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Location: NE TX | I haven't been to many NBHA's but I know most barrel races I go to they are 4D (1/2, 1/2, 1) or 5D (1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1/2) but the NBHA I just went to paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2. Has anyone else heard of this payout being mandatory for NBHA cause I hadn't and when I heard thre placings I went to ask and that's what they said their rules were. Never heard or seen that, am I crazy? |
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| Seems weird to me but im not saying its wrong, I have no idea. |
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Location: In my own little world | It might be "their" rule but it didn't follow nbha payout rule. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | bump! Come on you NBHA'rs, is it half, half,half, half for a 5D (commomn in TX),or half, half, whole, half, as was paid out tonight?? Anybody got a rule book?? I've never seen a 5D paid that way! Just trying to figure out if they do indeeed know what they ar doing... |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | ropenrun - 2015-05-15 11:52 PM It might be "their" rule but it didn't follow nbha payout rule.
well, I thought you had to follow NBHA rule book, not make up your own set of payout!!!! |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | o. Okay, it could be a semantic conversation...1/2, 1/2, 1 ... ?eaning the 1 is a full second off the fast time, not off the previous time.then back to 1/2. Im betting it is correst.but worded wrong. |
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Extreme Veteran
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Location: NE TX | The way it was payed out was 1D of course was winning time, in this case a 16.8 and then 1/2 sec off that won 2D which was a 17.3, then 1/2 sec off that won 3D which was a 17.8, then a whole second off that won the 4D which was an 18.8 then 1/2 sec off that won the 5D. I thought the whole point of a 5D was to not have it more equal so there's not a large gap between 3 & 4? Correct me if I'm wrong... |
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Location: California | Flamin10 - 2015-05-15 11:31 PM
The way it was payed out was 1D of course was winning time, in this case a 16.8 and then 1/2 sec off that won 2D which was a 17.3, then 1/2 sec off that won 3D which was a 17.8, then a whole second off that won the 4D which was an 18.8 then 1/2 sec off that won the 5D. I thought the whole point of a 5D was to not have it more equal so there's not a large gap between 3 & 4? Correct me if I'm wrong...
If a 16.80 won it the splits should be:
1D. 16.80
2D. 17.30
3D. 17.80
4D. 18.30
5D. 18.80 |
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  A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Calibarrelrcr - 2015-05-16 2:44 AM
Flamin10 - 2015-05-15 11:31 PM
The way it was payed out was 1D of course was winning time, in this case a 16.8 and then 1/2 sec off that won 2D which was a 17.3, then 1/2 sec off that won 3D which was a 17.8, then a whole second off that won the 4D which was an 18.8 then 1/2 sec off that won the 5D. I thought the whole point of a 5D was to not have it more equal so there's not a large gap between 3 & 4? Correct me if I'm wrong...
If a 16.80 won it the splits should be:
1D. 16.80
2D. 17.30
3D. 17.80
4D. 18.30
5D. 18.80
^^ this is correct. The last division is still 2 seconds off the fast time. The 4D in a 5D is 1.5 seconds off the fast time. It splits up the 3D in a traditional 4D format (1/2, 1/2, 1) |
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Location: Always on call..... | I'm not sure I've ever been to a 5D NBHA before. The 4D splits are 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, 1. So the 4D is two seconds off, not 1.5 seconds like every where else.
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | I would say the show secretary didn't know the rules or was completely confused to the accurate payout format and therefore your payout was messed up. sorry |
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I'm Over It!!
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| Without seeing the actual list of the times run, we have no idea if the placings didn't just work out that way. People really should not be commenting without knowing all the factors. |
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Extreme Veteran
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Location: NE TX | That's what I thought, thank you. I was just checking to make sure I wasn't crazy. I ran an 18.4 and thought I would've placed in the 4D and when they called out the placings I was thoroughly confused.
Melaself: I did go look at their sheet and ask why it was done that way she said that was what the rules said and what they had to go by. I looked at the rules and didn't see anything about how D's were done so I figured I would ask BHW for help in clarifying if I was crazy or not. |
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Benefit BB
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Location: Kansas/Oklahoma | Contact NBHA main office in georgia |
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Location: In my own little world | You are correct. If you were a .4 you should have been in the 4D of a correctly figured 5D NBHA race. I would contact the District NBHA Director as your starting point. Or she should actually catch it when the results come in to her/him. Perhaps NBHA was not the prime sanctioning association? That would be another question to ask. If the Dist director is of no help, then contact your state director, then up the chain of command. |
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| Calibarrelrcr - 2015-05-16 1:44 AM
Flamin10 - 2015-05-15 11:31 PM
The way it was payed out was 1D of course was winning time, in this case a 16.8 and then 1/2 sec off that won 2D which was a 17.3, then 1/2 sec off that won 3D which was a 17.8, then a whole second off that won the 4D which was an 18.8 then 1/2 sec off that won the 5D. I thought the whole point of a 5D was to not have it more equal so there's not a large gap between 3 & 4? Correct me if I'm wrong...
If a 16.80 won it the splits should be:
1D. 16.80
2D. 17.30
3D. 17.80
4D. 18.30
5D. 18.80
Any chance this was a BRN4D run, as if I remember correctly this is how they ran their finals when I went there 10 yrs ago |
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Location: NE TX | ropenrun: It was an NBHA joint show between two NBHA districts so yes it was an NBHA SHOW. The director was the one that told me that the payout they used was the one they were supposed to use as per the rule book. I had never heard of any show being like that which is why I was asking for clarification since I couldn't get he rule book to come up on my phone.
Thank you for all of your input I WILL be calling Augusta in the morning for clarification. |
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Location: Missouri | I am not an NBHA member but I just went to thier website - member info- rules and in section C points earned they did payoff incorrect. Good luck, mistakes happen but if you questioned it then others did too! The secretary should have looked up the rule while you were there so you all could look together! |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I just went to the NBHA site and I didn't see anywhere where they state the actual time splits for the 4 or 5-D. They did for the 3-D. It's pretty easy to figure out what the secretary did..she added a 1/2 second at the end instead of between the 3rd and 4th division. LOL NBHA needs to clarify in their rules. |
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