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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | Im looking for a new puppy. I want a barn buddy. We have a large property for them to play just wanting some input on which of these breeds your prefer and why. |
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| Rat Terrier. Probably biased because we have had some great ones, but it seems like the Jack Russels I see are more yappy. Our Rats only bark if there is a problem. They are so loyal and smart, not scared of anything. I absolutely love them and think they are the perfect size too. |
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| Either are great dogs - We have had some great jack russel dogs and are very loyal to the breed. However in all our travels I do see many JR that can be yappy but the interesting thing and don't want to get into a discussion about this. The yappy ones all seem to belong to barrel racers which we are - ha ha however we competed in cutting horse events for years and the cutter jacks were quiet very trained and very social. The jacks can be very aggressive toward the same sex and can go from play to all out war in a matter of seconds. When we were getting out first one I ask a cutting horse trainer who also raised jacks what to look for she laughed and said make sure their tail is docked long enough to reach in and grab one without getting bit and long enough to grab to pull them out of pipes when they are hunting. We ended up getting one of her puppys and was in love with the breed. |
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| Jack Russel... I had a shorty and loved him, best little guy. Thankfully he wasn't a yapper!! |
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Location: CTX | Never had a JRT so can't speak for them, but we have a rat terrorist... I got his out of the shelter in 2005, and he was guesstimated at 4 years old. I had to get him neutered at that point, so he pees on EVERYTHING!! (Think it's a dominant thing)
Also he yaps, ALL THE TIME!!
We have 5 acres, but he gets in arguments with our heeler (who can roam around) so we can't leave both of them out together when not supervised.... so we needed to figure out which one of them could run free. Well, the rat also digs everywhere.... and he like to chase and explore... beyond our fences..
We decided he had to get his own pen, it is lined with drive way gravel (can't remember the name...) to keep him from digging too much. He still digs, but can't go very deep. We let him out when we are outside, and his pen is big enough for him to run in, so no problem there..
Hubby told me we could never get another terrier, period.... he tolerates him.... I told him, I got him out of the shelter, he will stay with me tiil his last day. I will not give him up because he has some quircks...
But to be honest, if I could get one at 6-8 weeks old and be able to train him myself I wouldn't have a problem with another rat.
Just my observations and experiences with a rat terrorist.....
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I have the best of both worlds - a Jack Rat. Less hyper than a JT but more spunk that a RT. |
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Location: Central Texas | I'm partial to the Rat Terriers. I had one for 16 yrs. I rescued her from freezing to death when she was about 4 weeks old....never intended to keep her ( I'm a big dog person) but I did. She was a great dog if you over looked her ability to escape any pen. She was never yappy. She held her own with the big dogs and was super protective of me when I was sleeping. I think she thought her job in life was to guard me from any and all people and animals while I was asleep. |
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| cranky B4 10am - 2015-05-07 9:14 AM
Never had a JRT so can't speak for them, but we have a rat terrorist... I got his out of the shelter in 2005, and he was guesstimated at 4 years old. I had to get him neutered at that point, so he pees on EVERYTHING!! (Think it's a dominant thing)
Also he yaps, ALL THE TIME!!
We have 5 acres, but he gets in arguments with our heeler (who can roam around) so we can't leave both of them out together when not supervised.... so we needed to figure out which one of them could run free. Well, the rat also digs everywhere.... and he like to chase and explore... beyond our fences..
We decided he had to get his own pen, it is lined with drive way gravel (can't remember the name...) to keep him from digging too much. He still digs, but can't go very deep. We let him out when we are outside, and his pen is big enough for him to run in, so no problem there..
Hubby told me we could never get another terrier, period.... he tolerates him.... I told him, I got him out of the shelter, he will stay with me tiil his last day. I will not give him up because he has some quircks...
But to be honest, if I could get one at 6-8 weeks old and be able to train him myself I wouldn't have a problem with another rat.
Just my observations and experiences with a rat terrorist.....
I am amused that you call them Rat Terrorists!
We call them Rat Terrorists and Jack Devils!
My grandmother had a whole slew of Terrorists. They bark and bite. It could be because she was too old to properly discipline. A friend of mine had a wonderful one however. He was a great little dog and went every where with her.
I personally have never met a Devil I ever liked. The ones I knew that didn't nip, yapped, the ones that didn't yap pee'd on everything, and they were all escape artists. Some people we roped with had one and he was awful. He would pee on saddles, bridles hanging on the fence, halters left dangling at the trailer, rope bags, jackets, you name it. If he could lift his leg on it he would. He gave me a sever distaste for the breed. Our old neighbors had three of them and they were always out. After they moved out of the area they ended up losing one completely. It escaped their yard and they were never able to locate it.
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Location: South Georgia | I have two JRT's and they are the best dogs I have ever had my entire life. They are 13 and 12 now, but they still get up and go like they are spring chickens. They get excited when we have visitors, but other than that, they are calm and cool. They are my shadows and follow me everywhere. I don't want to imagine life without my boys. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Neither are on my "wish list" but my MIL has a jack. They come to my house every weekend and while Penny can be kinda sweet....I'm not her biggest fan. She isn't a yapped, but growls all the dang time at my dogs (it's their house) and sometimes my son who just turned 4--uh... No!!!!
You have to keep a pretty close eye on her outside of she will get on the trail of something and disappear. She also sheds something horrible...all year long. She's pretty neurotic and chases light specks and shadows and won't stop. And, to top it off, she poops in my basement pretty regularly. So no, I'm not a fan. But my MIL loves her and it's pretty much all she has left, so I keep my mouth shut but don't let her on my furniture. |
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| We have 2 JRTs. Neither are yappy or crazed but they have free roam of 60 acres & I am sure they are moving all day. They live to trail ride with me and I love that. Both were rescues. Before them I had corgis and that by far were my favorite two dogs ever. I know some of it is bred in them but some dogs tend to be what you make them and it has alot to do with how you spend your time with them. I also have a long haired chihuahua whos a straight up bad to the bone killer and shes plenty yappy enough for 10 dogs. |
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Location: MS | My mom raises Jack Russells and I've honestly never been much of a fan. But, my 2 year old that is scared to death of a dog picked him out a puppy and named her (out of the blue and completely surprised us). We have to stop at my mom's house everyday so he can play with her. We will be bringing her home sometime this week or next week.
My mom's are crazy but she doesn't train them or discipline them. She just lets them do whatever they want. I hope ours will be different because we will train her and I hope she will be a companion, and protector, for my little boy when he's running around our place. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | Thank you guys for all the replys. I have more questions though and hope some of you will fill in the gaps.
sounds like the males are very territorial and heavy hikers... lol so are these breeding males or nuetered? do you think its a training issue or breed issue?
I am looking for a shadow and one who is respectfull of me. Will i be able to call off a terrier if they are after something? again is this a training issue or breed? |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | I have had both. A rat when I was a kid, very fragile,
she broke both her frot legs jumping out my truck
and now I have two jack Russell's, which I love
very hearty, loyal dogs, some are neurotic,
but one of mine is laid back, very obedient and a Mommas boys
by my side all the time. And protective!!. If I had to choose
between the two again it would be a jack. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | This little dog, Goose, is a Jackrat...1/2 & 1/2...gotta love him.....I prefer all Jack Russell...I love the breed....LOL
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Location: Mi | I've had a Rat Terrier for 15 yrs, she just turned 15 yesterday actually, so I might be a little partial. I've never had a Jack Russel but have no interest in having one either, the ones I've seen anyways. My Rat goes everywhere with me. Shes NOT yappy. She will bark once in awhile, but for the most part you never hear her. She is a hunter still at 15. She travels everywhere with me, and you never know shes with you. Out in the barn shes with me, but always hunting looking smelling and will go after something if she finds it and it doesn't belong, but you can also call her back too if you don't want her to. She doesn't bother our cats, chickens and things like that. She has been the BEST dog! If I could have another just like her I would in a second. Shes hardy enough to fend for herself, but shes small enough to make it esay to take her places etc. Shes 10 lbs and 10" tall. LOVE her to pieces! |
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| luluwhit - 2015-05-07 10:40 AM
Thank you guys for all the replys. I have more questions though and hope some of you will fill in the gaps.
sounds like the males are very territorial and heavy hikers... lol so are these breeding males or nuetered? do you think its a training issue or breed issue?
I am looking for a shadow and one who is respectfull of me. Will i be able to call off a terrier if they are after something? again is this a training issue or breed?
The Jack I referred to was intact. |
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Location: South Georgia | luluwhit - 2015-05-07 11:40 AM Thank you guys for all the replys. I have more questions though and hope some of you will fill in the gaps.
sounds like the males are very territorial and heavy hikers... lol so are these breeding males or nuetered? do you think its a training issue or breed issue?
I am looking for a shadow and one who is respectfull of me. Will i be able to call off a terrier if they are after something? again is this a training issue or breed? Yes, the males will mark their territory. I believe it is a training issue. I have two boys, and neither of mine do it....unless we go to another person's yard or whatever. Mine are mindful, listen to commands, do tricks, and will stay with me in the yard. If they were to run after something, they'd most definitely stop if I called them. All training issues. Also, mine are not "yappy." I have one that barks more than the other, but its not excessive and its not like you generally think of when you think of a "yappy" dog at all.
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| luluwhit - 2015-05-07 10:40 AM
Thank you guys for all the replys. I have more questions though and hope some of you will fill in the gaps.
sounds like the males are very territorial and heavy hikers... lol so are these breeding males or nuetered? do you think its a training issue or breed issue?
I am looking for a shadow and one who is respectfull of me. Will i be able to call off a terrier if they are after something? again is this a training issue or breed?
I had a male and a female Jack, I can't imagine that I could have called either off of something - ever. The female "stalked" my koi and killed several of them, the male killed any cat that came in the yard (but was fine with the house cats).
I raised 2 litters - neat, fun dogs BUT, I don't think I would have another - I like the way Heelers mind and my Jacks were too hard-headed. |
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