.
This is a forum for discussion...we are discussing. Why is it that some feel the need to concern themselves with whether or not a particular topic warrants the number of pages we use to discuss it? We comment where we have an interest and feel like contributing. It's pretty simple.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
I understand that what she did is not ethical to you and I. But what does her oath have to do with you and I?
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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM
Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
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Quite right... Every veterinarian swears an oath that states “primum non nocere” or “first do no harm”.... If she can't keep that basic oath I'd not want her licensed and practicing... |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:39 PM
 So for the last several days I have been surprised at the effort and persistance that has gone into the thread about the vet and the cat both here and on other social media outlets. One thing we all need to realize is that people come from different backgrounds. Morals are not the same across the board.  What is wrong to some is acceptable to others. Much of our personal morals are established by our surroundings, our community, faith, family, and everybody we interact with.Â
I have sat back and watched you guys hang this girl up to dry for something you have no personal knowlede of or tie to. It is all based on blogs, facebook posts and an occasional vague press release from the local sherrifs department. Not much of it can be truely verified. And yet we have people trying to create a MOB to call in and get her lisence revoked, and ruin her life.Â
I do not condone what this girl has done, I would not have done it, but I know good people that would have. But regardless she made her choice and the consequences will follow. What I want to know is why people feel it is their responsibility to sit here and regurgitate the information you have seen and heard on social media? This is nothing more than bullying. The law enforcement have been involved, that is their job and purpose. I think it is okay for us all to step back and let things fall where they may.Â
Lots of people have made bad decisions in their lives...I'm sure each of you have been there. What you probably didn't do was post it on Facebook for all to see and criticize. So why sit and throw stones and this young lady, when you yourself has probably done something equally dispicable in someone elses eyes?
The second thing I notice is the length of this thread. While on Facebook today I saw a post about a young pregnant mother that was being told she would be forced to terminate the life of her unborn child because of a test result that indicated the child might have down syndrome. She felt forced into doing this because under her Obamacare insurance any issues would not be covered. Now I don't know how much of that is fact or not but what concerns me is DOCTORS ARE RECOMENDING THAT A MOTHER KILL HER UNBORN CHILD and nobody really even blinks an eye...but someone shoots a cat...and the entire would of social media is up in arms, and we think the liberal media is bad.  Â
So are we really that detached as a nation that this cat becomes our call for action against a dumb kid and all the rest of the REAL issues that are going to destroy us as real people are just a side show for those that are interested?Â
I'm not trying to pick a fight...I just wanted to share a different perspective.Â
Why does my font keep changing?...
I doubt the doctors are recommending the girl abort, but are giving her all her choices, as should a competent doctor should.
If the health care will not cover predisposing issues on a newborn, I hope her community/state are trying to change this for all newborns. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | We are here on this board all for a reason WE are all animal lovers, not just horses but all kinds of animals and yes this is going on 15 pages but for a reason, This so called Vet took a Oath to care for pets, not to kill for pleasure and then show it off because she thinks shes a awesome chick. |
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| TrailGirl - 2015-04-21 4:52 PM I haven't seen a thread yet on the Unborn Child you mentioned...My guess is most of us here would be giving our thoughts on that issue and take up probably just as many pages in debate/outrage/sympathy. One KEY difference might be that no one in that scenario sounds as though they WANT to kill the baby for sport. Its the apparent gleeful pride in the killing of the cat by the veterinarian that sets this cat story apart from your run of the mill person shooting a cat and quietly disposing of it. And this is a forum of folks that clearly care for and have compassion for animals. No surprise that this topic got our attention. This is a forum for discussion...we are discussing. Why is it that some feel the need to concern themselves with whether or not a particular topic warrants the number of pages we use to discuss it? We comment where we have an interest and feel like contributing. It's pretty simple.
I'm not talking about just BHW, but rather all of social media. I have no problem with discussing...its the targeting that bothered me most I think. |
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| I don't have facebook so I had not heard about this. The doctors who are telling her this are going against their hippocratic oath, are they not? I am going to google this and see if I can find anything not on facebook about this. Poor girl, many prayers that she find an other way for her and the baby. 
I am a little shocked at the replies to Whiteboys' post.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I see your point I responded in the beginning that yes it was a dumb thing to post in FB. Especially her being a professional. I wonder why this has gone on so long because if it were certain barrel racers, trainers Eric., it surely would have been frozen. I have no answers for the other replies except this is America and we have the right to freedom of speech. I am not saying I agree with what she did, because I do not.
I mi also saw the post on FB about the child. Seems the world is going to hell in a hand basket as my mom used to say. |
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Location: Texas | Oh that is sad. My husband's aunt was pregnant and was told that her baby had Trisome 14? or something like that. I don't remember the name well but whatever it was most babies only live minutes or hours after they are born. She was almost pressured into an abortion but someone finally talked some sense into her. Her son is almost 6 now and I guess the doctors were wrong. He is perfecty fine.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:56 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
I understand that what she did is not ethical to you and I. But what does her oath have to do with you and I?
Really!!!! She swore to god and all humans and pets that she would take care of animals/pets, I guess that dont have no meaning to you...And heck no what she did was not ethical, and that oath I take very serious. |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:58 PM
TrailGirl - 2015-04-21 4:52 PM I haven't seen a thread yet on the Unborn Child you mentioned...My guess is most of us here would be giving our thoughts on that issue and take up probably just as many pages in debate/outrage/sympathy. One KEY difference might be that no one in that scenario sounds as though they WANT to kill the baby for sport. Its the apparent gleeful pride in the killing of the cat by the veterinarian that sets this cat story apart from your run of the mill person shooting a cat and quietly disposing of it. And this is a forum of folks that clearly care for and have compassion for animals. No surprise that this topic got our attention. This is a forum for discussion...we are discussing. Why is it that some feel the need to concern themselves with whether or not a particular topic warrants the number of pages we use to discuss it? We comment where we have an interest and feel like contributing. It's pretty simple.
I'm not talking about just BHW, but rather all of social media. I have no problem with discussing...its the targeting that bothered me most I think. Â
I read through some of the responses on her blog as well as social media and news reports. I kind of understand where you are coming from. Some of the things people wrote about her and what they wanted to do to her were down right disgusting. I think there is a large disconnect in our world. I can understand people requesting her license be suspended. I have never taken a cat to the vet but if I did I would question her morals about the treatment of that animal. What I can not understand is the people who are sending death and mutilation threats to her. In what world should a person consider an animal's life has more value than a humans? They are, in my opinion, no better than she. Just to make those kinds of threats is disturbing.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:56 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
I understand that what she did is not ethical to you and I. But what does her oath have to do with you and I?
Roxie, You are one of the most kind people I've ever known. You send a nice package to my nephew Lincoln when he was in the hospital. You are loving, sensitive and caring, and compasionate, and because of that I know you take this very serious. The world needs more people like you. |
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| Im a member on a bunch of hunting, fishing, trucks and MMA forums and this is the only forum full of "outrage".
Its just the squeaky wheel scenario and PC bullshiy in action.
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Location: Texas | jake16 - 2015-04-21 4:50 PM We can be friends....but how would you feel if your stallion was in her territory and she shot him in the head? Is this the kind of vet you REALLY want to care for your pets? I can see your thoughts as she hoists up your boy and mommy takes a picture of the kill of a wild horse.Thoughts?
She would not even have to shoot him; but PURPOSELESSLY harm or kill your animal. The ONE person, by law, who is suppose to do everything in their power to help, treat and save animals.
It's not a back porch rumor that was blown out of proportion. When the state board is involved there is a tad bit of legitimacy. Austin County Sheriffs have also done everything they are suppose to do. They investigated allegations, got statements and turned them over to the District Attorney, now the DA will do their job and determine the punishment of the woman who did not do her job.
As far as the pregnant woman, I do not have Facebook, I also have not heard or seen anything on the news this morning or at lunch. So, I will withhold my thoughts and opinions until I learn the details from a valid source. |
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| EqualRanch - 2015-04-21 5:09 PM jake16 - 2015-04-21 4:50 PM We can be friends....but how would you feel if your stallion was in her territory and she shot him in the head? Is this the kind of vet you REALLY want to care for your pets? I can see your thoughts as she hoists up your boy and mommy takes a picture of the kill of a wild horse.Thoughts? She would not even have to shoot him; but PURPOSELESSLY harm or kill your animal. The ONE person, by law, who is suppose to do everything in their power to help, treat and save animals.
It's not a back porch rumor that was blown out of proportion. When the state board is involved there is a tad bit of legitimacy. Austin County Sheriffs have also done everything they are suppose to do. They investigated allegations, got statements and turned them over to the District Attorney, now the DA will do their job and determine the punishment of the woman who did not do her job.
As far as the pregnant woman, I do not have Facebook, I also have not heard or seen anything on the news this morning or at lunch. So, I will withhold my thoughts and opinions until I learn the details from a valid source.
You just perfectly illistrated the disconnect I'm talking about. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 5:08 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:56 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
I understand that what she did is not ethical to you and I. But what does her oath have to do with you and I?
Thank you for the sweet words, but this Vet was really wrong in what she did, dont kill a pet for the fun of it and post it all over for the world to see. Super sad....
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| Whiteboy - 2015-04-21 4:56 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-21 4:49 PM Whiteboy she took an Oath, does that not mean anything?!!!
I understand that what she did is not ethical to you and I. But what does her oath have to do with you and I?
I 100% disagree with the threats she and her family have been getting. Some of the comments on other sites seem to be from people just as wacko as this chick is, some scary stuff to say the least.
It is up to the authorities to decide what her fate will be.
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