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| I got an 7yr. old gelding about 7months ago, was told kid horse & old lady safe, did everything, barrels, poles, breakaway, had several videos on barrels, & poles, none on roping. Went and rode him, took me about couple of weeks to go ahead & take him. Went to team penning, all hell broke out, scared to death of cattle & all the surroundings, let me tell you the so called trainer I got him from won't call me back. All I want is a horse that I can trust to have fun on to do barrels, plus move cattle. I am too old to deal with a project! He has teeth done, vet checked, chiro. really don't want to put more money in him. So how do I sell him & trust someone to get me what I want? | |
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Location: North Dakota | Had the horse been used for team penning before? | |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | How is he when u ride him at home.....M | |
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| The ad said, Barrels, Poles, Goat tying, Breakaway, Ranch Horse, ALL Around, we got cattle here, scares him, he does the barrels, enter him a couple times, didn't want to go in alley, but I finally got him in. Spooks at everything. I can't relax & enjoy myself. I would never put a kid on him. Had him check for EPM, some where down the line he has been abused, very head shy. I have put a lot money in him, now I am at the point I give up, maybe getting back in barrels after 30 plus yrs. is not in the cards for me. | |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Find another horse and trade since you don't want a project.
He might be fine in the right hands with the right person but you may not be right for him, and vice versa. People that don't want projects usually don't do too well with horses that require a rider to be relaxed and calm and confident.
I just found a horse for a client that needed a kid broke horse because she was a beginner. The problem wasn't that she was trying horses that weren't broke. The problem was she was too tense and squeezing too much - broke horses are going to move when you squeeze whether you realize it or not. She didn't need a kid broke horse, she needed more -- a dead head that would just stand there when she asked it to go. Found her a nice mare with a decent handle that has no intention of going anywhere fast & it's a good match. | |
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| Where are you located? Seek a professional in your area...possibly with some lessons you and the horse could be just fine. If not they will probably be able to help you find a new horse that does fit you. | |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-05-07 1:33 PM Where are you located? Seek a professional in your area...possibly with some lessons you and the horse could be just fine. If not they will probably be able to help you find a new horse that does fit you.
Ditto, we bought our 13 year old daughter a high dollar horse, tried him at an event, all was great. Brought him home and they were touring the arena. Our 14 year old daughter tried him and they were great together, she and her sister switched horses for a couple of months. My 13 year old got back on him with some new confidence and determination to ride him like her sister did and this time they clicked, won lots of 1d checks. Always try a horse away from home before buying! | |
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| Would love to trade, since I have been out of the rodeo life for awhile, Don't know you to trust! | |
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| If he is scared of cattle he is just scared of cattle and highly doubt he has been a rope horse or ranch horse. Unless by rope horse they mean the roped the bale on him and by ranch work they meant the did a lot of trail riding. I can't tell you how many of those kind of rope/ranch horses I see on the market.
Did he always act like this or did this behavior just start?
I am sorry you and the horse are not clicking. I would think after 7 months you and him would start to get things figured out. Maybe you are squeezing him or hitting him with your calves and don't know it but in my opinion, a horse sold as a kids/grandma horse should not be an idiot no matter where you take him.
It does not surprise me that the person you bought him from is not returning calls. Horse sales are a risky business. It's kind of an all sales final, buyer beware thing. When that horse left the barn the trainer was probably happy to see him leave and never wanted him to come back. It is, in my opinion very unprofessional for that person not to call you back however.
I would try to sell him, disclose everything you know about him to potential buyers and try to get what you can out of him. It is very unlikely that you will recoup all of the money you invested in him but maybe you'll get lucky.
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| This is honestly why I hate buying and selling horses. There's a lot of crooked people out there.
I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this. It's very frustrating! | |
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Location: Desert Land | Have you tried treating him for ulcers? Ulcers will make them do goofy things. Especially if you are graining him or feeding him something they weren't. I'm not taking sides on who is right or wrong or whatever, but just something I would try. Also, if I was buying a horse for a particular use (i.e. cattle work) I would be trying them on cattle or gotten videos of him doing such before I bought especially since you said it took you a few weeks to make the purchase. I have made that mistake myself and learned from it. | |
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Location: North Dakota | Without seeing the horse before and after, it's hard to tell if the seller outright lied to you, or if you and this horse simply are not a good match. I'm not saying one way or the other, but both scenarios are possibilities.
I've seen "beginner-safe" horses that work fine for one family's child but when a different familiy buys the horse, it is suddently not beginner safe anymore. Of course the horse didn't change, but its environment and its riders did. Horses are like people; they don't click with everyone.
Either way, sorry you and your horse are not working out. I guess either take some lessons to see if you can work through any problems with your horse, or bite the bullet and sell him.
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Location: Deep South | I'm not saying you didn't buy a lemon of a horse from a sketchy trainer. That does happen.
BUT... Seven months is plenty of times for an inexperienced, or timid horse person to ruin what once was a decent horse. I have seen this plenty of times. I myself have sold a tried and true LEGIT proven kids horse that had been put to the test on everything imaginable to a family with three kids. Within a couple of months the horse was a full blown basket case.
I would consider the things that have changed since you bought him first. Like for instance, you said he had a few weeks off before you rode him the first time. Maybe he's one that gets fresh if he sits for a while. Has his amount of turn out time changed? Has his feed changed? Is he turned out with other horses? Were the previous owners riding him heavily every day, where you now only ride him lightly?
All of these are factors that could add just a "little" edge to a horse, that make a BIG difference when you put a timid rider on them. | |
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Location: The edge of no where | If you weren't going to like the horse and had an issue with the seller, then it should've come up in a month at the most. I've seen plenty of nice horses not work out when not riden and handled the way they are accustomed to being. Not wanting to go in the alley could be from any number of issues. If you can go find someone in your area to take some lessons from, it might help a lot. I don't blame the seller a bit for not returning your calls after 7 months........they don't know what you've been doing with the horse since you've had it. Expecting someone to take a horse back after that long is unrealistic. 1 month, I'd say maybe you have a leg to stand on...but at this point, not so much.
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| Guess I didn't explain my self, I rodeo hard in the 80's won saddles, etc, so I am not a beginner rider, just took time off to have a family, now that I am getting back into it, was looking at horses, yes I rode him away from home, my mistake I didn't try him on cattle or roping, just took their word. I studied on this for a couple of weeks, then made the purchase. The next week end that's when I took him to team penning, spooked at banners, announcer, people, the Next day is when I called the previous owners, yes, No call backs, I didn't wait 7 months. All this time I have been trying to get him over this, Now I am just done with it, it should be fun at my age, not a headache | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would do a tack check on him to make sure everything is fitting right. | |
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Location: Red Raiderland | bullwoman - 2015-05-07 3:22 PM Guess I didn't explain my self, I rodeo hard in the 80's won saddles, etc, so I am not a beginner rider, just took time off to have a family, now that I am getting back into it, was looking at horses, yes I rode him away from home, my mistake I didn't try him on cattle or roping, just took their word. I studied on this for a couple of weeks, then made the purchase. The next week end that's when I took him to team penning, spooked at banners, announcer, people, the Next day is when I called the previous owners, yes, No call backs, I didn't wait 7 months. All this time I have been trying to get him over this, Now I am just done with it, it should be fun at my age, not a headache How long has it been since you rode on a regular basis? Rodeoing in the 80's was a loooong time ago to not have been on a horse.  Do you have any current video of you riding him?
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Location: Where I am happiest | What state are you in? | |
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| Dang, haven't complete in barrels since the 80's, but rode ranch horses, guess it's my fault the horse isn't what he supposed to be. | |
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| I wouldn't call him anymore. I would haul him to the guy and ask him to ride him and show me what kind of rope and ranch horse you bought and if he refuses. You will know what kind of guy your dealing with a crook | |
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