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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-05 5:16 PM
Subject: Horse breaking tie downs??


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It seems like every other run I make on my barrel horse, she is snapping her tie down strap. They are nice quality leather, I check them before every run, but they break at a hole very frequently. This, of course, then messes up our run because she braces and there is nothing there. What tie downs would be good for a hard setting horse like this? She's a 16 hand 1300lbs tank of a mare, and it isn't super tight. Would nylon or rubber work better? Or should we double up on the tie down? I mean, the first time was tough luck, this is at least the 10th run where we have broken a tie down, and its getting kinda old. Some have been older than others, but one was brand new when she broke it.

So anyone have any suggestions?
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-05-05 5:26 PM
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What kind of tie-down are you using?
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-05 5:30 PM
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She's breaking the strap, but we use a leather noseband with a leather strap.

Edited by FlyingHigh1454 2015-05-05 5:31 PM
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ChasingCans04
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-05-05 6:38 PM
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Maybe try a leather noseband with a nylon tie down.
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missroselee
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Posted 2015-05-05 6:40 PM
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Why does she need the tie down? 
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EqualRanch
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-05-05 7:02 PM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-05-05 5:30 PM She's breaking the strap, but we use a leather noseband with a leather strap.

I understand. Why not try a wrapped rope or cable nose tie-down. Horses don't brace nearly as hard on them because of the added pressure.
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BBKitamanCutter
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-05-05 7:56 PM
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Do you have a video of her running? 
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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-05-05 8:17 PM
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Are you sure it's not too tight? 
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reditorun
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-05-05 9:38 PM
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My big guy used to do this until I switched to a roping type tiedown made out of rawhide.
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-07 7:33 AM
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She uses it to brace on to turn. We have tried her without it and she doesn't turn as well. We have tried her in a rope noseband, but she wouldn't run as hard, she like hid behind it. She's a very light horse and it's very easy to over do her tack. It's not very tight, at all. I have a video of our run in a borrowed tie down that was quite the right length.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203856188196801&id=158...
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-05-07 8:20 AM
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Nylon.  All of ours are the 1" wide with the "slide to adjust" type hardware, no holes, cheap too (less than $15 I think)  nrsworld used to have them. 
nrs website is slow this morning, found them on smith brothers

would be worth a try

http://www.smithbrothers.com/nylon-tie-down/p/X3-120001/
 

Edited by LMS 2015-05-07 8:23 AM
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barrelrider
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-05-07 9:18 AM
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Have her checked by a chiropractor. My old barrel horse would snap his going into the second. I thought his tie downs were poorly made, but I soon found out different.
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-07 9:54 AM
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FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-05-07 8:33 AM

She uses it to brace on to turn. We have tried her without it and she doesn't turn as well. We have tried her in a rope noseband, but she wouldn't run as hard, she like hid behind it. She's a very light horse and it's very easy to over do her tack. It's not very tight, at all. I have a video of our run in a borrowed tie down that was quite the right length.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203856188196801&id=158...


If she's snapping tie downs but once you go with a bigger tie down she hides behind it or won't clock then you probably have a soundness issue.

I am not a fan of flat leather tie-downs tho because they cause a horse to lean into them and brace, for some horses and riders this can work but just not my style. I like piggin string rope, chain, or wire (you can wrap any I just mentioned with black electric tape) And none of those are left tight unless someone is being very naughty but then they will probably get a bonnet if they are.

Bottom line she's bracing on it too much from pain, its annoying her, or she's not respecting it. Figure out her problem...

Edited by astreakinchic 2015-05-07 9:55 AM
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-07 11:00 AM
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She just came off of an 8 month layoff, last week she got her teeth floated, hocks and coffin bones injected. She is like a fresh horse body and mind wise. I'm gonna try the nylon tie down strap and see if that doesn't help, but I don't think it is a physical problem since we fixed up everything that made her sore before her break.
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-07 11:04 AM
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This game is all about problem solving so it could be a number of things and switching might help you. But I'd like to caution that just because you gave time off and had injections does not mean you found the actual cause of the lameness if there was any.
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-07 11:08 AM
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She wasn't lame before we laid her off, but when we took her to the vet and did a lameness test to see if she needed anything done and she was a bit off so we did the injections.
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jschipper
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2015-05-07 2:01 PM
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I havent read thru everything but have you tried a bungee tie down?? Has some give to them so horses basically "bounce" off it.
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-07 2:03 PM
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My green, not nearly as hard turning colt broke right through one of those, so no, I don't trust them on this huge, hard setting finished mare.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-05-07 8:17 PM
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Are you buying cheap tie downs?

Also can you post a picture of a tie down on your horse and where it is supposed to be set?

As I cannot fathom a horse breaking one as I know a lot of calf rappers who tie their horses down tight and have never broke one.
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-07 9:15 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2015-05-07 9:17 PM

Are you buying cheap tie downs?

Also can you post a picture of a tie down on your horse and where it is supposed to be set?

As I cannot fathom a horse breaking one as I know a lot of calf rappers who tie their horses down tight and have never broke one.

No, they are not cheap. They are pretty nice quality leather. This horse puts roping horses to shame size wise.

Let me see if I can find a closer picture of it. Give me a second.

ETA: That's the closest I can find of it that we aren't running.

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