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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | A friend treated her horse with a month's worth of generic omeprazole, but vet decided he had colon ulcers, so had friend buy a month's worth of Gastro Guard (same thing).
Isn't treatment of hind gut ulcers treated with a different medication?
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| Correct. Omeprazole does not treat hind gut ulcers. Equi sure does. |
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| How do you check for hind gut ulcers? Pressure points? |
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| Succeed. It claims to heal them.
When my mare was diagnosed (succeed fecal test) I did 90 days of succeed and went to a cheaper mainentance supplement (smart gut by smartpak).
ETA: I was also told 1/2-1cup corn oil on their feed morning and night helps hindgut issues because it changes the way they break down fats? Anyways, between the succeed, smartgut and corn oil I saw a big difference in her. Now everyone gets 1/2c corn oil twice a day just 'cuz.
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A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | Itsme - 2015-05-05 8:22 PM How do you check for hind gut ulcers? Pressure points?
Fecal test for blood |
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| I treat with Oxy Ulcsr since it will heal both front and hind gut ulcers. Then I move on to the daily preventative Oxy Max which has many added benefits beyond the preventative. DM me if you have any questions. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Try Succeed (the paste, never had much luck with the granules) or GastroPlus from THE. It really just depends on the horse, you have to experiment to see what they do best with. I also had a really nice filly do a complete 180 when we pulled her off all ulcer meds and put her on a lower starch pellet and Seabuck, so you just never know what will work for some horses.
Long term use of Omeprazole can actually cause hind gut ulcers because the lack of stomach acid can upset the pH in the hind gut. Some horses do just fine on it long term, others can really get screwed up after just 2-3 months.
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| Platinum Gastric Support is what my vet recommended and my mare was noticeably better within 48 hours. When I run out or think I can do without it within 30 days of being off it my mare feels badly. It's a bit pricey but the improvement I saw was remarkable. |
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| Equishure Look at the web site very good information about ulcers www.ker.com |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Only way to know for sure if a horse has hind gut ulcers is to scope there and that is very difficult or not possible. It is a very small percentage that a horse has hind gut ulcers. If a vet recommends omeprazole for hind gut you are just throwing money away. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | THE GastroPLUS for hind gut. $115.95 for 32 doses. |
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| My vet told me the succeed blood fecal test was very unreliable. |
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| http://www.depaoloequineconcepts.com/products/excel
Omeprazole only treats foregut ulcers.
I use excel and have noticed a difference, it was recommended by my chiropractor.
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| Raniditine |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | We did a stomach tap to check for colon ulcers. The goal with colon ulcers is to encourage mucuous in the gut so that it's protected and food slides through. Flax, herbs like slippery elm, etc help with that. Joint supplements, beet pulp, and molasses all can irritate their gut too. Dramamine also does a number on the colon, as well as Bute. |
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Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Also, most gastric products don't help colonic ulcers because the problem isn't acid, plus they don't even reach the colon. Last time I had a scope, which it was a while ago, it only reached the stomach as well. It did not go into the colon. |
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| There are supplements out there. Like smooth run that are microencapsulated and make the hind gut just fine. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I gave THE GastroPlus back in 2005 to my gelding that had colonic ulcers. Back then there really wasn't any way to check for colonic ulcers. He had all of the ulcer symptoms but his scope came back clean. Bob from THE had me send him a full blood chem panel and he said he suspected colonic ulcers through the blood test results. He bloomed on the THE GastroPlus. Speed forward 3 years and he colicked and I took him to a different vet and he ultrasounded his organs and also checked him rectally where he said he had thickenings that were from healed ulcers. (can't remember the vet term for it) |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | We've always had great results with Succeed. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | kmcsunshine - 2015-05-06 5:40 AM Raniditine
I agree on the raniditine. IMO this needs to be the first medication in because if you have ulcers at the pyloric region it treats them best. I have used Succeed on haulers and had good results and know of many that had made the NFR on it. I used Equishur last year and know that I will use it again in horses that I'm starting to ease into their careers.
I worked for several trainers back in the 80's. One I rode horses for AQHA point shows. They had several winners in the 'Super Horse' and I loped horses in the morning. I saw baking soda used on the race horses and the high performance horse. |
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