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Location: Ft Worth TX | Best economical treatment for EPM- Any natural treatments? |
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| Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Rebalance will only work for a short time. You will ultimately have to retreat. It also only costs $75/quart which will treat for 30 days. Cheaper in this case is not better. If you trully suspect EPM it's best to go with www.pathogenes.com |
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| I was recommended IV Diclazuril followed by sulfa meds. This was a few years ago so there might be something better on the market now. But I agree that I would not be looking for economical, I would be looking for effective.
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-05-11 9:35 PM
Rebalance will only work for a short time. You will ultimately have to retreat. It also only costs $75/quart which will treat for 30 days. Cheaper in this case is not better. If you trully suspect EPM it's best to go with www.pathogenes.com
Do you have cats at your barn? Just curious. |
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Call pathogenes get ur vet to send blood...200 for a round of orogin 10...worth it's weight in gold for epm treatment...Dr Ellison will answer any and all questions too...i treated with marquis..with rebalance...with diclazuril ..combos of all for 6 months straight because she was severely symptomatic but slowly seemed to get a little better but then would get worse etc..soon as I stopped treating it came back with a vengence..treated with orogin 10..was called Oroquin 10 then because it was still in trial phase...cured. and my mare could barely stand up at her worst. I spent thousands all told close to 10k for 6 months of constant treatment including over a month at my vets initially...but 10 days on orogin 10 for 200 bucks and she was a new horse. Recommended it to a friend and her gelding also recovered fully.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | streakysox - 2015-05-11 9:22 PM
Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also.
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Location: Kentucky | I used Oroquin from Pathogenes.com |
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| I'm not trying to steal the thread, but had a case of EPM and heard back from Pathogenes again. I treated with Orogin, followed up by NeuroQuel, but I felt like that didn't quite kick it. Blood tested her again once she finished treatment and my results for SAG and CRP were 2,2,2. They suggested treating with NeuroQuel again. Has anyone had this happen? Suggestions? |
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Location: Kansas | I used protazil |
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Location: Kentucky | joplin21 - 2015-05-12 9:11 AM I'm not trying to steal the thread, but had a case of EPM and heard back from Pathogenes again. I treated with Orogin, followed up by NeuroQuel, but I felt like that didn't quite kick it. Blood tested her again once she finished treatment and my results for SAG and CRP were 2,2,2. They suggested treating with NeuroQuel again. Has anyone had this happen? Suggestions?
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| No, I just got them back and am planning on it. I'm a little nervous. Last time she talked so fast and was in a hurry I had trouble understanding her. Hopefully we get to the bottom of it. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-11 10:55 PM
streakysox - 2015-05-11 9:22 PM
Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also.
Do you live in a area that EMP is a problem?
Yes, I have been dealing with EPM since 1992. At that time, there was no treatment. We used a medicine for people that is still in use today along with SMZ's. It is in Rebalance--pyrimethamine along with a sulfa drug. I had a good vet at the time and she researched until she found what what she thought was best. That horse lived for 8 years after treating. He was put down due to old age. Since it is still being used today, I would say that would be an indication that it is one of the better drugs for EPM. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | streakysox - 2015-05-12 8:24 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-11 10:55 PM streakysox - 2015-05-11 9:22 PM Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also. Do you live in a area that EMP is a problem? Yes, I have been dealing with EPM since 1992. At that time, there was no treatment. We used a medicine for people that is still in use today along with SMZ's. It is in Rebalance--pyrimethamine along with a sulfa drug. I had a good vet at the time and she researched until she found what what she thought was best. That horse lived for 8 years after treating. He was put down due to old age. Since it is still being used today, I would say that would be an indication that it is one of the better drugs for EPM.
I was wondering if you had problems with EPM, I remember you responding to other posts about EPM and you really sound like you know your stuff about treatments of it. Glad that you had a vet that researched for you to find the best way to deal with it.  |
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Location: Beggs, OK | streakysox - 2015-05-11 10:33 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-05-11 9:35 PM Rebalance will only work for a short time. You will ultimately have to retreat. It also only costs $75/quart which will treat for 30 days. Cheaper in this case is not better. If you trully suspect EPM it's best to go with www.pathogenes.com Do you have cats at your barn? Just curious.
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Location: Beggs, OK | joplin21 - 2015-05-12 8:11 AM I'm not trying to steal the thread, but had a case of EPM and heard back from Pathogenes again. I treated with Orogin, followed up by NeuroQuel, but I felt like that didn't quite kick it. Blood tested her again once she finished treatment and my results for SAG and CRP were 2,2,2. They suggested treating with NeuroQuel again. Has anyone had this happen? Suggestions?
You can be seeing inflammation from other sources. Try adding a good quality prebiotic/probiotic to your feeding plan. Digestive issues are not always evident can cause problems throughout the horses system. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-12 10:42 AM
streakysox - 2015-05-12 8:24 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-11 10:55 PM streakysox - 2015-05-11 9:22 PM Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also. Do you live in a area that EMP is a problem? Yes, I have been dealing with EPM since 1992. At that time, there was no treatment. We used a medicine for people that is still in use today along with SMZ's. It is in Rebalance--pyrimethamine along with a sulfa drug. I had a good vet at the time and she researched until she found what what she thought was best. That horse lived for 8 years after treating. He was put down due to old age. Since it is still being used today, I would say that would be an indication that it is one of the better drugs for EPM.
My vet was the BEST and the smartest. She went to New Zealand to learn to DNA type horses. She was the first person in the Western Hemisphere to do the DNA on horses. She got so wrapped up in DNA work that she gave up her vet practice and started doing crime scenes etc. She was doing DNA work back before OJ was on trial. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | streakysox - 2015-05-12 10:56 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-12 10:42 AM streakysox - 2015-05-12 8:24 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-11 10:55 PM streakysox - 2015-05-11 9:22 PM Forget the natural treatments---they do not work and can be expensive. I use Baycox which runs about $300 or Rebalance which runs about $170. I get good results with these and this is what my trainer uses also. Do you live in a area that EMP is a problem? Yes, I have been dealing with EPM since 1992. At that time, there was no treatment. We used a medicine for people that is still in use today along with SMZ's. It is in Rebalance--pyrimethamine along with a sulfa drug. I had a good vet at the time and she researched until she found what what she thought was best. That horse lived for 8 years after treating. He was put down due to old age. Since it is still being used today, I would say that would be an indication that it is one of the better drugs for EPM. My vet was the BEST and the smartest. She went to New Zealand to learn to DNA type horses. She was the first person in the Western Hemisphere to do the DNA on horses. She got so wrapped up in DNA work that she gave up her vet practice and started doing crime scenes etc. She was doing DNA work back before OJ was on trial.
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Marquis and then THE EPM. After this they can put it in a blend for you in either the performance or muscle mass. You can have them make an extra strength blend too. I would give them a call. Super knowledgable. |
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| Immune, Neuro , Digestive Ulr, Worm Detox. These are herbal. Even if you are treating with the traditional meds. You still need an immune builder. |
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